...oh shit.

Oh, shit, oh shit, ohshit OHSHIT

So, uh, guys, New York City, or at least a small portion thereof, is about to become a very public battleground for a bunch of Gargoyles. We know this, because of achronological updates on the GM's part. But uh, that's not the real danger here.

That very public battle is almost certainly gonna tear the Masquerade in half like the tabernacle curtain. We know this, vaguely speaking, because of the prophecy we received so very long ago. But, uh, that's not the real danger here.

The real danger here?

Cazador is going to be a part of this extremely public, modern-day magic battle, alongside Janna and Tom and Lizzy. Modern day as in, everyone carries a video camera in their pocket in the form of a phone, modern day. Video camera, as in, recorded footage of Marco Diaz, specifically.

Again, recorded footage of Marco Diaz fighting alongside a known employee of DEI, the "Lord Felldrake" who accompanied Doofenschmirtz to auction, and the Prince of Mewnian Hell, in Xanatos's territory.

Recorded footage that could and will be seen by Toffee, who knows who Marco is.

We could come out of this fight completely unscathed and with the Masquerade still somehow intact, and it wouldn't matter because Toffee would be knocking on our doors, Hell's doors, and Xanatos's doors looking for heart-cheeked princesses. We need to get Marco under glamour or something ASAP.
 
He's referring to the Encantus, I think.

Xanatos has stolen whatever Demona stole from Notre Dame (also insert Cooler video about having called Notre Dame as Demona related). Almost certainly, this is not the Praying Gargoyle, because that thing was hidden in a secret place and wouldn't have needed to be replaced.

Demona obtained half of another artifact from Magica, then stole the other half from Xanatos. The stolen half is the wooden shaft that we saw her steal in the Star interlude, almost certainly. The thing she got from Magica is likely whatever goes at the top of the thing.

Could be a spearhead if it is the Holy Lance or some other magic polearm, could be some magic artifact if it is actually some oversized staff.
 
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The Artemis Fowl talk made me remember something about Disney's impact on pop-culture.
IIRC according to the footnotes in Artemis Fowl canon the stereotypical leprechaun getup is actually a very old version of the LEP Recon uniform. Disneyland is also a popular tourist destination for fairies because with a bit of a dressup they can pass themselves off as humans in costumes.
 
The real danger here?

Cazador is going to be a part of this extremely public, modern-day magic battle, alongside Janna and Tom and Lizzy. Modern day as in, everyone carries a video camera in their pocket in the form of a phone, modern day. Video camera, as in, recorded footage of Marco Diaz, specifically.

Again, recorded footage of Marco Diaz fighting alongside a known employee of DEI, the "Lord Felldrake" who accompanied Doofenschmirtz to auction, and the Prince of Mewnian Hell, in Xanatos's territory.

Recorded footage that could and will be seen by Toffee, who knows who Marco is.

We could come out of this fight completely unscathed and with the Masquerade still somehow intact, and it wouldn't matter because Toffee would be knocking on our doors, Hell's doors, and Xanatos's doors looking for heart-cheeked princesses. We need to get Marco under glamour or something ASAP.
...Not to mention Tom someone who Toffee is, iirc actively fighting a war against. So you'd have more than one person imo needing a glamour.
 
Cazador is going to be a part of this extremely public, modern-day magic battle, alongside Janna and Tom and Lizzy. Modern day as in, everyone carries a video camera in their pocket in the form of a phone, modern day. Video camera, as in, recorded footage of Marco Diaz, specifically
I got the impression that the magical battle is going to take place at night.
 
sigh another bad roll, even if its meaningless.

...What is it with people wanting to curbstomp all Rolls And getting all mopey when our Rivals (*Not* "Enemies" for the Most Part) get Lück for a Bit? Seriously starting to Grind my gears

...Not to mention Tom someone who Toffee is, iirc actively fighting a war against. So you'd have more than one person imo needing a glamour.

Calm down, Guys.

This Battle will BE hectic AS fuck And I dont think that News will (BE allowed to) get into Details enough for sensitive personel Like Marco And Tom to be Features directly for any noticeable amount of time And space

I got the impression that the magical battle is going to take place at night.

That too.

I don't know if kitsune's illusions can disguise other people or not, but if it does, then we just covered that part.

If she decides to finally appears in that Crisis, that is...ATM she is still a no-show
 
Does Toffee even watch tv? does he even have minions who watch tv?

Even if Marco's face gets shown, it might not reach Toffee immediately.
 
I got the impression that the magical battle is going to take place at night.

Streetlamps? Camera flashes? All it would take is a single clip.

Does Toffee even watch tv? does he even have minions who watch tv?

Even if Marco's face gets shown, it might not reach Toffee immediately.

He saw Star was in Doofania in a news report one of his workers apparently sent him, back during the Luck be a Lady Quest. He didn't come down with the wrath of a multidimensional magical murderer back then because there was no indication she was working for us.

