Would it not be a good idea to wait on P&F for Dino Entertainment?
It might. They do automatically critically succeed on all Big Idea-able Stewardship projects they pass, even if they cause the DC to raise by 20, and we just got the yearly income so we'll have to wait a while for any Income adjustments to come in handy, but Roddy can also get the Dino Entertainment action done and has an applicable trait that gives him an additional 20.Would it not be a good idea to wait on P&F for Dino Entertainment?
Would it not be a good idea to wait on P&F for Dino Entertainment?
They're better used on SPLIT/SECOND, since that has a slightly lower DC. And I want one turn of them being free, so we can use them on some other thing, perhaps.It might. They do automatically critically succeed on all Big Idea-able Stewardship projects they pass, even if they cause the DC to raise by 20, and we just got the yearly income so we'll have to wait a while for any Income adjustments to come in handy, but Roddy can also get the Dino Entertainment action done and has an applicable trait that gives him an additional 20.
It is difficult for me to imagine an action more fitting for Phineas and Ferb than a dinosaur theme park.And I want one turn of them being free, so we can use them on some other thing, perhaps.
Oi!So It's Janna's Bogus Journey in 1st with 15. Recovery: Revised in 2nd with 10, and in Third? Dinosaur King with 6.
Adhoc vote count started by Stratagemini on Feb 23, 2021 at 4:59 PM, finished with 285 posts and 38 votes.
[X] Plan: Janna's Training Montage and a Few Other Things
-[X] National Actions:
—[X][Martial] Upgrade Norm Prime (Wendy Wower) (CoS: 36%, 46% w/ XP)
—[X][Diplomacy] Form a Research Agreement with the Zaibatzu (Goofy) (CoS: 46%, 56% w/ XP)
—[X][Diplomacy] Try to Collaborate with Olympia on an Issue (Mirage) (CoS: 65%, 75% w/ XP
—[X][Stewardship] Restore DoofOS Security (Alan Bradley) (CoS: 34%, 44% w/ XP)
—[X][Stewardship] Dinosaur Entertainment (Roddy Blair) (CoS: 82%, 92% w/ XP)
—[X][Intrigue] Investigate the Death of Alonso Hawk (Russ) (CoS: 51%, 61% w/ XP)
—[X][Intrigue] Investigate Orton Mahlson (Tobe) (CoS: 38%, 48% w/ XP)
—[X][Learning] Large Herbivore Domestication (Janus Lee) (CoS: 74%, 84% w/ XP)
—[X][Learning] Study the SHV 20905 Plans (Wasabi) (CoS: 71%, 81% w/ XP)
—[X][Occult] Study Dance Magic (Juniper) (CoS: ???, but probably quite high)
-[X] Nemesis Actions:
—[X] Get a restraining order
-[X] Personal Actions:
—[X] Doofenshmirtz
—-[X] Tinker with your Inators
—-[X] Chat with the Bossman (Alan Bradley)
—-[X] Clean out Your Rolodex
—-[X] Hire the Dickens Detective Agency (Large)
——[X] Spy on your employees
—[X] Study science and technology (Genghis Khan)
—[X] Personally oversee ACME product testing (Wile E. Coyote)
—[X] Reorganize OWCA (Major Monogram)
—[X] Try to become a Real Boy (Norm)
—[X] Train (Hego)
—[X] Psychoanalyze (TECHNOR)
—-[X] LOVE MUFFIN
—[X] Retake the SAT (Vanessa)
—[X] Study magic with Feldrake (Janna)
—[X] Study odd scrolls (Jumba)
—[X] Repair the Martian Robot (Ludivine von Drake)
—[X] Hang out with Janna (Queen Lizzie)
—[X] Train Janna (Kitsune)
—[X] Search for Star (Tom)
—[X] Search for Star (Marco)
—[X] Study the Mad Mojo Cookbook (Malifishmertz)
-[X] LOVE MUFFIN:
—[X] Perform Mad SCIENCE!
