But back to our more immediate problems:
We do mit have Grand Sacrifice anymore.

This makes any stability problems we have far, dar worse than they recently had been.
That's part of what made me pick the Improve Festival for next turn. We need a buffer because it takes time to raise.
 
If we do Main Expand Econ, and a secondary that uses econ, we should exactly recycle the generated econ slots into Econ. That might be worth doing.

Or maybe Main Improve Festival and secondary expand econ. We'll get closer to the limit on our city, but also closer to golden age (with it's free expand econ.)
Might I suggest keeping the Study Stars going? That's gonna keep Mysticism from being a problem, long enough for Diplo to begin to super overflow(which is admittedly not a long time at all), and keep the chain going long enough to start breaking new ground.

I mean yeah next turn it's not really gonna be a problem what with having something like 17(+3 additional on the midturn) Diplo and so 11 + 6 Art on the next Main turn to give... +3 Mysticism. One turn of Study Stars to see if anything happens when we get to 4/4 again and to counter costs seems good and then we can drop it for the second Main turn. Not to stuck on this one though.

How long we need to keep it going to keep Myst from dropping is based on timing of Overflow payout I guess. But ehh we have seven turn buffer (like 140ish years).

Though I do think I know how the Xoh are feeding their economy now...

Holy shit. Our Overflow Engine just got fed rocket fuel.

You know? I've yet to see puppies. Here, have a picture of mine. He said a little old though.
Is a Puppers! Cute.
 
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[X] [Temple] Crow
[X] [Crow] Alien but knowable
[X] [Boats] Not the boats, but where they are made
[x] [Drought] Weed out troublemakers (Main Restore Order)
[X] [CA] Bring in whoever comes (Chance of stability loss, +2 Econ)
 
If we do Main Expand Econ, and a secondary that uses econ, we should exactly recycle the generated econ slots into Econ. That might be worth doing.

Or maybe Main Improve Festival and secondary expand econ. We'll get closer to the limit on our city, but also closer to golden age (with its free expand econ.)

Edit: I'm going the second for now.
[Main] Improve Festival
[Secondary] Expand Economy
[Secondary] Change Policy (Megaproject Support)

With our provinces doing:
3x [Main] Grand Temple

We don't really need to do the expand economy so long as we do wither a vineyard or a expand forest. They also reduce the available Econ slots. Not by much, but by enough.
 
[X] [Temple] Crow

Maybe, the choice influences what kind of bonus the Temple will give. Mathulmyn is likely an aid to stability or maybe gives centralization or raises legitimacy giving legitimacy to the king. Crow is the most likely to be a Mysticism generator due to his nature as a trickster and Mysticism is what we need right now. If we want a temple to Mathulmyn it would be better either way to build it in the capital, not in Sacred Forest.

[X] [Crow] Alien but knowable

Is likely to synergize with LoW and could result in theology.

[X] [Boats] Not the boats, but where they are made

The others are good but this is likely the best. Beyond the possible shipyard, there is also the fact that it would result eventually in creating and boosting engineering. We don't even have pulleys right now.

[X] [Drought] Weed out troublemakers (Main Restore Order)

self-explanatory

[X] [CA] Bring in whoever comes (Chance of stability loss, +2 Econ)
 
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We don't really need to do the expand economy so long as we do wither a vineyard or a expand forest. They also reduce the available Econ slots. Not by much, but by enough.
I'd be good with secondary Expand Forests. They'll trickle feed our charcoal and provide an ever increasing passive defense against TH predations, though frankly the HK are holding up surprisingly well. I think they have been cribing notes off of us how to fight nomad/nomad like forces. Good students!

[X] [Temple] Crow

Maybe, the choice influences what kind of bonus the Temple will give. Mathulmyn is likely an aid to stability or maybe gives centralization or raises legitimacy giving legitimacy to the king. Crow is the most likely to be a Mysticism generator due to his nature as a trickster and Mysticism is what we need right now. If we want a temple to Mathulmyn it would be better either way to build it in the capital, not in Sacred Forest.

[X] [Crow] Alien but knowable

Is likely to synergize with LoW and could result in theology.

[X] [Boats] Not the boats, but where they are made

The others are good but this is likely the best. Beyond the possible shipyard, there is also the fact that it would result eventually in creating and boosting engineering. We don't even have pulleys right now.

[X] [Drought] Weed out troublemakers (Main Restore Order)

self-explanatory
Not voting for our CA response, or did you forget?
Adhoc vote count started by BungieONI on Jun 1, 2017 at 2:53 AM, finished with 44632 posts and 85 votes.
 
Expand Economy and Expand Forest together seems okay, although Improve Festival might be more apropros given the new vineyard.
 
Expand Economy and Expand Forest together seems okay, although Improve Festival might be more apropros given the new vineyard.
I want Festivals cause down that way lies calendars and other useful time keeping techniques that are quality of life improvements for our clerks. Who I imagine must feel like this a lot of the time.

 
Festivals = calendars? How do you figure?
Currently we do festivals by the season. The season is our most basic method of keeping track of longer times. But when you improve festivals you can sometimes realize the need to put a new festival somewhere between two other festivals. But how do you keep track of when it is, if it is right between two of them? Your seasonal timekeeping won't work and when to have it might get confused, so you start developing ways to keep track of time other than seasonally. It's too advanced but one idea is to come up with months for example. From this divvying up of the year you get a calendar.

