So legal but unlikely.
Honestly, how many perks would be genetically inherited by any hypothetical kids?
- Legacy of Hephaestus (Percy Jackson)?
- Half-blood Wizard (Harry Potter)?
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So legal but unlikely.
Honestly, how many perks would be genetically inherited by any hypothetical kids?
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Novel Addict
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There's also the zoanthrope genes. There's Strike Witch potential for any girls ("If I had children they could inherit the power, but only if they were girls." - Incapacitated).
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theflyingbiscuit
"Titanic neechan"
I would remind you the goal of plan "stupid" is not to kill or hurt Apeiron.
It's to summon a hard to reach tinker to ask him for help.
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I have seen nothing about it messing up Coil's, multiple comments about it messing up Dinah's precog,
And this comment about not messing with Coil'sWOG chapter 43 said:
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Even worse! How can you trust that he'll stick around long enough for you to ask? How do you get close enough to the battle to get such info communicated??? Do you really want to interfere in a fight between MARCH and APEIRON
AntaeusTheGiant
Child of Gaea
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If Jozef himself is actually involved in the process rather than thru genetic material taken from discarded body parts, at least some of his perks will be involved and influence the child as well. Just as one example, Decadence from Dune, among other things, triggers whenever Jozef "creates" something, a child should count for that.
Also, he has several traits such as increased creativity and intelligence, and certain talents, that he has received from the forge that are now a complete part of himself, so children should have as great a chance of inheriting some of those traits as any child would any other traits a parent has. So, no guarantee of high intelligence, but a greater chance than with Joe from before the Forge.
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- Not here. Maybe on SB.
Btw, if someone going to make a PHO sidestories, may you add there that:
"I have created an open petition to change Apeiron's official name to "The Bullshit". Because it is the name that most fully and accurately reflects him and his powers.
[LINK]
You support is appreciated.
edit: Changed "Because he is" to "Because it is the name that most fully and accurately reflects him and his powers", to make it look more formal."
"I have created an open petition to change Apeiron's official name to "The Bullshit". Because it is the name that most fully and accurately reflects him and his powers.
[LINK]
You support is appreciated.
edit: Changed "Because he is" to "Because it is the name that most fully and accurately reflects him and his powers", to make it look more formal."
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I have been enjoying the story, but I'm struggling to stay interested. I wasn't really happy with how the fight worked but I decided to just let it go and move past it. Except we aren't moving past it. Four months and almost 190k words and we are still basically on the fight. The very disappointing fight where, despite all his progress, Joe got his ass handed to him and managed to destroy significant part of the city. Sorry, I'm trying to not rehash that, but it's hard, cause that is all the story is doing, rehashing this cluster.
I'm trying to figure out what we learned in this chapter that really matters. We learned Damsel is in town, that might have been hinted but seems new to me. We learned that the Travelers want Joe to help Noelle, seems a bit obvious, but I think its new. That's about all I can think of, am I missing something? Neil was somewhat sympathetic, but to be honest, I don't really care about him. Marries wasn't even sympathetic, and I definitely don't care about her.
I'm trying to figure out what we learned in this chapter that really matters. We learned Damsel is in town, that might have been hinted but seems new to me. We learned that the Travelers want Joe to help Noelle, seems a bit obvious, but I think its new. That's about all I can think of, am I missing something? Neil was somewhat sympathetic, but to be honest, I don't really care about him. Marries wasn't even sympathetic, and I definitely don't care about her.
Each his own i guess. You have your opinion and I respect it.
Personally, i like it because it show different perspectives and viewpoints because I care about these characters. They are well written so I want to read more about them. Rune, Neil and Mars are completely different from each other with their own lifes, opinions and problems so I don't mind when the narrative slow down a bit because I want to learn more about them.
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I doubt any of those would work, because we are talking about serious Apeirontech.
Keep in mind that's extremely strong attacks by Apeiron unrealistic standards. To give an idea on Apeiron's standards, he also said :
As for removing the watch, that's a big no, because Coil isn't even aware of them (and even if he was, he would still have to go through the forcefield):
Realistically, Coil can't damage the Undersiders even if he wanted to. That will have a subtle impact on the story, because it mean he can no longer torture Tattletale for info.
Is he really a villain (in the public mind) ? All he did was to stop other villains.
...would it create 5 babies ? Poor mother.
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Not really. Even if it did count, he isn't the one finishing the creation so it doesn't count. At best, he would produce 5 times more sperm in various locations near where he came, or he would release roughly 25 times the volume of sperm in one place.
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- He
...Are we really talking about how much sperm a fictional character might theoretically make with their powers? Get your minds out of the gutter, people!
I was merely pointing out that in the process of "crafting" a baby, the only thing the perk workaholic would apply to is the sperm, and even that is a stretch.
