It's already confirmed that, barring a super amazing roll, Ludivine would have nothing to teach Doof because they are pretty much on the same level.
I'm aware. But I want to read it. I also figure that if we throw in a chat with bossman it might boost the benefit due to Doof and Ludivine having more time to !!SCIENCE!! Also, given Ludivine ludicrous learning stat, Loyalty boosts would be absolutely great.
 
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Khan is a non-entity in terms of how CEOs are "realistically" picked.

Do remember that stats are representations. The people in the world of Doofquest don't see stats.
CEO's are picked primarily based on "do they physically look competent" and "did they recently hold a similar title, and come with recommendations to the board"

we don't have a board. Thank goodness. Boards are terrible. As is the process of selecting CEOs. As are CEOs.

but if we're not making it a democracy (A co-op like Mondragon), it's probably going to be autocratic kingship (we have no board of oligarchs mucking around) and someone would be the actual Steward administrating the realm while the royal line CEO does whatever they please.

Wil E is a reasonable successor from the perspective that he recently held a title of prestige. Unfortunately, he is a Toon and does not have "the look of competence" going for him.

Genghis Khan however, has the looks. The muscles. The historical resume (the fact it exists matters more than the content). The star power.

Like. CEO's are picked without regard to their capability, track record, and intelligence. They are there to be relative figure heads and some of the most successful (like Jack-n-the-Box's CEO) do relatively little in terms of executive action. Literally, sitting still and listening to others run the company is usually more successful than trying to muck about with it.

This is functionally a King listening to Advisors run the realm while they do other things (generally related to the loyalty of nobility or the morale of the masses. Steve Jobs did this) rather than actually try to govern. There are rare instances in which a King is also skillful enough to be a boon getting directly involved in the governance aspect (Genghis was an example of this) but in general they just had to listen and acquiesce to competent and loyal advisors.
Same as now
 
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Would people knowing he's the actual Khan break any of the masquerades? He was brought back with pure mad biology, no magic or aliens or esoteric forms of travel involved.
One of the masquerades is that we are just an eccentric CEO and not a mad scientist trying to succeed from the union. I think us having the capability to bring an ancient warlord back to life would put a crack in that one.
 
One of the masquerades is that we are just an eccentric CEO and not a mad scientist trying to succeed from the union. I think us having the capability to bring an ancient warlord back to life would put a crack in that one.
We brought the dinosaurs back, thats A canon, and B, one of our companies Huge Selling points (also we keep having Janus do diplomacy rather than Dinosaur science, he's not gonna like that forever). Khan is not a major change from that.
 
We brought the dinosaurs back, thats A canon, and B, one of our companies Huge Selling points (also we keep having Janus do diplomacy rather than Dinosaur science, he's not gonna like that forever). Khan is not a major change from that.
Except this isn't cloning or anything like that, it's a true resurrection, down to the memories. Bringing a single person fully back to life is a major change from restoring a bunch of big lizards.
 
Except this isn't cloning or anything like that, it's a true resurrection, down to the memories. Bringing a single person fully back to life is a major change from restoring a bunch of big lizards.
Apparently not, since we did it before we made dinosaurs or even confirmed that magic was real. Not every weird thing is a secret, and our science being cartoonishly good is unrelated to the whole Emperor Norton thing the government has going with us. We can be both a superscientist and a whackadoodle who likes pretending to be a dictator.
 
Apparently not, since we did it before we made dinosaurs or even confirmed that magic was real. Not every weird thing is a secret, and our science being cartoonishly good is unrelated to the whole Emperor Norton thing the government has going with us. We can be both a superscientist and a whackadoodle who likes pretending to be a dictator.
Honestly since it's so beyond what we're normally able to do and is completely impossible to repeat it's more like a miracle than mad science...

Is...

Is Doof a saint?
 
Honestly since it's so beyond what we're normally able to do and is completely impossible to repeat it's more like a miracle than mad science...

Is...

Is Doof a saint?
Obviously, by the end of the Quest we overthrow all the gods, seize control of all related afterlives/divine realms, and fuse them into a single massive purple and green utopia. We're going to need a new jingle.
 
Honestly since it's so beyond what we're normally able to do and is completely impossible to repeat it's more like a miracle than mad science...

Is...

