Brockton's Celestial Forge (Worm/Jumpchain)

And if you are in need of better (read cryptographically secure) randomness, the secrets module can do so. If you do not trust that library, you can also use os.urandom() (depending on platform support).
PS: If this is not enough, you have bigger problems (fundamental failures in cryptography and/or you have a trusting trust situation).
 
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Yes, computers are not truly random, but we don't need some crypto-secure randomness here to get something "good enough".
Praise be RNGesus and Monte-Carlo for letting us brute force complex probability calculations!

Python' RNG (mersenne twister) is good enough for statistical stuff(especially at this level). It is only when you need something that is cryptographically secure (eg secure and unpredictable against adversaries) that python's default rng fails.
There do exist modules you can import that can better simulate true randomness, which can correct that. Still, the default is good enough.
And if you are in need of better (read cryptographically secure) randomness, the secrets module can do so. If you do not trust that library, you can also use os.urandom() (depending on platform support).
I stand owned and will concede the fact
Weirdly enough python is one of those few languages I haven't touched
It's fine, tbh I was nitpicking because I didn't agree with the numbers and was annoyed at being wrong, I concede in whole
 
SV: The one place where you can expect people to debate the pesduorandomness provided by python in respect to a rapidly written python program to probabilistically calculate the odds of certain events happening in a story.
God I love this forum.

Anyways, I really hope that Joe gets a minor victory and some therapy soon.
 
Doesn't Simple Scientific Solution only work on Joe's home ?
It only works on home appliances. It never specified that it can only be Joe's or that he can't sell them. Though selling them might not work. But building them into other homes should be fine.

Or he can buy the land and build the new homes thus they are technically his. And I think he should do this anyway since it would stop the original landlord from kicking people out to hike the prices up.
 
It's fine, tbh I was nitpicking because I didn't agree with the numbers

The numbers disagreed even more with my napkin maths, so I feel your pain.

Anyways, I really hope that Joe gets a minor victory and some therapy soon.

I hope Joe rolls Strong Spark, making therapy irrelevant by discarding all his mental problems and replacing them with much more exciting mental problems which are also on fire... and would make Bakuda look sane by comparison.

...but yeah, I'll take the therapy otherwise.
 
SV: The one place where you can expect people to debate the pesduorandomness provided by python in respect to a rapidly written python program to probabilistically calculate the odds of certain events happening in a story.
God I love this forum.

Anyways, I really hope that Joe gets a minor victory and some therapy soon.
It's Thursday, and his therapy is on Saturday, so 3 days.
 
I hope Joe rolls Strong Spark, making therapy irrelevant by discarding all his mental problems and replacing them with much more exciting mental problems which are also on fire... and would make Bakuda look sane by comparison.
*Face palms* No. That was not what I said. The story has been building up so much steam that I would prefer to have some of it burned off. There has been too much focus on tinkering/perks and combat while character development is somewhat neglected. I'd like to see how Joe handles the strain being unloaded by a bit (will he suddenly collapse? will he keep pushing? who knows).
 
Ok I know this is no longer discussed by when it was i didn't see this fact being brought up so i will just add it now. I regards to Gully and how she plans to pay Joe for his healing that was already stated when we were informed that she had moved to the city in the first place, from chapter 36.1 the Dragon interlude:

"Oh, hello Gully. I didn't expect you." She greeted the Case 53.

"None of us did." The director spoke sternly from behind her desk. "Miss Gully decided to take the redeye from California, after withdrawing most of the discretionary portion of her trust fund. All for a vacation, correct?"

The hulking girl gave the director a crooked smile. "Of course, director. What other reason could I possibly have for coming here?" Her voice was deeper than most men, but she compensated by barely speaking above a whisper. Dragon knew how badly Gully's condition bothered her, and the true reason for her arrival was apparent to everyone in the room.

"Right. Gully has assured us that she has no intention of getting involved in the current situation, one way or the other." She gave the girl a hard look as she spoke. "That said 'enjoy' your time in our city Miss Gully."

So it seems to me that she has liquidated as much of her money as possible since I'm guessing she is willing to pay anything she can for Joe to heal her. Joe could probably take some scans and data as payment, but letting her pay at least some of it with her own money would also let her walk away feeling like things were done between them, for instance if I were Weld i would still feel like i owed Joe something due to the sheer ease of my payment and how little it meant to me compared to how much i relatively would have gotten.


Also a quick word on Contessa that isn't really that relevant since she still performing the same role as in the original canon, but a lot of her power in the worm setting also comes from her being a part of Cauldron and having their resources available to her, most notably her ability to teleport anywhere instantly. If she was operating alone and trying to take out Joe she would have to travel and gather the resources to somehow get her hands on an annihilator effect either in the form of assistance from another parahuman or some piece of tinkertech. But with Cauldron they probably either got something like that in reserve for if they'd ever need it or just have Eidolon pull an annihilator power and then "door in". Again this is a theoretical, but if she were to operate alone without Cauldron her greatest problem could even be something as simple as the travel time between the places she would have to go to in order to carry out her paths.

