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Yea but victor is doing the equivalent of just taking once class of physics and instantly going to work on the demon core.
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You wouldn't need to. Remember when Aisha "paid"? Just write a beginner's book of alchemy and then dip it in lathe water instant redaction add a tint from the underbow and it would eat any info left regarding the subject. Just as long as the Forge takes protective measures.
Well once he's poured though Truth I expect him to have a decent chance at figuring it out. Especially if he's given a hint by his Shard or has a Second Trigger from failing to revive his first love.
You've really got'a stop with this retribution fetishization; it's weird and creepy and nobody here wants to listen to you get off on fantasies of it.
Throwing people under the buss is the most basic of basic political/cult actions; give someone to hate and they'll follow you into hell itself; that's just how humans are built.
Well he would definitely want to get a cloning tank and/or some life-support from Blasto to keep his Hominculus in, possibly also some symbiont biomass to patch up his final result, while working on it and possibly giving Othala some time to apply regeneration to it.
...Actually a thought occurs; if Victor looses his Corona Pollentia then he won't lose his powers; he'll lose his control over his powers; that would aggravate his need for recognition and hatred of being unable to fix his reputation because of his damaged reputation even more then his current situation; that would encourage a Second Trigger even more. Worse then that it would probably encourage a Broken Trigger if his connection to his Shard was damaged.
Right; I was going for √-1 seconds but messed up with the symbols.
I wouldn't put it passed March to pop the Call Bead in the Time Bubble without popping the Time Bubble.
To be fair Parahumans are intended to be ways for Shards to experiment.
Also as I understand it heavy water, water made using isotopes of oxygen and hydrogen, is a byproduct of radiation containment rather then a requirement of power-plant operation.
Burning up souls to run soul-farming habitats; I thought that that was pretty clear.
Victors Shard has a lot of mass to lose to experimentation; if Truth chews up the part of it responsible for Victors powers then it can just connect to a different Parahuman or reconnect to Victor or something.
Actually it would probably make it easier for Victor to have a Second Trigger if the part of his Shard responsible for his powers got eaten by Truth; he would probably not need to experience a Trigger similar to his first one.
Nah; Victor's relying on his first loves Shard to get her engram and resleeve her into a new body; if Zion could do that with Edens Shards then he would have already done that.
I'd give good odds of Victor being willing to lose his position withing the Empire, or even the Empire itself, in return for his first love.
That on the other hand could easily be too much; like a decent chunk out of both of them could be acceptable by both of them, especially since they're both able to provide medical care, but all of one of them would be too much.
He didn't; he just picked up enough to have a grounding in it before refining his understanding of it from first principle all over again.
Humans explicitly know how the different brain-cell types behave and I don't appreciate you trying to claim that nobody knows how brains work just because you don't.
God can you imagine Truth trying to each a Shard in return for a mere human soul?
Anyone else imagining a meeting between Scion and Truth?
Any thoughts on what Truth would take from the emo eldtritch abomination? My immediate thought was to remove his extradimensional projection ability, reducing him to the equivalent of you-can-look-but-you-can't-touch.
You're correct that ordinary water gradually consumes neutrons to turn into heavy water. That kills the reaction if your fuel is barely making enough neutrons to keep the chain going. Enriched uranium can keep the reaction going despite the absorbed neutrons. If you only have un-enriched uranium, a heavy water moderator is the most practical way to get a chain reaction out of it. Add too much uranium and the reaction will briefly run away, boil your heavy water while contaminating it with radioactive material, and then self-regulate because it's lost some of its moderator.
The most common way to get heavy water is to collect heavy hydrogen out of ordinary hydrogen compounds with chemical processes, where a temperature change triggers an exchange of hydrogens between two chemicals that moves more deuterium in one direction than the other. It's more practical to use chemical processes for enriching hydrogen than for other elements because the mass difference between isotopes is proportionately far larger.
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First, I not sure how multi quoting that many readers is ruled, but it also not that polite (I think).
Fetishization imply I get off with this, at must I only have some dark amusement. I will comment that this was actually hurtful. If you wish that hard for me to stop you could had send me a PM and I would had done so and restrict my 'fetishization'.
While I curious about something I will stop here, and edit the post then.
edited: Done.
edit3: grammar.
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I brought this up before but it would depend on what would hurt most to Scion when he did it. Such as not being able to complete the Cycle thanks to suffering a massive corruption within him to connect to and utilize his Shards. While also losing the Thinker completely as Eden turns into some sort of horrific monstrosity that is incompatiable with her Shards that actually causes more damage to their System then anything else.
Pretty much dooming the Cycle permanently and losing the Thinker all because Scion tried to play God.
That actually went more dark then I considered after slapping myself awake. But such things are what resulted in the attempts that lead to the creation of the Humonculus in the original anime along with Father in Brotherhood. Also, what would it take to even have the materials to use as a source for that transmutation besides the Flesh Garden? And I'm not 100% sure he already knows where that is since he never even attempted to go there until Golden Morning. Along with what would happen afterwards to humanity at that point.