When it comes to biology what workaholic applies to becomes tricky, since when he heals people he doesn't give them extra organs. Or cancer. Though that could be counted as modifying something rather than crafting. But the same applies to making a child.
Maybe if he took an egg and artificially inseminated it it would count as crafting. But short of that I don't think the perk would kick in.
theflyingbiscuit
"Titanic neechan"
Serious at the time. If he built them now they would be better. Not going to look about at all the improvements he had since he built them, but there have been some significant ones.
I would remind you that Noelle was only killed when Skitter convinced Sundancer to do it. Not Legend who was there, not even Eildion. I don't know any faster description of the raw power she can throw around, then the Trimunutive, and a crowd of capes, being upstaged in one shot.
As for Ballistic, I did some quick and dirty math and assuming a smaller then average car (3000 pounds) fired out of a 10mm it would have the force of ~6000x the force of the 50cal. Even with cars being less then ideal ammo, I would argue that is an extremely strong attack for something rated in 50 cals to endure barrages of.
That is for the watches, only not the forcefields. The watches have the advantage of being made of exotic solid materials and being able to be directly built by his hand, as opposed to the forcefield which is built by the watch. Direct comparison are not very useful.
He would be aware of them after the first timeline.
It's like a safe. The goal of a security safe is not to keep people out indefinitely, it's to keep them out long enough for the security guard to notice. In this case, the guard noticing is the goal. Even if for the sake of argument bullet car barrages are not enough to break the shield, this step of plan "stupid" has still succeeded if Apeiron shows up.
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can Joe make boxing gloves would they function like combat boots in the way they're both a weapon a defensive armor and maybe a machine because of the secret of steel I love that the more you think about this the better it gets and while I'm on a quick rant I want to say to Lord you are an amazing man and I admire your determination your creativity and your mad genius your amazing and I want you to know it man keep shining like the brightest star in the sky
But it would defeat the point of wanting him to help them. No point in getting him to come if he will attack you instead of help you.
theflyingbiscuit
"Titanic neechan"
I do call it plan "stupid" and have insulted the plan in every post for a reason.
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ok, understood
also action scenes in this story somehow remind me of Viewtiful Joe
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Gomaeron, The Earthshakers
Given the Name of Sculptors in Sidarin, These Divine, Heretically Adapting, Earth-dust percipitated Mithril/Adamantium Knuckles are covered in runes and earth-shaping transmutation circles. They feature an HF capacitor, and with a combination of The Arcane Craft and That Undefinable Thing, they also act as useful aura focuses. They can expand into large Tonfas which are also covered in runes, allowing for stronger effects.
That's just the active effects that come to mind after like 20 mins of brainstorming. I loathe to think of what Joe could come up with and create.
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This is not the place for NSFW discussions of BCF. Fairly certain there's a QQ thread specifically for such topics.
It could also make one baby five times as big.
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It's amazing right and btw I have read your spinoff Brocton bays grand Grimoire it's great too what do you think Joe would do with something like the magus perk the one that let your character make mystic codes
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Thank you, corrected.
Thank you, corrected.
Thank you, corrected.
Thanks for the omake.
Thanks for teh omake.
It's not about avoiding powers, though I am trying to not need to explain new powers at the start of one of Joe's chapters. That's why if a chapter doesn't involve him he's not getting points from it. The impact of powers as they arrive is significant and I don't want to have to spend the first few thousand words of a new chapter explaining what Joe got offscreen. The in-universe explanation for powers is the connection to Joe's engagement with the world, so vignettes of something happening exclusively to another person with no direct involvement from Joe don't grant points.
The reason for the number of interludes is because the stations of canon are basically flaming wrecks at this point. Normally in a worm story you can coast on the established aspects of the characters, but things have shifted so much that it feels like I need to spend time covering how each character is managing things if only to maintain consistent characterization given the situations. Manpower isn't in the same position he was in canon and therefore I needed to spend time establishing where he was mentally as well as what has been happening with New Wave. It's fairly introspective, but sets the baseline that lets the story move forward properly. I get that it's not to everyone's taste, but stuff like this is kind of important to round out the impact things have had on people other than the protagonist.
I know, Chubster, right? Who would want to read about him? I mean, a look at the mindset of Ben Cothran, Los Angeles protectorate member and S-class responder? What could possibly be interesting or insightful about that? Why would I spend time from the perspective of someone who devoted themselves to fighting the worst disasters in the world could while also working directly under Alexandria, a member of the Triumvirate and secret director of the PRT? What could a man who saw the highest level of combat but also maintained enough humor and grace to maintain a joke cape name say about the situation in Brockton Bay? What could a divorced father who's only daughter was head of the LA Wards team think about the conduct of young parahumans in a disaster area on the other side of the country? Why would I bother any of that?