In regards to Joe it almost seems wasteful and risky to use Contessa against him since he would force her to relatively often adjust her path and is part time blank, if Cauldron wanted to kill of Joe, Eidolon popping by for a quick sucker punch with a good annihilator attack seems like the better option, especially since Joe gaining a power mid-attack would simply mean Eidolon would have to adjust his powers or approach (if said power would even be meaningful in said engagement).
 
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Becoming insane would not cure his other issues in any capacity

Sparks are naturally charismatic, don't hesitate to communicate with others, and apply their talents with pretty much no restraint. It would totally solve his PR problem.


Eidolon popping by for a quick sucker punch with a good annihilator attack seems like the better option, especially since Joe gaining a power mid-attack would simply mean Eidolon would have to adjust his powers or approach (if said power would even be meaningful in said engagement).

I don't disagree, but Joe is very fast, so landing a hit on him will be hard without bullshit auto aim.

Also, when Ediolon switch powers, it take a few minutes to power up the new power. It's fine for Endbringer battles, but for 1v1 versus other capes, it's a risky move.
 
Also, when Ediolon switch powers, it take a few minutes to power up the new power. It's fine for Endbringer battles, but for 1v1 versus other capes, it's a risky move.

Ahh thats my bad, I wasn't aware of that time constraint, then he'd better get some good powers for the perfect first and only blow if they were to go that route, which i doubt in the first place, but thanks for pointing it out.
 
Kind of random, but I know that kamui have to be skimpy because of reasons. But that's only their activated/battle mode right? So if their passive mode don't have to be skimpy and can actually be whatever, then will Tetra's passive mode be a 4-piece suit that then in battle mode becomes Garment's ultimate fashion design, the barbarian chic?

Apeiron the gentleman pre-battle, looking classy and throwing out one liners to get everyone's blood pumping. Who knows what sort of deal he could offer or what world shaking information he may reveal.

Then boom. You're fighting Apeiron the barbarian. But you're not actually fighting him are you? No, you're too distracted by the way his abs glisten, his pectoral muscles bulging under the armor, and what the lion cloth does to his glutes? By God, those glutes should be an S-Class threat all by themselves. And all the while he'll be posing on you, quiping and laying out all of the reasons you suck.

Finally the battle ends and Aperion the gentleman returns post 'battle'. Now he's healing bystanders and making deals to fix the nearby buildings, looking suave yet professional all the while.
 
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There has been too much focus on tinkering/perks and combat while character development is somewhat neglected.
The fact that the entire story so far had taken place over the course of days means that any character development at all would be fairly minor wouldn't it? Joe's character has developed, but that's largely forced experience messing with him.

His next therapy appointment will be rather enlightening I'd say.
 
"There was no denying that Khepri was thin, model height, and had amazing hair."

Insert scene where Taylor feels awkward pride whenever Khepri's looks gets complimented.

PHO: "Her hair is so fabulous!"
Taylor: (*blushes*) :oops:

I'm looking forward to Taylor and Aisha finally meeting, which may descend into passive-aggressive cattiness. A clueless Joe is blind to the girls' subtext (or too risk-adverse to stop their conflict), adrenaline junkie Fleet hopes the two starts a catfight, and Survey is intrigued by cape social dynamics.

God help us if Taylor's and Aisha's first meeting happens in the Japanese bathhouse. Onsens are for fanservice, not fights.
 
I find that actually plausible. I hate how Hero faking his own death is a valid theory. Contessa doesn't care enough to run the "Make the triumvirate survive" path and hero was at odds with a lot of cauldrons shit. Hero was also an absolute bullshit tinker. Wavelength fuckery is a strong power when almost all the entity weirdness is based on waves. Calling it now, joes dad is actually hero and he used some weird wave stuff to retire.

edit: Like this is a joke but still, this could happen and I wouldn't even be surprised
Even Contessa can have oversights and mistakes. Canonically, we know (as much as we can know anything from someone with super plotting powers) she made a mistake that got the Numberman (and later many others) killed in Ward. Presumably, she made a similar mistake with Alexandria.

"I said to make sure Alexandria is alive!" Contessa says
"She is alive. She is a living vegetable." Shard-san says
"That does not qualify as alive!"
"It does for my definition and that is the one that maters."

My headcanon is that the whole Hero catastrophe took place while she was asleep and did not notice something (i.e. a trigger) changing things.

EDIT: according to the wiki, it's not one of Scion shard, but it's unclear if it's one of Eden or one of Abaddon.
If Alex gives Elizabeth a cake, and Elizabeth puts it in the fridge for later. When she pick it up to eat it, the cake stabs her in the hand and falls to the floor. As the ants devour the cake, are they eating Alex's cake or Elizabeth's.

One thing Contessa can learn is his thinker power would push him away from joining Cauldron cause it views them as evil.
From what I could find the passenger does not view them as evil per say, just very dangerous to start to look into.
Either way it is not like she has to tell him who he is working for either. Remember how long it took him and his passenger to ID the ABB thinker?

"Who is this Italian lady? Why is she wearing a cowboy hat and looks like she is going to a rodeo?"
 