-[X] Don't Overclock Technor
-[X] Activate an Inator
-[X] Item Assignments:
—[X] Ruby Wings
—-[X] Hego
—[X] Jī Talisman
--[X] : Agent Russ
—[X] Yáng Talisman-Dream
[X] Plan: Recovery: Revised
-[X] National Actions:
--[X][Martial] Assault a rival (Mark Beaks, Infiltrate his company and sabotage him with pranks!) (Kitsune) (+49) (DC 100, CoS 60% w/ XP)
--[X][Diplomacy] Open diplomatic channels with the US Government (Goofy) (61% w/ XP)
--[X][Diplomacy] Form a Research Agreement with the Olympia (Mirage) (90% w/ XP)
--[X][Stewardship] Restore DoofOS Security (Alan Bradley) (49% w/ XP)
--[X][Stewardship] Dinosaur Entertainment (Janus Lee) (79% w/ XP)
--[X][Intrigue] Investigate the Death of Alonso Hawk (Agent Russ) (66% w/ XP)
--[X][Intrigue] Investigate the San Fransokyo Cult (Queen Lizzie) (+36)
--[X][Learning] Study the SHV 20905 Plans (Wasabi) (99% w/ XP)
--[X][Learning] Research Silphium (Dr. Jumba Jookiba) (CoS: 99%, 99% w/ XP)
--[X][Occult] Study Dance Magic (Juniper) (+19)
--[X][Learning] Perform Mad Science (L.O.V.E.M.U.F.F.I.N.) (+50)
--[X][Intrigue] Spy on your employees (Dickens Detective Agency (Large))
-[X] Personal Actions:
--[X] Doof:
---[X] Start writing a musical (91/200)
---[X] Tinker with your Inators
---[X] Do some introspection about Norm
---[X] Hire the Dickens Detective Agency (Large)
--[X] Major Francis Monogram (Reorganize OWCA (150/250))
--[X] Wile E. Coyote, Genius (Set up a trap)
--[X] Genghis Khan (Study science and technology (64/200))
--[X] Norm Prime (End your obsession with platypodes)
--[X] Hego (Train)
--[X] TECHNOR (Psychoanalyze: L.O.V.E.M.U.F.F.I.N.)
--[X] Vanessa (Get involved at school)
--[X] Janna Ordonia (Study the Manual of Witchcraft and Alchemy)
--[X] Tobe and the Vagabond Ninja (Study the Mad Mojo Cookbook)
--[X] Tom Lucitor (Rule the Underworld (0/3))
--[X] Malifishmertz (Tend your goozim menagerie)
--[X] Marco Diaz (Train with the Vagabonds)
--[X] Wendy Wower (Upload more on Buzztube)
--[X] Roddy Blair (Design a Lair for Janna)
--[X] Ludivine (Instruct your Coworkers: LOVEMUFFIN)
-[X] Item Assignments:
--[X] Ruby Wings: Kitsune
--[X] Jī Talisman: Agent Russ
--[X] Amur: Janna
--[X] Potion of Fire Breath: Kitsune
--[X] Yáng Talisman-Dream: Agent Russ
--[X] : Agent Russ
-[X] Quests:
-[X] Nemesis:
--[X] Max: Hit the Gym (Personal)
-[X] Miscellaneous:
--[X] Don't Overclock TECHNOR
--[X] Activate an Inator
[X] Plan: Dinosaur King Is What You Wanna Be (Yeah!)
