We have a force that can police the magical citizens of our society.

We call it "the police."

If we're committed to the idea that these people are not, truly, deep down, any different than the rest of us, then we don't need a specialized government and/or private company appointed task force to hunt them down.
The common public don't have freaky magic/super powers/alien technology/cartoon physics. You can recognize that they are people while also recognizing that they have different capabilities and needs. They will need police with specialized expertise.
 
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We have a force that can police the magical citizens of our society.

We call it "the police."

If we're committed to the idea that these people are not, truly, deep down, any different than the rest of us, then we don't need a specialized government and/or private company appointed task force to hunt them down.

you do realize that the cops probably can't handle people who can benchpress dump trucks screw with minds,fire lazer beams from their eyes and all sorts of other bullshit. For those whom have no idea how it works magic is essentially unstoppable. Especially for civilian law enforcement whom don't have either of the expertise the resources or the fire power to even begin to try and police magical creatures.

for example how do you suppose a cop can catch say a vampire? Who is immune to their bullets and with their various methods of esoteric movements and attackit's damn near impossible to track or fight with purely mundane means.
 
Yes, your responses are.
I was more thinking that no matter what its impossible for her to win even with a artifact controlling all of humanity and such due to narrative reasons. Her winning would have likely very much derailed the quest or well extremely complicated it and still have too defeat her or well its just gameover.
its like how the villain cant actually win except in non-plotbreaking ways like her winning would likely kinda been like doof nearly all hero units and most NPC being lost it would have been too much fighting the gargoyle horde and all of humanity while it goes into ruins.
and well the gargoyls not controlled by her kinda dont like her but like humanity and well puck was involved a living plot device he is a reality warping fairy who whispered the exact thing too do
 
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I mean, Demona still came within a hair's breath of winning. Keep in mind this is after we accidentally killed her recruiting efforts, we warned Xanatos about the prophecy so he was scrambling to get this all set up, and we only showed up here in the first place because we were looking for Marco, meaning we were in position to bail out everyone after Xanatos's last play failed.

Like, could you imagine if we had done none of these things? Demona would have probably had experienced gargoyles behind her rather than the newbie's she had, and Xanatos probably would have been blindsided in at least some capacity with significantly inferior defenses, and his plan of "have Puck do something" would have utterly failed because of the cold iron properties.He almost certainly wouldn't have had the Manhattan Clan behind him. It was probably still likely for us to game over, it just doesn't seem like it because of all the stuff we did before this actually started.
 
I was more thinking that no matter what its impossible for her to win even with a artifact controlling all of humanity and such due to narrative reasons.
If she won then the artefact would probably stop working if Demona actually expanded its area of effect to a large proportion of humanity. Either because of divine intervention or because the crown would run out of juice. The faith invested in its loose symbolism as "The crown of the king of man" and the lance probably isn't powerful enough to deal with billions of people believing they should be free or praying/hoping for a solution.
 
I mean, Demona still came within a hair's breath of winning. Keep in mind this is after we accidentally killed her recruiting efforts, we warned Xanatos about the prophecy so he was scrambling to get this all set up, and we only showed up here in the first place because we were looking for Marco, meaning we were in position to bail out everyone after Xanatos's last play failed.

Like, could you imagine if we had done none of these things? Demona would have probably had experienced gargoyles behind her rather than the newbie's she had, and Xanatos probably would have been blindsided in at least some capacity with significantly inferior defenses, and his plan of "have Puck do something" would have utterly failed because of the cold iron properties.He almost certainly wouldn't have had the Manhattan Clan behind him. It was probably still likely for us to game over, it just doesn't seem like it because of all the stuff we did before this actually started.
But still it was a complete hairs breath triggered by "
Puck combat check: 48+55+20(warned)=123
Demona Contest: 41+35+30+35+44 (Cold Iron)=185
Demona Heavy Success

The first words of a spell off Puck's lips were blown away by the searing blast of the Lance roaring across Puck's form.