Honestly though I am not the best one to explain this. Try asking around maybe? Maybe poke AN?
 
I want Festivals cause down that way lies calendars and other useful time keeping techniques that are quality of life improvements for our clerks. Who I imagine must feel like this a lot of the time.
Pretty sure Study Stars is how we get Calendars. Note how we actually can't make more festivals anymore, instead we just improve our existing ones.
 
But your clockwork god CAN'T be your primary prayer-intervention god. They undermine each other.
Judaism, Christianity, and Islam all have the single god doing everything. And each has cultures that provided major scientific advancements.
Adhoc vote count started by Killer_Whale on Jun 1, 2017 at 3:27 AM, finished with 44648 posts and 86 votes.
 
Pretty sure Study Stars is how we get Calendars. Note how we actually can't make more festivals anymore, instead we just improve our existing ones.
I mean I think it could happen through the scenario I outlined above, but *shrug* Study Stars and Place to the Stars will work along the same path. Just slinging ideas out here when I think them plausible.
 
This is more of a long term thought, but have we considered eating up econ expansion so we can safely build new settlements? Sure, they'll require walls and trails beyond the initial investment and decrease centralization. However, we'll probably get a new province out of it and an additional province action which can help patch up holes in our stats.
 
That honestly sounds like a variation on Teacher Crow that got spun off and split three ways again. Huh. Neat.

Also on naked vs not naked. Hehehehehehehe. Gods that's hilarious. I'd be totally for naked version though, how about you @Omegahugger? Want our chief Farming lady to be a naked earth goddess? :ogles:

Pfft. I can't take myself seriously. I just can't. Not with this! :rofl::rofl::rofl:
Good gracious, what kind of pervert do you think I am? Who wants to work in the fields naked? I mean sure, such a being could adequately be described as a God, but I don't think we should put such lofty ideals into our people.
Plus, having too many naked Gods will surely turn us in a Greek-like direction, and while they might be a nation of shippers they also got up to some dickish things.

Now, for my own vote:
[X] [Temple] Gwy and Gyo
Sure, Crow is a great guy, but think about it. What are Gwy and Goya?
Two intersex Spirits eternally bound in a hentai scene?
No! Or well, yes, but that's not the point that I wanted to make.

Gwy and Goya are the modern remnants of Gwygoytha, AKA the most magical thing ever. By making them part of our Pantheon, we are securing the unstoppable pelviscrushing force of nature a place in our society. And really, don't we all want that?

In addition, Gwy and Goya are not just based on Gwygoytha, they are in fact a combination of Gwygoytha and Buutah. You know, my OTPthe couple that through sheer mystical power convinced our people that, if two magical girls love each other very much, they can have a baby. In fact, since we know that having traits of both male and female is a sign of having great mystical power, Gwy and Goya might actually be the greatest of all our gods in terms of pure power.
(Though Demon God Crow would still win in a fight because he's smarter than all of them.)

And for all you perverts out there, this would put ceiling-Crow above a couple that's entirely known for
A: Copulating
B: The one time they tried something other than copulating, failing so hard they needed help from beyond existance getting out of it.

[X] [Crow] Benevolent
Crow is a good guy. That is what separates him from the others and makes him the Demon-God.
 
Good gracious, what kind of pervert do you think I am? Who wants to work in the fields naked? I mean sure, such a being could adequately be described as a God, but I don't think we should put such lofty ideals into our people.
Plus, having too many naked Gods will surely turn us in a Greek-like direction, and while they might be a nation of shippers they also got up to some dickish things.

Now, for my own vote:
[X] [Temple] Gwy and Gyo
Sure, Crow is a great guy, but think about it. What are Gwy and Goya?
Two intersex Spirits eternally bound in a hentai scene?
No! Or well, yes, but that's not the point that I wanted to make.

Gwy and Goya are the modern remnants of Gwygoytha, AKA the most magical thing ever. By making them part of our Pantheon, we are securing the unstoppable pelviscrushing force of nature a place in our society. And really, don't we all want that?

In addition, Gwy and Goya are not just based on Gwygoytha, they are in fact a combination of Gwygoytha and Buutah. You know, my OTPthe couple that through sheer mystical power convinced our people that, if two magical girls love each other very much, they can have a baby. In fact, since we know that having traits of both male and female is a sign of having great mystical power, Gwy and Goya might actually be the greatest of all our gods in terms of pure power.
(Though Demon God Crow would still win in a fight because he's smarter than all of them.)

And for all you perverts out there, this would put ceiling-Crow above a couple that's entirely known for
A: Copulating
B: The one time they tried something other than copulating, failing so hard they needed help from beyond existance getting out of it.

[X] [Crow] Benevolent
Crow is a good guy. That is what separates him from the others and makes him the Demon-God.
Oh gods...

Perfect. Just perfect. *claps vigorously*

*Ceiling Crow watches you masturbate* Heh.
Adhoc vote count started by BungieONI on Jun 1, 2017 at 3:18 AM, finished with 44647 posts and 86 votes.
 
I like Gwy and Goya just fine, but I don't think there's any hope for them to end up taking first place.
 
Judaism, Christianity, and Islam all have the single god doing everything. And each has cultures that provided major scientific advancements.
Yes. But none of them HAVE a clockwork god. None of them have a god that is "alien, but knowable", or that represents nature.
 
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