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I just think that deep down inside of him Joe wants to flirt and pose sexily he just gets embarrassed because he was conditioned to be the family punching bag in his home life.
Speaking of his family, we know very little about his dad. The mom was bipolar but not diagnosed yet according to joe's therapist. His sister from chicago is not the best. His other sister, the one in brockton, is even worse. The dad is only known to have not really done anything. There might be some actual plot with them after all the ABB stuff blows over.
"JOZEF ALBERT DURIS! DON'T YOU DARE SPEAK TO YOUR MOTHER LIKE THAT!"

The canon bombing spree occurs mid-through-late April, which means MOTHER'S DAY is right around the corner once Bakuda is taken care of.

Poor Joe is doomed regardless of whether he calls his mother or not. If he does call, it'll give Mrs. Duris a chance to rail into him. And if he doesn't, the entire Duris family will get upset Joe didn't reach out on Mother's Day.

Meanwhile, the psychiatrist Dr. Campbell is pooping in his brown pants over the Duris family being toxic and verbally abusive to a powerful rogue tinker, justifiably worried that they might push Joe too far and make him snap.
 
I kinda wanna see the MC get a node from the Halo universe, which could come with Cortana. She'd end up figuring out that Dragon was an AI and tell Joe. She'd probably be insanely helpful in many ways too, and act as a older sister figure to Survey and Fleet :p.
 
So, which titans do y'all think that Joe should be descended from when he gets titian blooded and why? I'm thinking:
Gaia - Creation
Metis - Knowledge
Prometheus - Forethought

Honestly for the Celestial Forge it would make most sense for him to be of Gaia's blood directly so that he can be connected to creation.
 
So, which titans do y'all think that Joe should be descended from when he gets titian blooded and why? I'm thinking:
Gaia - Creation
Metis - Knowledge
Prometheus - Forethought

Honestly for the Celestial Forge it would make most sense for him to be of Gaia's blood directly so that he can be connected to creation.
The author has confirmed on AO3 that the Titan Joe will be descended from is Prometheus.
 
Gully is a parahuman and a Brute with Earth powers, so obviously Joe is going to want a tissue sample (for Chimeras) and a bone sample (to grow more bones for the bonegodsteel) and scans of her using her powers (for enchantments)
 
Can you calculate what are the probability for Joe to draw one specific 400 pts perk next chapter (assuming 900 points gained), pretty please ?

(Very quick and dirty napkin math give me 1%, but I'm not good enough at probability to calculate the exact number myself.)

The rolls are not equal, please see the spreadsheet for actual chances of rolling them, though that does not take into account if he does not have enough points for them.

docs.google.com

Brockton's Celestial Forge Reference

Possible Perks Domain No. ,Constellation,Place in Domain,Place Overall,Name,Origin Jump,Min Cost,Cluster Cost,All Costs,Chance to Roll (Not counting CP required),Description,Perks available 12,Alchemy Constellation,9,294,Mixing Mixtures,Banjo-Kazooie,200,200,200,1.39%,Your created potions can be...
 
Huh wonder how much of that was an act on Marche's part, and how much was legit 'Oh shit, not as planned' when Joe started going off script due to all the powerups he's been having while 'off screen', from her view.
IMO it's the latter. Lord spent a bunch of time (in fic and out) talking about Thinker arrogance and their "fake it till you make it" tactics AND how annoying March can be.

March's prediction is actually surprisingly close to being on point here: a few seconds less and she'd have been right.

That's good enough to still make her a threat. Having March capable of perfectly predicting Apeiron despite all the changes he's gone through would be annoying and Mary Sue-like.

If this ends up as long as the Bakuda fight it may be a while before it's done. That little cue is at least a sign that March isn't omniscient so you don't stew for weeks with her appearing to always have the upper hand.
Not gonna lie, the only impression I have right now is that Joe should literally be able to drown every single combat zone in drones considering his matter transmutation, duplication etc., abilities.

Like it's almost SOD destroying that he's having the amount of trouble that he is. Hell, with the sheer speed and power of Life Fibers and his enhanced body he should be running around at Supersonic speeds saving the day.

This was an enjoyable read and I do enjoy how the characters are written and the conflicts.

I just....considering the sheer amount of words that have been given over to hyping up his tech (including this update even) I almost feel...dare I say....underwhelmed?


This is of course just a preliminary feeling.

I read thru the update pretty quickly. The time flew by. The descriptions and gambits goingo n really drew me in!

I enjoyed every second of the story.

My brain is just telling me this should honestly be easier for Joe than it is right now.

Like I know he's not holding back anymore or whatever, but it almost feels like he is???

Not really see how to parse it at the moment.

These are just my overall thoughts on the chapter off the cuff.

10/10 enjoyed reading! Just...honestly feel like Joe is perhaps even subconsciously limiting himself more than even he knows.
It isn't just that Joe isn't winning: it's that he spends a lot of time tinkering in ways that seem worthless for what he's actually facing (e.g. the boots project which would be great for an Endbringer battle but is only a marginal improvement in his ability to stop March).

Anyways: are we taking bets? Cause Chen is dead right? A shame but it seems like the only outcome: Bakuda and March have access to data about his healing. And they have annihilator effects. Over/under they whack him and the duplicate if he ever gets close enough to him?
 
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