Demona combat check: 49+35+30+35+44=193
Puck Contest: 12+55+20=87
Demona Critical Success!"
Like the cold iron probably should have done more beacuse "puck do something" plan actually worked and one must admit demona winning is very close to completly breaking the quest.
If she won then the artefact would probably stop working if Demona actually expanded its area of effect to a large proportion of humanity. Either because of divine intervention or because the crown would run out of juice. The faith invested in its loose symbolism as "The crown of the king of man" and the lance probably isn't powerful enough to deal with billions of people believing they should be free or praying/hoping for a solution.
Did not think of that but is it not backed up by 2000 or well roughly 1900 years of worship bit there is probably something in what you are saying then we only need to deal what is like a area restricted zombie horde that fills itself up from the general population as it moves trying too destroy everything, dont know about divine intervention god seems very much like a non-intervention kinda deity except in the old stuff but like why would he care good people would go to him when they die but its a possibility, hhmmm been a while since i saw a magic weapon that needs recharging great with a comedic effect or when you need to make a longer champain
 
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That of course, if and when the magical masquerade breaks, and we don't know if it has yet. We don't want to jump the gun and piss off our good buddy Xanay now do we? Perhaps we could collaborate with him on that in the future.
Not private, public. It needs to official and legitimate to win the PR battle with the criminal Huntsclan. We can use Russ' and Xanatos' political connections to get it rolling.

Maybe collab with the Feds (while using the connections of both Russ and Xanatos to make sure it goes at least somewhat our way) to make a rapid response department specialized for Magical cases in public as necessary counterpart to a School of Magic and Mysticism (it´s just fact that sometimes, no good education or upbringing will prevent some eggs from going rottenly bad)?

We have a force that can police the magical citizens of our society.

We call it "the police."

If we're committed to the idea that these people are not, truly, deep down, any different than the rest of us, then we don't need a specialized government and/or private company appointed task force to hunt them down.

The common public don't have freaky magic/super powers/alien technology/cartoon physics. You can recognize that they are people while also recognizing that they have different capabilities and needs. They will be police with specialized expertise.

Some sort of team with special weapons and tactics?

Yeah, specialized threats (both *from* and *against* a specific minority, mind you) require specialized response teams.

Regular old Chief Duncan Wynchell (yes, a nod towards two of the Us´most popular donut shop chains) will not last against someone like Negaduck, Demona or the Moleman. People need to know that "the governing forces" got them coverning in some way.
 
That doesn't mean creating an entire separate (but equal) bureaucracy for that minority. It means SWAT teams need cold iron handcuffs and training in improvisational comedy.
Magical creatures are very much a minority even more so with cartoons and they can sometimes be quite easy to identify mostly cartoons but that can be solved with boring cars and leaving the door unlocked
 
We have a force that can police the magical citizens of our society.

We call it "the police."

If we're committed to the idea that these people are not, truly, deep down, any different than the rest of us, then we don't need a specialized government and/or private company appointed task force to hunt them down.
Like, ignoring the material conditions of modern police for a minute, and how much they may or may not actuallly do their jobs, since this is a whole thing I'd rather not get into here, and focusing on ccapabilities: no, they cannot. The police are simply incapable of this. They regularly struggle with unarmed and largely nonviolent civilians, if they're in reasonably large numbers. Expecting them to handle supernatural threats is just folly. Now, Doofania in specific does have Normbots doing the policing, but if we want this to work as a general solution we'd have to scale up production a lot.
 
Eh, gonna weight in on this one. The Police isn't actually a singular body of identically-uniformed people, there are divisions. Police Departments specific to Vice Crimes, Murders, Missing Persons, SVU, etc. And all these divisions are properly equipped to handle their specific jobs (in theory, at least). And when they need bigger guns, they have the SWAT.

So a Police Department: Magic Crimes Unit would have (again, in theory) the equipment and training to handle magical criminals and magic-using crimes (probably supplied by government contracts with us and Xanatos). It's notable that the FBI, the other big internal policing unit, already has an equivalent department that Russ works at.
 
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Eh, gonna weight in on this one. The Police isn't actually a singular body of identically-uniformed people, there are divisions. Police Departments specific to Vice Crimes, Murders, Missing Persons, SVU, etc. And all these divisions are properly equipped to handle their specific jobs (in theory, at least). And when they need bigger guns, they have the SWAT.

So a Police Department: Magic Crimes Unit would have (again, in theory) the equipment and training to handle magical criminals and magic-using crimes (probably supplied by government contracts with us and Xanatos). It's notable that the FBI, the other big internal policing unit, already has an equivalent department that Russ works at.

sure but that would require a massive proliferation of magical knowledge abilities and training. and considering everything that's going on the government can't really afford to majorly overhaul every single police precinct with magical training and equipment.
 
Since it came up in voice chat last night, allow me to share some behind-the-scenes info.

I dropped a joke spoiler on Discord that Xanatos made that crown pedestal out of LEGOs so Demona would step on them, causing her to drop the spear and kill everyone on accident.

