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So does your modified plan avoid the whole exploding cities minor issue?
Paths of Civilization
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Wiadi
Uncompromising Radical Leftist
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[X][Marriage] From one of the Forhuch tribes to secure their loyalty
Action votes are a mess right now, gonna wait for things to consolidate a bit more before weighing in there, but like hell do I want us tied closer to the Storm Ymaryn.
Action votes are a mess right now, gonna wait for things to consolidate a bit more before weighing in there, but like hell do I want us tied closer to the Storm Ymaryn.
But... why? You are basically using a Player action to build the Dam, thereby the provinces from taking that action. Why would we trade a player Main away to gain a Province main?
ThrawnCA
Carbon-based biped
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Do you have objections to mass levy beyond the cost? Because there are plans on the table that can deal with that, but the plans that switch the levy off are all, IMO, woefully underpowered to rescue the Harmurri.
VoidZero
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Just FYI, province under mega support will do a dam action even if it causes starvation; apparently dam abandonment is worst.
So do check econ math if you are doing a plan.We have a genius martial and we have cavalry where the Highlanders do not. There is no way the Highlanders can hold the lowlands against us.
VoidZero
Passing Flan 布丁魔王
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Oh hey, that does consume econ expansion...only 3 per each, sadly, so the whole exploding cities thing isn't averted quite yet...we'd have to hope for a plant cash crops action in the midturn or a Gilded Age bonus that consumes EE and even then refunds will be an issue.
Anyone voting for Mass Levy:
Would you mind approval voting for War Mission - Highlanders x3?
Right now, the willing combination has us integrate Txolla at end-of-turn while sending only a single main War mission at the Highlanders. One more Secondary for the war isn't much, but it is something, and if you are voting Levy I imagine it is something you would prefer; no?
Would you mind approval voting for War Mission - Highlanders x3?
Right now, the willing combination has us integrate Txolla at end-of-turn while sending only a single main War mission at the Highlanders. One more Secondary for the war isn't much, but it is something, and if you are voting Levy I imagine it is something you would prefer; no?
ThrawnCA
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Haven't done all the math, but it should be much closer to saving them than integrating Txolla would be, since it uses Retraining instead.
But ultimately, I just think that restoring the cities later is pretty easy, compared to neutering the HK later. Remember, popping cities by having lots of Econ Expansion just means that people are going, Wow, look at all the open land! Let's get ourselves a piece of that! Not all that terrible really. I'm more concerned about Econ than Expansion, and it should handle that just fine.
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What's this referencing?
We still have Tech flowing into Wealth each phase, so I assume that the answer is definitely "yes".
Even without that, Double-Main Mills "only" cost 16 Wealth, and we are getting +7 Wealth from income, so that would put us at 25-16+7=16; that is indeed enough for Warships.
VoidZero
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"Just as planned" quote from Death Note. Where an ordinary guy seemingly played batman gambit on himself betting on his "goodness". The name of said anime should give you some idea to the nature of this ordinary guy.
Wiadi
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Storm Wolf who ate Western Ymaryn or new vessel Forhuch?
"Like hell I want X," in common parlance, means "I do not want X." Thus my statement parses as "I do not want us tied closer to the Storm Ymaryn, i.e. the hybrid of the Storm Wolves and the Western Ymaryn." Ergo I am voting for the alternative with the greatest chance of winning, which is also probably what I'd prefer in a vacuum anyway, as I'm no great fan of the Patricians either.
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- his hidden lair
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Two approaches are either:
1. Go full tilt, remove Highlanders.
2. Do several war missions, hope it is enough to remove them from Lowlands, leave alone otherwise.
Either has upsides. Voting is hard.
I...think that we can remove HK next time they get annoying. @Academia Nut , how much forces does Alyxohgodhowisitspelled think he needs to competely remove HK from the Lowlands? Will he need Levy for this part?
@PrimalShadow , I assume you are going with EJ because PG is more expensive?
Why not Main Enforce Justice for guaranteed Stability and secondary whatever?
Why do RO without PG even?
[X] [Main] Restore Order
[X] [Secondary] Switch Policy - Megaproject Support
[X] [Secondary] Palace Annex - Grand Hall
[X] [Secondary] War Mission - Highlanders
[X] [Secondary] War Mission - Highlanders x2
[X] [Secondary] War Mission - Highlanders x3
[X] [Secondary] Enforce Justice
[X] [Guild] Build Mills
[X] [Guild] Build Mills x2
[X] [Guild Secondary] Survey Lands
@Academia Nut
Assuming we take megaproject support and we don't spend any on a dam in King's Actions, we will only spend 2 econ by having a secondary action for dam doubled to a main action?
Assuming we take megaproject support and we don't spend any on a dam in King's Actions, we will only spend 2 econ by having a secondary action for dam doubled to a main action?
ThrawnCA
Carbon-based biped
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Plus Gilded Age income.
Could we try a Terrify if we switch off Mass Levy?
Their order trait should have procced already if they are really burning the candle on both ends. If not, losing their lowland territories and the religious upheavel should do a number on them.
Alyx reputation so far might give a serious bonus a well. Or we use Intrigue to open the gates.
@Academia Nut
What is Alyx opinion on those approaches? Is it likely to work or does he think it would be wasted effort?
Their order trait should have procced already if they are really burning the candle on both ends. If not, losing their lowland territories and the religious upheavel should do a number on them.
Alyx reputation so far might give a serious bonus a well. Or we use Intrigue to open the gates.
@Academia Nut
What is Alyx opinion on those approaches? Is it likely to work or does he think it would be wasted effort?
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- Australia
[X] [Main] Restore Order
[X] [Secondary] Switch Policy - Megaproject Support
[X] [Secondary] Palace Annex - Grand Hall
[X] [Secondary] War Mission - Highlanders
[X] [Secondary] War Mission - Highlanders x2
[X] [Secondary] War Mission - Highlanders x3
[X] [Secondary] Enforce Justice
[X] [Guild] Build Mills
[X] [Guild] Build Mills x2
[X] [Guild Secondary] Build Mills
[X][Marriage] From one of the Forhuch tribes to secure their loyalty
[X] [Secondary] Switch Policy - Megaproject Support
[X] [Secondary] Palace Annex - Grand Hall
[X] [Secondary] War Mission - Highlanders
[X] [Secondary] War Mission - Highlanders x2
[X] [Secondary] War Mission - Highlanders x3
[X] [Secondary] Enforce Justice
[X] [Guild] Build Mills
[X] [Guild] Build Mills x2
[X] [Guild Secondary] Build Mills
[X][Marriage] From one of the Forhuch tribes to secure their loyalty
ThrawnCA
Carbon-based biped
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Done. I really hope we send proper aid to the Harmurri.
Two requests concerning this vote, if you don't mind.
First, could you also approval vote for "[][Secondary] War mission - Highlanders x3"? That is the vote that is actually contested at the moment, so it could really use your help.
Second, would you object to swapping to a Main Restore Order and double secondary Great Dam actions? Right now, the RoO secondary is the runner-up for our 6th secondary despite us having a main RoO already - and that would drop our legitimacy to 2. We obviously don't want that.
My count included GA income. Our income of 12.5 from Salt and Trade and the -12 from Maintenance cancel out among themselves. That leaves the +4 from our Redshore Market (the only Market in a free city and thus the only Market standing), and +3 from GA, for a total of +7.