Victor is a sadistic NAZI who has likely ruined thousands of lives by this point. Aside from the other likely results of meeting Truth (if Victor survives) I'd love to see the neo-nazi transformed into someone targeted by the E88. Karmic justice for the win!
Pretty sure it has to be Brotherhood because I don't remember them having Alkahestry in the first show. I could be wrong though.
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You forget that Victor in his arrogance (and probably lasting effects of his inferiority/superiority complex and also his trigger trauma) is almost entirely self-delusional. And all the skills in the world aren't changing that any time soon...
Taking his inner monologues as the Gospel Truth is ridiculous.
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What if Victor trades the complete info before he makes his attempt at human transmutation. Then that group of thinkers get Alchemy and then its only a question of time when they discover that you MUST do Equivalent Exchange, even with human souls. So if they do a Father style to create a philosopher stone and sacrifices a small town or a containment zone. It would get extremely dangerous by then.
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Victor's mindset more than anything is going to put him in danger.
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Truth will punish victor enough to break his pride.
Father
This article is about the character. For the episode, see Episode 28: Father (2009 series). The Dwarf in the Flask: Homunculus (フラスコの中の小人(ホムンクルス), Homunkurusu), referred to as "Father" (お父様, Otō-sama) by his "children", the other homunculi, is the main antagonist of the Fullmetal Alchemist manga...
Truth will punish victor enough to break his pride.
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This always stays in my mind when a nazi with skill stealing powers appears in a fic, he is an absolute monster in the background whether you like it or not.
I'll say it today and I'll say it again more. Fuck nazis.
You've given me an interesting thought, Survey being a Spy master times a thousand and creating personas in the dark web to access hidden groups that communicate secretly.
It's a perfect setup that can be infinitely replicated, countless groups of Surveys-in-disguise harvesting data from unsuspecting veteran information brokers. If this doesn't appear in the fic, I am going to riot.
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Fleet: That many intances of Survey would slow down the internet connection on a global level.
Survey: DAAAAAAD! FLEET IS CALLING ME DATA HEAVY AGAIN!
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On the internet no one knows you're Survey
This. A lot of this discussion seems to be forgetting that in FMA Ed learned that human resurrection was impossible once the soul expires, and the legends were bait created by Father to generate damaged alchemists who had entered the gate, so he could use them as materials.
If the soul is gone, all alchemy gets you is a trip through the gate, a slap on the wrist from Truth, and a pile of tortured meat (broken homonculus.) It wasn't that resurrection required a philosopher's stone, it was just impossible.
All human transmutation is actually good for is horrible biotinkering. You can make monsters, weaponize the gate, and fortify yourself with the screaming tortured souls of your enemies, but you can't bring back the dead.
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Technically is can be used for good biotinkering/healing, is just that most alchemist weren't good at it or had to rely on philosopher stones to do it, humans chimeras for example didn't really have drawbacks (the ones done well at least) except maybe some animal bits they couldn't hide, and while Marco had to use the Philosopher Stone (or at least kept using it to give free healing) he didn't screw it up.
But yes, the souls is the big nono.
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Since there's ton of people who know stuff about FMA, I'll ask: How the hell Victor - or anyone from Earth Bet really - will know that he needs to drag soul out of somewhere? And how this process even starts? As far as I am aware, the Truth shouldn't trigger if he just creates human body. Surely there must be some sort of additional step to try and get the soul out of the Gates, right?
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FMA alchemy has a mental component and the circle component. Ed and Al used their blood as a material guidepost and incorporated in their mental model and their circle that the blood was a connection to their mother.
There's a lot of soul stuff that comes up later, but in that first human transmutation in the story, that's it. Just, the circle/mental instructions say this material starting product equals Trisha Elric ending product. That was enough for Truth to step in and say "no it doesn't"
In this case Victor seems aware of the parahuman afterlife/shard copy theories. So we'll have to see what he does. Success or failure might all come down to whether his formula is for "a clone of my dead fiance connected to her shardspace brain copy" or "Lena Herren"
I really want Survey to just come up next chapter telling Joe that a group of Thinkers have been studying Alchemy, how much they understand, their secret identities, where they live and what they had for dinner last Friday.
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Survey: Tybalt recomended to implement the "Cat-apult to Glory" contingency against them before they, and I quote, "get made into violins for their curiosity"
Joe: ....Does this involve cat memes?
Survey: This involve sending them terabytes of what is popularly called cat memes, yes.
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If Victor does actually know the exact composition of a human he might be able to pull it off. The Sciences and information of our world are vastly ahead of FMA. There was even a theory if Edwardsslightly changed some things he might have been able to bring back his mom.
I primarily read this story on AO3, so I've already read Lord's WOG comment about how the price Victor will pay is a physical one, but I can't help but wonder...
We know that a shard acts as a soul trap for their host. We know the cycle has been going on for an almost unfathomable amount of time. We know that philosopher's stones are nothing more than trapped souls. Wouldn't it be interesting if the shards could use those trapped souls to act as pseudo-stones?
We know that a shard acts as a soul trap for their host. We know the cycle has been going on for an almost unfathomable amount of time. We know that philosopher's stones are nothing more than trapped souls. Wouldn't it be interesting if the shards could use those trapped souls to act as pseudo-stones?