The early draft described Coldstone's check to escape as "Swooce on out of there". I know Ara liked it but I requested its removal for the sake of the scene.

We played around with using a lot of different characters in the event but had to cut back extraneous characters. I know it looks like a whirlwind of action but it could have been a lot crazier.
 
sure but that would require a massive proliferation of magical knowledge abilities and training. and considering everything that's going on the government can't really afford to majorly overhaul every single police precinct with magical training and equipment.

Well, considering that a Magical Demasking gets more and more likely atm, a "massive proliferation of magical knowledge, abilities and training" will happen in the public eye regardless - it just depends on whether relatively reasonable people like us and Xanatos or genocidal maniacs like the Huntsmaster (or if he did die just now, his next-in-line) direct the narrative.

Who ever controls the narrative controls what kind of magical police unit takes form and I for one would prefer guys like Russ (who actually gives a fuck about occult minorities, as alluded to previously) staffing the "Magical Crime Response" PD than the likes of the Huntsmaster, you know?
 
Crisis: Twelfth Night- Nones
"is it over?" Tom asked.

Everyone else slowly blinked as their visions swam back into focus. The room was totaled; dust still settling and chunks of debris causing minor cuts across the room. The center of the room was a small crater, with no sign of Demona or her Spear. The Crown lay sundered upon the floor.

"All right," Lizzy said, rubbing a bump on her head. "Sound off; who's not dead?"

Xanatos slowly took the helmet of his armor.

"Spydah, report in. Did that reach the crowd outside?"

"Uuuhhhh…" A voice came back a moment later. "Nah. Or if it did, waddn't enough to make it on dah news coverage."

Xanatos let out a breath.

"Well." he said. "That could have gone considerably worse."

Tom, Marco, Lizzy and Janna all tensed.

"Is there a problem?" Xanatos asked.

"Well it's just…" Janna began. "This is normally the part where things inexplicably get worse."

Xanatos blinked.

"My." Puck coughed. "You mortals certainly live more interesting lives than you once did."

"Guys I… I think we actually lived!" Tom said happily. "Janna, your weird friend saved the day!"

"...yeah." Janna said slowly. "I guess she did."

"I did, didn't I?" Kitsune said, face returned to her usual gentle smile. "I suppose someone does have to rescue you mortals on occasion, do they not?"

"She's going to be absolutely insufferable about this, you know." Puck put his hand on Kitsune's shoulder.

The fox let out a small "eep", and froze in place until Puck moved on.

Janna watched him go, then turned to study Kitsune. After a moment, she seemed to come to a decision. "Hey Kitsune?"

"...yes?"

"Why does Puck get under your skin so bad?"

Kitsune closed her eyes and sighed.

"Because he killed me."

---

The Manhattan Clan were gathered around Brooklyn, doing what they could to staunch his bleeding until the stone sleep could scar over the wound. The eye was clearly ruined; there was no chance of it regaining sight.

"Listen." Brooklyn said, voice steady despite the pain he was in. "I… I'm sorry. Goliath entrusted me to be his successor. I failed him. I failed all of you."

"Rest now." Lexington replied, dabbing at the bleeding with a piece of cloth he'd gotten from somewhere. "The sunrise is almost here."

"I thought I could control Demona. Temper her worse impulses. But all she did was encourage mine. Hudson, I understand if you-"

"You're Clan, lad." Hudson replied. "You'll always be Clan."

"It'll be good to have you back, buddy." Broadway said.

---

Janna watched the gargoyles from across the room, discomfort flitting across her face. Marco, still wincing from the cuts, pulled himself up and sat next to her.

"Wanna talk about it?" He asked.

Janna grimaced.

"They… all those grey gargoyles were people." Janna said. "Sure, Demona messed them up but they're not… not…"

"Monsters?" Marco offered. "As it turns out, Monsters aren't really monsters either. Not most of them."

"There was that time with the witches but, they kept coming back, it wasn't the same! Marco I… I can't even remember how many of them I…"

"Listen." Marco said. "If we hadn't fought, what would have happened?"

"...Demona might have…"

"She almost did." Marco agreed. "Sometimes… sometimes you have to fight. It can be easier, to just… pretend they're not people. Not think about it. But it's better to think. It hurts. But if at the end of the day, you did what you had to… that can be enough."

"What do you think's gonna happen to them?"

"Recent events have given me means of contact with several other Clans across the globe." Xanatos interrupted. "I don't know exactly how far Demona's programming went, but we can at least try to return the survivors to their own people. Brooklyn seeing sense will help with that. They see him as a leader, after all."

