- Location
- Australia
Just saying he's right.
Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
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Just saying he's right.
- Location
- Australia
Indeed. We need the veekievote.
- Location
- Australia
the 20+ wealth stability
I must have missed that. Can you source that statement, please?
- Location
- Toronto, Ontario(occasionally)
I agree with your priorities and analysis, but want to go to bed soon,(after a couple of final things to look up and write down) and am increasingly loosing track of what all of the actions on the action table do and cost. (also have lost track of whether the dam actually unlocks the lowlands canal, or people just say it does)
Once you've voted would you be willing to tag me? Then I'll either vote the same or similarly once figuring out the mechanics of your vote.(and looking for word of AN on the lowlands canal.)
- Location
- Canada
Approval Voting Ho!
[X] [Main] Dam 4-6? action commitment, -2 Econ per action
[X] [Secondary] Great Hall Annex
[X] [Secondary] Great Hall Annex x2
[X] [Secondary] Expand Econ
[X] [Secondary] Expand Econ x2
[X] [Secondary] Influence Subordinate - Greenshore
[X] [Secondary] Build Roads
[X] [Secondary] Build Watchtowers
[X] [Secondary] Influence Subordinate - Tinriver
[X] [Guild] Plant Cotton
[X] [Guild] Expand Snail Cultivation
[X] [Guild] Expand Vineyard
[X] [Guild sec] Expand Snail Cultivation
[X] [Main] Dam 4-6? action commitment, -2 Econ per action
[X] [Secondary] Great Hall Annex
[X] [Secondary] Great Hall Annex x2
[X] [Secondary] Expand Econ
[X] [Secondary] Expand Econ x2
[X] [Secondary] Influence Subordinate - Greenshore
[X] [Secondary] Build Roads
[X] [Secondary] Build Watchtowers
[X] [Secondary] Influence Subordinate - Tinriver
[X] [Guild] Plant Cotton
[X] [Guild] Expand Snail Cultivation
[X] [Guild] Expand Vineyard
[X] [Guild sec] Expand Snail Cultivation
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Ahh.
Hmm.
Well, then in that case, it seems like I'd have to support delaying the Annex then. Preventing near future nomad war (and getting in on histories biggest trade route as early as possible), and pre-empting subordinate breakaway are both shorter term problems.
I kind of want to also fit in some degree of support for Amber Road, though. Can we have a Banner company swing by, perhaps?
I like this, in general. However, what would you think of trading the main guild Poppy for double main Snail (downgrading poppy to secondary)? This does admittedly produce 2 less wealth right now, and does not increase trading power in a non-dominating good, but we have invested relatively little into snail cultivation, and I suspect there are additional goods or other developments hiding in those waters. A double main would give the best odds we can hope for on that actually happening.[X][Main] Dam
[X][Secondary] Influence Subordinate - Tinriver Colony
[X][Secondary] Influence Subordinate - Tinriver Colony x2
[X][Secondary] Expand Econ
[X][Secondary] Expand Econ x2
[X][Secondary] Survey Lands
[X][Guild] Plant Poppy
[X][Guild] Snail Cultivation
[X][Guild Secondary] Snail Cultivation
Okay, but we have three turns to do so. Our Western Colonies are at 2 Loyalty. Greenshore has reason to stay with Ymaryn and we just talked to Western Wall. We should chat with Tinriver to at least ensure that they do not plan on running away soon.(Yes I meant Influence, I used those stat costs)
Okay, I can see us doing a Survey ourselves since our Policy is still on Balance and they can potentially do one and double it themselves to a Main. Either way leaves us with enough Economy to push a big chunk of the annexes next turn, if not all at once while still leaving us Econ to deal with whatever happens next turn.
I don't think it was explicitly stated, even though I believe it's correct.
- Location
- Hell
Yes, but staying between 10 and 20 means that we lose nor gain any stability.
Since we are already at 3, it is not as necessary as other things we have on our plate.
If I count it right, we're going to use up 16 econ with the winning "plan". Also, we're blindly pursuing wealth without considering the impact on labor requirement.
(2+2+2+2+4+3+1) =16 and we're starving.
- Location
- Hell
Read that wrong, still, it gives 9 and still loses point in Stability.
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- [] [Secondary] Change Policy: Forestry x2 -> Infrastructure x2
Number of voters: 1
@ctulhuslp
Care to standardize?
[6][Secondary] Change Policy - Passive (Forestry + Forestry -> Infrastructure + Infrastructure)
I'm sorry, but I really can't. When I complained about this during the last vote though, that is how it was explained to me, people pointing to the action descriptions and the fact that it's what our option for a react action rather than support subordinate.
I complained about the actions effectively lying heavily, but it wouldn't be the first time and it does make sense.
Basically Support Subordinate is to help a subordinate get on their feet when they have been raveged by plague or raided by nomads. Influence subordinate is to get them to act and believe themselves to be more like the core territories.
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- Location
- Australia
yes and my stance is that is that's not that hard to get 20 wealth if you take delegate land and you don't take influence subordinates. I understand everyone has their own goals this is just my opinion.
- Location
- Canada
The plan itself is not going to win so I'm voting for what I want to see done.
Here are your econ costs:
{M} Dam: 2
{S}+{S} Annex: 4
{S} Influence: 2
{M} Cotton: 4
{M} Vineyard: 3
{S} Snails: 1
Total: 16
Available: 2
Result: Famine
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- Location
- Canada
- Location
- Hell
@bluefur87 I wish you luck in pushing the plan as I have go back to work o7
- Location
- The Deep Blue Sea
Lol priests can go eat a mound of black soil apparently