-[X] National Actions:
--[X][Martial] Assault a rival (Mark Beaks, leave it to Kitsune's professional artistic tastes on what to do so long as it inconveniences Beaks. And that it won't be connected back to us.) (Kitsune) (CoS: ???(base 100)+49)
--[X][Diplomacy] Try to Collaborate With Olympia on an Issue (TECHNOR) (CoS: ???+38)
--[X][Diplomacy] Open diplomatic channels with the US Government (Goofy) (CoS: 46%, 56% w/ XP)
--[X][Stewardship] Restore DoofOS Security (Alan Bradley) (CoS: 34%, 44% w/ XP)
--[X][Stewardship] Dinosaur Entertainment (Roddy Blair, King of Lairs) (CoS: 82%, 92% w/ XP)
--[X][Intrigue] Investigate the Death of Alonso Hawk (Agent Russ) (CoS: 51%, 61% w/ XP)
--[X][Intrigue] Infiltrate a Hotspot: New York (Mirage) (CoS: 48%, 58% w/ XP)
--[X][Learning] Large Herbivore Domestication (Janus Lee) (CoS: 74%, 84% w/ XP)
--[X][Learning] Study the SHV 20905 Plans (Wasabi) (CoS: 71%, 81% w/ XP)
--[X][Learning] Research exotic vehicles (L.O.V.E.M.U.F.F.I.N.) (CoS: 66%, 76% w/ XP)
--[X][Occult] Study Dance Magic (Juniper) (CoS: ???+19)
-[X] Personal Actions:
--[X] Doof:
---[X] Tinker with your Inators
---[X] Clean out Your Rolodex
---[X] Chat with the Bossman: Alan Bradley
---[X] Activate Automatic Potion Brewer
--[X] Major Francis Monogram (Reorganize OWCA (189/250))
--[X] Wile E. Coyote, Genius (Set up a trap)
--[X] Genghis Khan (Study science and technology (107/200))
--[X] Norm Prime (End your obsession with platypodes)
--[X] Hego (Train)
--[X] Vanessa (Retake the SAT)
--[X] Janna Ordonia (Study the Manual of Witchcraft and Alchemy)
--[X] Dr. Jumba Jookiba (Study odd scrolls)
--[X] Ludivine von Drake (Repair the Martian Robot)
--[X] Queen Lizzie (Work on excavation tech)
--[X] Tobe and the Vagabond Ninja (Train with Maui Mallard)
--[X] Wendy Wower (Study Kronos AI)
--[X] Tom Lucitor (Rule the Underworld)
--[X] Malifishmertz (Study the Mad Mojo Cookbook)
--[X] Marco Diaz (Train with Macbeth)
-[X] Nemesis Actions:
--[X] Max (Hit the gym)
-[X] Item Assignments:
--[X] Ruby Wings: Agent Russ
--[X] Jī Talisman: Agent Russ
--[X] Potion of Fire Breath: Kitsune
-[X] Miscellaneous:
--[X] Don't Overclock TECHNOR
--[X] Activate an Inator
[X] Plan: I Got Friends On The Other Side
-[X] Martial: Assault a Rival (Kitsune)
--[X] Mark Beaks
---[X] Send Kitsune to torment the poor guy. That's what cats do, right? Torment birds? Yielding to Kitsune's artistic genius of course, but I was thinking something like Nightmare at 20,000 Feet with Kitsune taking the time to slowly drive Beaks into insanity.
-[X] Diplomacy: Open Diplomatic Channels with the US Government (Goofy) 46% chance of success
-[X] Diplomacy (Write-in): Reach out to Dougal La Mancha about sponsoring a bid for mayoral candidacy (Mirage)
-[X] Stewardship: Restore DoofOS Security (Alan Bradley) 35% chance of success
-[X] Stewardship: Dino Entertainment (Roddy Blair) - this assumes it counts as large construction 88% chance of success
-[X] Intrigue: Investigate the Death of Alonso Hawk (Agent Russ) 55% chance of success
-[X] Intrigue: Investigate Hotspot (Tobe) 59% chance of success
--[X]Florida
-[X] Learning: Decode Odd Transmissions (Ludivine Von Drake)
-[X] Learning: Research Shiva Laser (Queen Lizzy)
-[X] Occult: Search for Magical Individuals USING NECROMANCY! (Tom Lucitor) - I'm super excited about this one 58% chance of success
-[X] Nemesis Action: Hit the gym
-[X] Personal Attention
--[X] Restore DoofOS Security
-[X] Chat with Bossman
--[X] Alan Bradley
-[X] Study Science and Technology
-[X] Look through ACME Records
-[X] Reorganize OWCA
-[X] Try to Become a Real Boy
-[X] Train
-[X] Build Giant Robot Legs
-[X] Watch the Eggheads
-[X] Study the Manual of Witchcraft and Alchemy
-[X] Experiment! (Honestly, I just really want to see what this does)
-[X] Offer Beginner Science Lessons
-[X] Get to know Co-Workers
-[X] Obsessively Check San Fransokyo Cape News
-[X] Train with Macbeth
-[X] Study the Mad Mojo Cookbook
-[X] Meet your co-workers
-[X] Research Interdimensional Travel
-[X] Don't
-[X] Yes
[X] Plan: Branching Out and Poking Around
-[X] National
--[X][Martial] Assault a Rival (Kitsune)
---[X] Mark Beaks
----[X] Severely inconvenience in dozens of different and crazy ways, maybe steal some of his stuff?