Marco fighting alongside our own employees would be different. Even assuming nothing made it into news reports, that still leaves amateur footage on Buzztube,
 
Streetlamps? Camera flashes? All it would take is a single clip.




Marco fighting alongside our own employees would be different. Even assuming nothing made it into news reports, that still leaves amateur footage on Buzztube,

I expect those Clips to get striked "for Copyright infringement/hatespeech" almost immediately by the Likes of Xanatos And/or the NYPD AS a smokescreen to Limit the damage done to the Masquerade
 
...What is it with people wanting to curbstomp all Rolls And getting all mopey when our Rivals (*Not* "Enemies" for the Most Part) get Lück for a Bit? Seriously starting to Grind my gears
Yeah, dudes. I mean, us and Xanatos are technically-allies at this point. Sure, I still don't trust him much, but, in the short-term, his doing good is good for us.
 
Janna hasn't called for backup yet. It's weird that Tom and Lizzy are already here, not that Kitsune isn't.

Pretty sure that this part of "First Night of Christmas" is getting retconned away currently by Janna "now" already having backup, so that there is no in-universe reason for Janna to get as panicky as she was "before"

Yeah, dudes. I mean, us and Xanatos are technically-allies at this point. Sure, I still don't trust him much, but, in the short-term, his doing good is good for us.

If not allies, Doof and David at least silently agreed to only stab each other in the back as a last resort

I really don't think smartphone cameras are going to get decent quality pictures at a distance outside at night. In my experience stuff which is clearly visible to the naked eye can turn into an indistinct mess when photographed.

Yeah, smartphone-sized appliances in general tend to be on the crappy side quality-wise.

One reason why I absolutely refuse to use the Zoom App ( the other reason is that Zoom in general seems to be a hastily-assembled shit piece of software)
 
I don't think the attack will be enough to blow open the Masquerade, mainly because it is obvious that Xanatos has prepared extensively for this. As such he likely has a bunch of people ready to run damage control, probably has the majority of news outlets pre-bribed and since he's already put the Gargoyles out in the public eye as non-magical we can safely say that any of them being caught on camera won't be too much of an issue.
 
The Artemis Fowl talk made me remember something about Disney's impact on pop-culture.

I really hope Artemis's group is aware of the paradoxes because I want to see a LEP officer lament on this film still existing in this mess.
well feldrake himself say that he absolutly don't wan't to rule this mess of paradoxs pretending to be a timeline so i think they may be awars of the nuber of thing that don't make sense
 
We tossed Lizzy, Stanley, and Inquinator into jail. Then, when we decided Lizzy had enough therapy, we took her out of jail to work for us. Inquinator is still there, and will be there until we decide to get rid of him. This is not how judicial systems work.

The Bowl of Mints trait meant that we ruled badly, not that we can't rule if we chose to. In fact, it states the very opposite, because the very fact that we have a trait that (used to) penalize us when ruling over our territory means that we can rule over said territory.
We do not actually have the specifics of that, so that argument does not work. Obviously what you say is not true because MiH said that we have not fucked around with the justice system. Infact, I quoted him saying that in the post you are replying to.

What. MiH also directly said, infact I fucking quoted him right there, that he Bowl of Mints trait meant that we did as little as possible in actual governing. We still do as little as possible actual governing.

Did you even fucking read the comment?
 
We do not actually have the specifics of that, so that argument does not work. Obviously what you say is not true because MiH said that we have not fucked around with the justice system. Infact, I quoted him saying that in the post you are replying to.

What. MiH also directly said, infact I fucking quoted him right there, that he Bowl of Mints trait meant that we did as little as possible in actual governing. We still do as little as possible actual governing.

Did you even fucking read the comment?
Then why is the trait now gone?
 
Then why is the trait now gone?
Because Doof has made up with Rodger and through that personal relationship, Doof can get more things done now. This does not mean that Doof interferes in local politics. Below Doof mentioned that he left the Board of Selectmen alone doing non-mint stuff, until he introduced CJ. We don't have a reason to think that Doof was particularly active after that. Furthermore, we didn't even fucking know that Roger was still mayor. The trait is gone because Roger has agreed to help us with running DEI and help us with government stuff.

"Well I'll tell you. For too long, I've been leaving you alone, to languish doing... whatever it is one does running a city. I gather it does not involve mints, but other than that I… I'm getting off track. The point is, I decided you all needed some upgrading. So, please welcome to your team, a robot designed to do half your jobs for you!"
Also, it… sorta turns out that you never really 'fired' him as mayor back when you did your takeover, since it's an elected position and all. He's just kinda been quietly doing his job (minus the public appearances) ever since. That's a little embarrassing. The good news is that he has agreed to help you in your megacorp duties whenever he can!

Roger Doofenshmirtz is now willing to aid you in governmental affairs! And he got rid of those stupid mints! Your 'Bowl of Mints' trait has been completely negated!
 
I just had a thought.

Do we know what day it is in universe during the Janna portion?

I don't think it's ever been explicitly said to be Christmas.
 
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