It adds another vote and another voice that favours war. It reinforces the idea that we should focus on war by founding a war-focused province, as opposed to founding a trade-focused Trading Post. It's one more large set of people who solve an unsettlingly large amount of their problems with violence, which bodes ill if we start doing things they don't like. (Tax reform comes to mind.) It's one more voice that kicks up a stink when we get a Hero that happens to be a woman.
Crow mother: "Honestly when are you going to marry?."
If we take the Saltern like Citino said that's -4 Econ. Makes the +Econ from this 4 or 6, which puts us at 15 or 17 Econ meaning our QoO Martial will be {15 or 16}. However the overflow from the Econ into our other stats is either +1 or +3. If +1 then Martial does not go up. If it is +3 then Mysticism gets +3 and fills up to 14 without going to Martial at all if I read the stat sheet correctly.
You're forgetting -4 Econ for saltern, as said, and ALSO forgetting that we lose 2 diplo due to diplo annex. So we wouldn't have any overflow into martial next turn. We would be at 14 Econ, which means we'd be at partial overflow of martial, i.e. at 10{15}
Considering their votes for war would always keep in mind that they live near the nomads, I don't really think they will be advocating that we go to war with other groups a lot. More likely, their vote will be 'oh shit, guys, no, we could have a waagh while you guys fuck around in the lowlands, don't go to war!!!'
Funny, but not quite like that.
Untrue, it is because of portability issues that we can't connect snake river to the marches.
Huh? I thought we could travel the rivers into the STs? It said that we resupplied them by boat during the nomad invasion...
Ok, so I think it's not really a benefit to reaching our already claimed land? We can already travel the river to where we have settlements, so portability sounds great if we want to expand further. I'd say do a size increase and then do portability. Get the logistics down, then use that increase in supplies to settle and explore further.
So we can be the Not!Georgian/Israeli/Greek/Welsh/South American/Elf/Dwarf/Vikings?
That is exactly it.
@Academia Nut I think I know what happened to the Hathatyn. They had started some sort of forestry project (possibly turning forest into vineyards) when the drought hit. Without our irrigation or Black Soil, them messing with the forest caused the soil to critically weaken and their trees to dry out. After that, all it took was one spark. A massive wildfire swept their hills, causing devastation and panic. Just when that had passed though, the burned out debris caused debris flows (Landslides triggered by the weight of burned trees). They might have survived that, though it wouldn't have been pretty, but then they got hit by a third disaster: Floods. The debris blocked the natural waterpaths from the snowy mountains, especially that main river that they would have naturally built near. All of a sudden, their cities and fields were becoming lakes, causing mass displacement and starvation, and leaving only their worst farmland to try to feed people. And then, just to cap it off, they would have been hit by yet another round of mudslides as the root system that was left rotted and got waterlogged from the flooding, sending even more mud cascades into the valleys. Worse, if they don't move right now, they're in for a nasty round of diseases as that whole mess rots and breeds vermin, mold, and bacteria.
I am so glad we focused on making sure Nature could not bitch at us early.