--[X][Diplomacy] Form a Research Agreement with Olympia (Mirage)
--[X][Diplomacy] Form a Research Agreement with Xanatos (Goofy)
--[X][Stewardship] Restore DoofOS Security (Alan Bradley)
--[X][Stewardship] Dinosaur Entertainment (Roddy Blair)
--[X][Intrigue] Investigate the Death of Alonso Hawk (Agent Russ)
--[X][Intrigue] Investigate a hot spot (Tobe)
---[X] Zootopia
--[X][Learning] Study the SHV 20905 Plans (Wasabi)
--[X][Learning] Decode Odd Transmissions (Wendy Wower)
--[X][Occult] Study Dance Magic (Juniper)
-[X] Personal
--[X] Doof:
---[X] Hire the Dickens Detective Agency (Large)
----[X] Spy on your employees
---[X] Tinker with your Inators
---[X] Clear out your Rolodex
---[X] Chat with the Bossman
----[X] Alan Bradley
--[X] Genghis Khan
---[X] Study Science and Technology
--[X] Wile E. Coyote
---[X] Look through ACME's records
--[X] Francis Monogram
---[X] Reorganize OWCA
--[X] Norm Prime
---[X] Try to become a real boy
—-[X] Hego
---[X] Train
--[X] TECHNOR
---[X] Psychoanalyze: LOVEMUFFIN
--[X] Vanessa
---[X] Retake the SAT
--[X] Janna
--- [X] Study the Manual of Witchcraft and Alchemy
--[X] Dr. Jumba Jookiba
---[X] Talk with fellow evil scientists
--[X] Ludivine von Drake
---[X] Repair the Martian Robot
--[X] Queen Lizzy
---[X] Build backup tunnels
--[X] Janus Lee
---[X] Work on Personal Projects
--[X] Tom Lucitor
---[X] Rule the Underworld
--[X] Marco Diaz
---[X] Train with Macbeth
--[X] Malifishmirtz
---[X] Study the Mad Mojo Cookbook
-[X] Nemesis:
--[X] Max (Personal)
---[X] Hit the Gym
-[X] Items
--[X] Potion of Fire Breath: Kitsune
--[X] Ruby Wings: Agent Russ
-[X] Miscellaneous:
—-[X] LOVE MUFFIN
---[X] Research extradimensional tech
--[X] Activate an Inator
--[X] Don't Overclock TECHNOR
[X] Plan: Think About The Future
-[X] Choose any known King or Prince to attack
--[X] Mark Beaks (Kitsune) - Put a curse of bad fortune onto Beaks.
-[X] Try to Collaborate With Shego on an Issue (Janus Lee)
--[X] On the Drug Trade
-[X] Try to Collaborate with Olympia on an Issue (Mirage)
-[X][Stewardship] Restore DoofOS Security (Alan Bradley)
-[X][Stewardship] Dinosaur Entertainment (Roddy Blair)
-[X][Intrigue] Investigate the Death of Alonso Hawk (Russ)
-[X] Spy on your employees (Dickens Detective Agency)
-[X] Infiltrate a Hotspot (Tobe and the Vagabond Ninga)
--[X] Zootoopia
-[X] Decode Odd Transmissions (Ludivine)
-[X][Learning] Study the SHV 20905 Plans (Wasabi)
-[X] Dance Magic (Juniper)
—[X] Get a restraining order
-[X] Chat with the Bossman
--[X] Alan Bradley
-[X] Tinker with your Inators
-[X] Brew a Potion
-[X] Hire the Dickens Detective Agency (Large)
-[X] Finish your degree online
-[X] Get an apartment
-[X] Set up a trap
-[X] Reorganize OWCA
-[X] Try to Become a Real Boy
-[X] Psychoanalyze
—-[X] LOVE MUFFIN
-[X] Study magic with Feldrake
-[X] Train
-[X] Retake the SAT
-[X] Study odd scrolls
-[X] Work on excavation tech
-[X] Study a Robot
--[X] Norm Prime
-[X] Rule the Underworld
-[X] Train with Macbeth
-[X] Study the Mad Mojo Cookbook
-[X] Work on an extra action?