Okay, enough sarcasm. I get people are tired of interludes and want to move on. I'm going to be trying that with the next chapter, and am hoping to have the situation wrapped up within the next two. I'm not actually going to write a 20,000 word Chubster interlude out of spite, but the idea did get more appealing the more I though about it to the point where we might check in with Ben at some point in the future.
Joe's not going to need Oliver to point out connections. The online reaction will already have made the Gundam connection and the rest of the details will fill in from there. Joe is going to have to come up with some way of explaining things that lets him keep some level of grounding in reality, probably a broader multiverse perspective than what Professor Haywire proposed, but the 'fiction influenced powers' thing is out of the bag.
Precise details of the Minovsky particles are being withheld because of both the significance of that technology and the 'fictional origin' thing that's being dealt with. The stuff that can be done with Minovsky particles and I-fields is significant, even without the ability to create them yourself, and the duplicates don't want to pour gas on that particular fire. Publicly the suggestions being made online that there's an I-field in Brockton Bay aren't being taken particularly seriously at the moment and the duplicates would prefer for it to stay that way, at least for the foreseeable future.
The real issue with the Dust trails isn't that they have Dust in them, it's that they have divinely crafted, Heretically Adaptive Dust that's been enhanced by Joe's workshop and powers. That's the cause of the unusually clean distributions and persistent effects, and is what will cause complications with duration and cleanup. In terms of safety people aren't exactly poking the mysterious tinker effect with sticks to see what it does. The only reason they aren't avoiding the effects entirely is they need to cross them to evacuate the area. That's the limit of their exposure, and as many precautions as possible are being taken around those effects.
Also, they are less significant than the assorted Bakuda blasts that are still active, so the focus is really on those.
Unfortunately, I need to clarify the limitations of this story again. The format and schedule I've committed to mean that editing really isn't possible. Elements of the story are driven by wordcount, meaning the emphasis will always be to push forward rather than circle back and revise for conciseness. That is a core problem of how this started. I didn't begin this story with a grand epic planned out. It was a writing exercise mean to make it easier to maintain the pace or my writing. I did four of these before I decided to post and continue this one. Unfortunately, there are some flaws that go right back to the foundation of the story. As it stands this is still exercise for me, a way to keep writing and try to improve. I'm trying to do the best I can within that format, but that's still how this is structured. Sometimes side stories go deeper than I had intended and the overall progression lags. I'm trying to improve that, but there's only so much I can do without changing the structure or intention of the work.
No need to worry about Marth. Joe hasn't rolled Fire Emblem: Awakening's Armsthrift perk yet, so he is safely insulated from that series.
Tattletale has been operating at a handicaps for most of the story, first from Joe's out of context growth and passenger and then from March's interference. You can see how much that's been wearing on her, but I wouldn't call that nerfing. March's ability to spoof thinkers is canon, even if it was a contentious fact about her. With her blocked from coordinating forces a lot of thinkers are functional again.
With respect to Tattletale's current capacity and what she could manage, I have to ask. Didn't Coil seem unusually confident in his statements? Perhaps more so than could be explained by the combination of Dinah's and his own power being back at full capacity? Perhaps something that might indicate a certain powerful thinker is steering analysis towards a perspective more favorable to her and her team?
Just something to think about.
The Workshop's curtain blocks any data from being acquired through it as it's Washu level privacy. It doesn't affect any information gained outside the field, so Joe still exists in thinker models, they are just wrong the moment he enters the workshop. It's a complicated interaction, but generally predictions made before Joe went into the workshop are held until he emerges and scrambles everything again. It's not like Out of Context Problem where he's just returning errors, which is actually a point in his favor. Rather than get a response of "Joe who?" or "404: Prediction not found" precogs get useless results that used to be valid but shortly won't be. It's the kind of think that works to avoid attention because unless careful attention is being paid to the predictions it's not clear that Joe is the one responsible for any inaccuracies.
In a similar way, out of context powers like psychic abilities will be better at spoofing thinkers than the actual Out of Context Problem perk. Those let Joe be modeled, the models just change every time the power is used, meaning the thinker believes they have the data they need when they are really working from junk. It's a different situation than Joe being a blind spot and everyone knowing that he's a blind spot.
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To be honest, considering your knack for interludes and the way you phrased it, I'm honestly not gonna complain if we get a look at Chubster even as a Preamble.
I'm looking forward to the confirmation and reaction from both sides to the fact that Joe's using legit Gundam stuff that runs on Gundam Physics cuz some of them can get pretty awesome or insane depending on which Gundam series ie. GN Drives etc.
I'm looking forward to the confirmation and reaction from both sides to the fact that Joe's using legit Gundam stuff that runs on Gundam Physics cuz some of them can get pretty awesome or insane depending on which Gundam series ie. GN Drives etc.
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