Janna sighed in relief, then gave Marco a weak smile. "Thanks for the sappy pep talk, dude."

Marco nodded.

Then, they heard a weak muttering.

"What was that?" Marco asked.

"Bbboyyyyy." The Huntsmaster gasped.

"Oh god, you're still alive."

The Hunstmaster was a wreck. Blood seeped from every hole in his face, his muscles seemingly permanently knotted, his legs clearly broken. But even as his hunters began to lift him up and carry him away, he stared at Marco.

"Surely you know better, boy." The Huntsmaster said. "See how the Demon has marked you. They are monsters. Your power… your potential… I could train you."

"Eeeeh." Marco replied. "I dunno dude, you seem pretty evil."

"You fought well this night." The Huntsmaster insisted. "Do not squander that potential."

"Okay dude, seriously?" Tom asked. "All sorts of people did better than Marco! You're being so racist right now, I can't even believe it. Little chauvunistic, too."

"Yeah!" Marco agreed.

"Seriously." Tom said. "Marco went down like a chump. Demona didn't even need to use the spear!"

"Okay Tom, that's enough. Thanks."

"We gonna like… fight now?" Lizzy asked.

"It'd be better than all this mushy 'morality' stuff!" Feldrake agreed.

"Let's… give it a rest for tonight." Janna replied. "Numbers or not, we don't have a prophecy backing us up anymore."

"Xanatos mentioned that." Marco said. "What was that about?"

"Oh right, I keep forgetting you don't know all this stuff." Janna replied. "I summoned up this dead Mewman queen and she gave me a weird prophecy about tonight."

Janna took a moment to recite it in full, although leaving out the spooky ambiance this time. "...the payment? Hearts set on her…cheeks." Janna trailed off. "Oh crud. That part happens now."

"Janna." Marco said. "Are you saying Demona is… still alive? And she's going after Star?"

Macbeth stepped forward. "She's still alive." He said. "Trust me lad, I would know."

Marco clenched his fists. "So not only did I not find her, but now a second magical lunatic is after her."

"Lad." Macbeth said. "I've fought Demona for… a long time. I know her tricks. I'll not give you the same spiel the hunter did, but if your aim is to fight the Demon, I will teach you what I know. Ye remind me of… someone else."

"Uhhh…" Marco looked around for advice.

Hudson sighed. "Macbeth would lie, steal, cheat and kill… if it meant getting his hands on Demona. In that, at least, ye can trust."

Marco nodded. "...I should probably get to a hospital now."

"Oh yeah dude." Janna agreed. "That's gonna scar."

"Wait, you're right. I bet this'll be a really cool facial scar! Yea-heah! One more step back towards my Neverzone bod."

"Your what?"

"Uhhh… nothing."

---

As several Iron Gargoyles flew into the room and began rounding up the Pack, who objected vociferously to their impending reincarceration, Xanatos walked over to the newly sundered Crown, picking up the pieces gingerly.

"So." Janna asked. "What happens to that now?"

"An artifact is unlikely to survive damage like this." Xanatos replied. "I'll have it examined, but assuming its powers have dissipated I'll have it repaired and returned to Notre Dame. I imagine Mr. Papillon would enjoy the novelty of the challenge."

"...So, do you think it was…"

"The real Crown of Thorns?" Xanatos replied. "Do I think it was truly the power of God, or the power of people's belief? Or just a particularly powerful Magus' cunning fake? I don't know. I don't know if there's anyone alive who could answer that question."

Janna's brow furrowed.

Several heads turned in the same direction at once.

"What!?!" Tom asked. "Why's everybody looking at me?"
 
Well, it looks like everyone who responded to my Prophecy checklist was right: Demona's gone after Star. Star just moved up on our list of priorities. Big time.

Also, does this mean Macbeth has Marco as a hero unit or do we now have semi-good relations with Macbeth that we can eventually turn into making him a hero unit?

The Magical Masquerade still stands! So I'm still a little concerned about which veil fell exactly... The Gargoyles are picking themselves out of the chaos and Brooklyn's ready to fix the damage! Yay! We also finally know exactly why Brooklyn decided to team up with the Queen Bitch in the first place. Noble, lad, yet naïve.

You know why everyone's looking at you, Tom. You know why.

Also, Huntsmaster? Shut up. Please?
 
Because Tom is a demon, well mostly demon. Still lets see about getting Marco to a hospital and trying to find Star fast. Maybe we can use that link with Macbeth to see if we can track her that way.
 
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