--[X] Continue the Doofenshmirtz Evil Space Program (LOVEMUFFIN)
-[X] Don't Overclock Technor
-[X] Activate an Inator
-[X] Kitsune
[X] Plan: Personal Actions Relinquished Over Neurotic Obsession In Death
-[X] National Actions:
--[X] Upgrade Normbots to current standard (Wendy Wower)
--[X] Reach out to Shere Khan (Goofy)
--[X] Try to Collaborate With Olympia on an Issue (Mirage)
--[X][Stewardship] Restore DoofOS Security (Alan Bradley)
--[X] Dinosaur Entertainment (Roddy Blair, King of Lairs)
--[X][Intrigue] Investigate the Death of Alonso Hawk (Agent Russ)
--[X] Infiltrate a Hotspot: New York (Tobe and the Vagabond Ninja)
--[X] Research exotic vehicles (Janus Lee)
--[X] Research Extradimensional Tech (Wasabi)
--[X][Occult] Study Dance Magic (Juniper)
--[X] Study the SHV 20905 Plans (L.O.V.E.M.U.F.F.I.N.)
-[X] Nemesis Actions:
--[X] Hit the gym
-[X] Personal Actions:
--[X] Doof:
---[X] Personal Attention: Investigate the Death of Alonso Hawk
---[X] Brew a Potion
--[X] Major Francis Monogram (Reorganize OWCA (189/250))
--[X] Wile E. Coyote, Genius (Early Access Dummy: Study the SHV 20905 Plans)
--[X] Genghis Khan (Study science and technology (107/200))
--[X] Norm Prime (Try to become a Real Boy)
--[X] Hego (Train)
--[X] TECHNOR (Build giant robot arms)
--[X] Vanessa (Learn Capeiora)
--[X] Janna Ordonia (Study magic with Feldrake)
--[X] Dr. Jumba Jookiba (Study odd scrolls)
--[X] Ludivine von Drake (Repair the Martian Robot)
--[X] Queen Lizzie (Work on excavation tech)
--[X] Kitsune (Spread Chaos)
--[X] Tom Lucitor (Search for Star)
--[X] Marco Diaz (Search for Star)
--[X] Malifishmertz (Study the Mad Mojo Cookbook)
-[X] Item Assignments:
--[X] Jī Talisman: Agent Russ
-[X] Miscellaneous:
--[X] Don't Overclock TECHNOR
--[X] Activate an Inator
What are the odds of success for this? Because Juniper has an Occult score of nothing, so even with a +15, that's not actually very impressive. We should probably get her a crash course in Occult first.
We want Norm upgraded mostly for character development reasons, right? If so, I'm in favor of dropping the weapons.Oi!
Also, I'm debating dropping the Energy Weaponry from Norm's upgrades to reduce the DC by 10, as MiH has confirmed would work. Does that seem like a good idea? I want to know if people think that's a good trade off.
I've been pushing for Dino Entertainment for about five turns now. I'm not particularly in the mood to wait any longer. Additionally, y'all need income to keep buying Dicken's Detective services (and other things), and Dino Entertainment is a potentially great source of income for a low DC.I think Split/Second and Dino Entertainment are perfect for P&F, so why not put them off to wait for them and focus on some of our other options?
There are some low-hanging fruit that have been around for a while, and at the very least the hero roster increase is a good idea since we're nearly at the cap.
Since, in all honesty, it seems like your plan is falling behind, would you be willing to switch to mine, as the one that does have the dinosaurs?I've been pushing for Dino Entertainment for about five turns now. I'm not particularly in the mood to wait any longer. Additionally, y'all need income to keep buying Dicken's Detective services (and other things), and Dino Entertainment is a potentially great source of income for a low DC.
Ah, a captain goes down with his ship.Since, in all honesty, it seems like your plan is falling behind, would you be willing to switch to mine, as the one that does have the dinosaurs?
Thing is, LOVEMUFFIN hated having their work stolen, but that's not the same as working on something else. We can assign them to something else that seems promising, then put them back on space afterwards, and I really don't think they'll be annoyed at all as long as they like the new assignment. It might be a good idea to research sublight drives (not necessarily with LOVEMUFFIN) before putting them back on space, as I highly doubt that reverse engineering a spaceship's propulsion won't lower the DC for improving our space program.As others have mentioned, LOVEMUFFIN hated having their work stolen. Taking them off of the Space Program, even with no chance for them to succeed, is not a good idea in my view. Sure, we could have them come back to it normally, but with their loyalty at the moment, I don't want them to get angrier.