Is Doof a saint?
Well you need tow provable miracles, and to pass a court of bishops while an advocate for the devil tries to prove you lived an unjust life.

Resurrecting Khan is definitely a miracle, there's no way in hell anybody else would be able to understand everything that went into it, even lovemuffin just kinda took our blueprints and worked from there.

The dinosaurs dont really count, we've got well-understood tech for resurrecting extinct species.

Some of Doof's inators might very well qualify, especially the more absurd ones.

Aaaaaand despite doof's protests I highly doubt the advocate would be able to prove he doesnt deserve sainthood. So yeah, he totally could be one.
 
Well you need tow provable miracles, and to pass a court of bishops while an advocate for the devil tries to prove you lived an unjust life.

Resurrecting Khan is definitely a miracle, there's no way in hell anybody else would be able to understand everything that went into it, even lovemuffin just kinda took our blueprints and worked from there.

The dinosaurs dont really count, we've got well-understood tech for resurrecting extinct species.

Some of Doof's inators might very well qualify, especially the more absurd ones.

Aaaaaand despite doof's protests I highly doubt the advocate would be able to prove he doesnt deserve sainthood. So yeah, he totally could be one.
Finally, a good use for that signature.
Shame a living person can't be declared a saint, imagine what it would do to your occult stat.
 
So we need to become some manner of undead first.

Question: assuming the requisite miracles were found, could Genghis Khan be declared a saint or would he have to die again?
Being a Canonized Saint means you're considered to be in Heaven beyond a doubt, so I'm not sure undead would count, perhaps if they were Canonized then brought back. But the process for being canonized Saint is a long and involved, usually starting at least 5 years after they die, in order to have a more objective view of the person and their deeds, only happening sooner with a special exemption by the pope.

As for the Devil's Advocate, it's technically no longer necessary, and if Doof were to die in battle or in a way that could be considered a result of faith or to protect faith only one miracle is necessary as he could be considered a martyr.

Honestly it seems like it would be better if the quest lasts longer than doof's life, since I imagine having your founder declared a saint can only do good for a company.

Sorry about the speculating, I'm catholic and find the process of canonization fascinating.
 
Well you need tow provable miracles, and to pass a court of bishops while an advocate for the devil tries to prove you lived an unjust life.

Resurrecting Khan is definitely a miracle, there's no way in hell anybody else would be able to understand everything that went into it, even lovemuffin just kinda took our blueprints and worked from there.

The dinosaurs dont really count, we've got well-understood tech for resurrecting extinct species.

Some of Doof's inators might very well qualify, especially the more absurd ones.

Aaaaaand despite doof's protests I highly doubt the advocate would be able to prove he doesnt deserve sainthood. So yeah, he totally could be one.
Being a Canonized Saint means you're considered to be in Heaven beyond a doubt, so I'm not sure undead would count, perhaps if they were Canonized then brought back. But the process for being canonized Saint is a long and involved, usually starting at least 5 years after they die, in order to have a more objective view of the person and their deeds, only happening sooner with a special exemption by the pope.

As for the Devil's Advocate, it's technically no longer necessary, and if Doof were to die in battle or in a way that could be considered a result of faith or to protect faith only one miracle is necessary as he could be considered a martyr.

Honestly it seems like it would be better if the quest lasts longer than doof's life, since I imagine having your founder declared a saint can only do good for a company.

Sorry about the speculating, I'm catholic and find the process of canonization fascinating.

Heck, even if *Canonization* is impossible to be achieved with Doofs resumee, *Beatification* should be easily possible since for that you "only" need one Miracle and as covered before, *flat-out ressurecting the Khan of Khans* should be enough to count - especially in Mongolia (granted, they aren´t Christian, but still).

So yeah, having Doof be beatificated should be well within our/his reach, considering the just life we is currently living beneath all the "I AM SO EVIL! FEAR ME" bluster.
 
Heck, even if *Canonization* is impossible to be achieved with Doofs resumee, *Beatification* should be easily possible since for that you "only" need one Miracle and as covered before, *flat-out ressurecting the Khan of Khans* should be enough to count - especially in Mongolia (granted, they aren´t Christian, but still).