We also need to strike at Mark Beaks in some way this turn, and Kitsune is the best to do so. Goblin Fox is active, and letting her strike at Beaks will satisfy her, and keep Doof relatively in character.
Finally, small thing that no one seems to be taking advantage of: we can use Ludivine von Drake to improve our Hero units. She can make bad Heroes good, and good units a little better. LOVEMUFFIN is a prime target, considering they are used EVERY turn. She might also be useful to improve Doof himself, if we get the chance, since his Stats are applied to ALL of our choices, but LOVEMUFFIN is much more urgent. It also might get them actually able to complete their assigned important tasks, and we'd be less wary of tossing them those important tasks. Granted, we are having TECHNOR look at LOVEMUFFIN this turn, so it might be wise to wait for the examination to be completed first, but that doesn't mean we can't have Ludivine von Drake improve someone else.
Was it that high? I vaguely remember thinking at the time that it wasn't a particularly impressive roll. In any case, I imagine the difficulty of the roll depends on the loyalty of the hero unit being taught, so now is probably not a good time, but it might be worth revisiting if we manage to bring their loyalty up and/or Technor's sessions prove productive.We have seen the results of this before actually. MiH accidentally gave us the results of us rolling a 75 or something on Ludivine instructing LOVEMUFFIN.
It gave them one Learning.
She'd have to roll fairly well for them to not be offended by it.
We need a solution. Constantly guessing at what they'll like, and hoping they'll like it enough not to hold yet another permanent grudge towards us, has not proven to be a sustainable plan. We have never tried assigning Technor to LOVEMUFFIN, so the likelihood of them taking offense is pure speculation. If LOVEMUFFIN does take offense at Technor's psychoanalyzing, then it'll be a drop in the bucket. Technor is the best option we've got.Considering that the GM rolls real dice and the fact it could go either way, yeah, that's what I'm worried about.
It doesn't matter if he's a maniacal supervillain, he's not part of LOVEMUFFIN. Anyone who so much as gives them a negative/helpful comment, with the intent to improve them, they'll take it personally because they think they are the best and everyone else can suck a rotten egg. Therapy ain't gonna help with that.
And even if TECHNOR (or anyone else for that matter) was part of LOVEMUFFIN and he gave them negative/helpful comment to improve, they'd kick him out of faster than you can say Perry the Platypus. (May he Rest in Peace)
Cybugs, Beaks doesn't know about the GridRemind me: it was Mark Beaks that turned out to be attacking DoofOS, right?
Well, there are a few reasons. First off, I don't want to try for something which does harm on a failure. The consequences for a normal failure on an intrigue action can vary wildly. If we failed on Spy on Employees, we could take a loyalty hit. If we failed on infiltrating a hotspot, we could get in a bit of trouble (except for NY, that's likely fine). And I really wouldn't want to risk Oregon or Florida.One thing I'm curious about with the leading vote is why the Orton Mahlson vote?
It seems like pretty low odds for something that doesn't seem to apply to any of our current issues; I mean there are other investigation options with lower DCs or the much more relevant to us spy on employees action is only 5 more
It wasn't, as nwish said it was the cybugs. Tron identified the attackers as cybugs in Interlude: 511.Remind me: it was Mark Beaks that turned out to be attacking DoofOS, right?
The Cybugs had attacked when Tron was out of system. This had left the system Kernel to rally the remaining antivirus against the invasion, a task it had not been built for. The Cybugs had cut deep, and opportunists had leapt.
Also, I'm debating dropping the Energy Weaponry from Norm's upgrades to reduce the DC by 10, as MiH has confirmed would work. Does that seem like a good idea? I want to know if people think that's a good trade off.
While it's true that we need Income in order to continue hiring the Dickens, we just got our yearly income change. Even if we did Dino Entertainment this turn, we'd have to wait another 6 turns before we got the benefits of any Income increases it provides.I've been pushing for Dino Entertainment for about five turns now. I'm not particularly in the mood to wait any longer. Additionally, y'all need income to keep buying Dicken's Detective services (and other things), and Dino Entertainment is a potentially great source of income for a low DC.