So yeah, having Doof be beatificated should be well within our/his reach, considering the just life we is currently living beneath all the "I AM SO EVIL! FEAR ME" bluster.
Now I kinda want to write an omake about one of doof's interns (janna) submitting him to be beatificated as a joke, it actually working, and doof being pissed because it makes it even HARDER to take him seriously as a villain
 
CEO's are picked primarily based on "do they physically look competent" and "did they recently hold a similar title, and come with recommendations to the board"

we don't have a board. Thank goodness. Boards are terrible. As is the process of selecting CEOs. As are CEOs.

but if we're not making it a democracy (A co-op like Mondragon), it's probably going to be autocratic kingship (we have no board of oligarchs mucking around) and someone would be the actual Steward administrating the realm while the royal line CEO does whatever they please.

Wil E is a reasonable successor from the perspective that he recently held a title of prestige. Unfortunately, he is a Toon and does not have "the look of competence" going for him.

Genghis Khan however, has the looks. The muscles. The historical resume (the fact it exists matters more than the content). The star power.

Like. CEO's are picked without regard to their capability, track record, and intelligence. They are there to be relative figure heads and some of the most successful (like Jack-n-the-Box's CEO) do relatively little in terms of executive action. Literally, sitting still and listening to others run the company is usually more successful than trying to muck about with it.

This is functionally a King listening to Advisors run the realm while they do other things (generally related to the loyalty of nobility or the morale of the masses. Steve Jobs did this) rather than actually try to govern. There are rare instances in which a King is also skillful enough to be a boon getting directly involved in the governance aspect (Genghis was an example of this) but in general they just had to listen and acquiesce to competent and loyal advisors.
Same as now
I disagree that CEOs are picked without regard to their capability, as there are plenty of CEOs whom have been picked in regards to to how the board or shareholders believe they will most expand the company's profits or help endear them to a demographic, but that is neither here nor there.

The whole point I was emphasizing is that you can't say a "realistic" process of choosing a successor because everything about DEI is incredibly unrealistic to how a real company would run. We aren't public despite not making any notable products or services up until the point DEI made cricket food and computers because Doof survived on alimony checks! Doof runs his company like it's a kingdom (as you said). Nothing about about DEI can be held to "realistic" standards. I believe the term you are looking for is "plausible" not "realistic"

I would also disagree that Khan of all people is Doof's in-universe most plausible successor in even the short-term outside of an SV meta-perspective, but I also don't really care enough about that argument to push the point. I am merely trying to point out that DEI can't be held to realistic standards because everything about it is too wacky.
 
It's already confirmed that, barring a super amazing roll, Ludivine would have nothing to teach Doof because they are pretty much on the same level.
Doof will not be getting the Applied Disorder trait from Ludivine barring a truly exceptional roll, in which case he'd get a worse version of it. It is not likely, and trying to spam the teaching action will lead to diminishing returns.
That's not what the QM said. It was said that only on an extremely good roll would Doof be able to get a weakened form of Applied Disorder.

We don't know the DC for a successful tutoring session. We know that the benefits of the tutoring session change depending on the difference in stats, but there is no evidence that the DC changes and that Ludivine can't give Doof another point or two of Learning on a successful roll.
 
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I disagree that CEOs are picked without regard to their capability, as there are plenty of CEOs whom have been picked in regards to to how the board or shareholders believe they will most expand the company's profits or help endear them to a demographic, but that is neither here nor there.

The whole point I was emphasizing is that you can't say a "realistic" process of choosing a successor because everything about DEI is incredibly unrealistic to how a real company would run. We aren't public despite not making any notable products or services up until the point DEI made cricket food and computers because Doof survived on alimony checks! Doof runs his company like it's a kingdom (as you said). Nothing about about DEI can be held to "realistic" standards. I believe the term you are looking for is "plausible" not "realistic"

I would also disagree that Khan of all people is Doof's in-universe most plausible successor in even the short-term outside of an SV meta-perspective, but I also don't really care enough about that argument to push the point. I am merely trying to point out that DEI can't be held to realistic standards because everything about it is too wacky.
I mean. Have you seen the silly garbage musk and bezos get away with? Or the clown fiesta that is america's aristocratic class?

We actually aren't that far out from being realistic
 
We actually aren't that far out from being realistic
The main difference is that Musk pays people to understand rockets for him and Doof pays people to understand rockets in addition to him. That's a pretty important break from reality, since it means that somehow DEI is organized in a way that does need someone who's actually good at doing stuff at the top.
 
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