Paths of Civilization
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Crazy7s1
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[X] Send an envoy to request the Thunder Speakers rein in youths (-2 Diplomacy, chance of TS king actually complying, small chance of triggering war)
[X] Support son (Chance of -1 Legitimacy, heir becomes Yehlmyn [Mediocre Martial, Good Diplomacy, Heroic Admin])
[X] Support son (Chance of -1 Legitimacy, heir becomes Yehlmyn [Mediocre Martial, Good Diplomacy, Heroic Admin])
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- Location
- United States
- Location
- Madness realms
[X] Support son (-1 Legitimacy, heir becomes Yehlmyn [Mediocre Martial, Good Diplomacy, Heroic Admin])
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- He/Him
Basically the issue is that he is such a good candidate that even going "I'm recusing myself to avoid bias" makes everyone go "Huh, must be something wrong with him we haven't seen, there is literally no reason other than him being her son not to vote for him".
[X] Send an envoy to request the Thunder Speakers rein in youths (-2 Diplomacy, chance of TS king actually complying, small chance of triggering war)
[X] Support son (-1 Legitimacy, heir becomes Yehlmyn [Mediocre Martial, Good Diplomacy, Heroic Admin])
So, the war is probably happening next turn anyway and a chance to delay it here (and maybe get a relationship with the current rulers) seems like a no loss situation... unless we DO want war. There is a consideration to be made for us helping the Priests and pulling them into the fold after all this is done. We're very close to true city in Valleyhome and (i assume) the next era, so theres potential for a power play there.
As for the son support, this isn't the first time we've had the child of a ruler becoming a ruler but it mostly happens as small mentions in the background. The last time we fought against this was that fellow trying to push his chariot rider son for kingship on the grounds of nepotism and martial focus. However in this case the potential successor already has a shot at the throne and is actually competent, if you push back on that every time you're going to see competent people passed up for Ruler just because their parent used to have it, which is unfortunate.
In any case, Heroic Admin is pretty swell and we got a chain going here. One generation of familial succession shouldn't be a problem when we spent most of the current Kings era and the past few centuries pushing against it.
[X] Support son (-1 Legitimacy, heir becomes Yehlmyn [Mediocre Martial, Good Diplomacy, Heroic Admin])
So, the war is probably happening next turn anyway and a chance to delay it here (and maybe get a relationship with the current rulers) seems like a no loss situation... unless we DO want war. There is a consideration to be made for us helping the Priests and pulling them into the fold after all this is done. We're very close to true city in Valleyhome and (i assume) the next era, so theres potential for a power play there.
As for the son support, this isn't the first time we've had the child of a ruler becoming a ruler but it mostly happens as small mentions in the background. The last time we fought against this was that fellow trying to push his chariot rider son for kingship on the grounds of nepotism and martial focus. However in this case the potential successor already has a shot at the throne and is actually competent, if you push back on that every time you're going to see competent people passed up for Ruler just because their parent used to have it, which is unfortunate.
In any case, Heroic Admin is pretty swell and we got a chain going here. One generation of familial succession shouldn't be a problem when we spent most of the current Kings era and the past few centuries pushing against it.
Ancient Scholar
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- Location
- United States
[X] Send an envoy to request the Thunder Speakers rein in youths (-2 Diplomacy, chance of TS king actually complying, small chance of triggering war)
[X] Remain quiet (Next king is probably standard)
No Heroic means we can do things our way.
[X] Remain quiet (Next king is probably standard)
No Heroic means we can do things our way.
- Location
- his hidden lair
[X] Send an envoy to request the Thunder Speakers rein in youths (-2 Diplomacy, chance of TS king actually complying, small chance of triggering war)
[X] Remain quiet (Next king is probably standard)
'Guys let's totally do hereditary after we've nearly instigated civil war over it! Let's put the mediocre martial hero into power when we're looking at a potential massive war for hegemony over the Lowlands'
Fuck. That.
[X] Remain quiet (Next king is probably standard)
'Guys let's totally do hereditary after we've nearly instigated civil war over it! Let's put the mediocre martial hero into power when we're looking at a potential massive war for hegemony over the Lowlands'
Fuck. That.
- Location
- Asia
It isn't nepotism. It just looks like nepotism. The son is legitimately the best candidate available. If Maggie wanted solidify her family's rule, she could have done it last turn when she had a much better opportunity.
Once he comes to power, the people will realise how much better he is than the other candidates. Plus I don't want to make the same mistake we made with Gwygowtha's son.
[X] Send an envoy to request the Thunder Speakers rein in youths (-2 Diplomacy, chance of TS king actually complying, small chance of triggering war)
[X] Support son (-1 Legitimacy, heir becomes Yehlmyn [Mediocre Martial, Good Diplomacy, Heroic Admin])
Once he comes to power, the people will realise how much better he is than the other candidates. Plus I don't want to make the same mistake we made with Gwygowtha's son.
[X] Send an envoy to request the Thunder Speakers rein in youths (-2 Diplomacy, chance of TS king actually complying, small chance of triggering war)
[X] Support son (-1 Legitimacy, heir becomes Yehlmyn [Mediocre Martial, Good Diplomacy, Heroic Admin])
- Location
- United States
[X] Send an envoy to request the Thunder Speakers rein in youths (-2 Diplomacy, chance of TS king actually complying, small chance of triggering war)
[X] Support son (-1 Legitimacy, heir becomes Yehlmyn [Mediocre Martial, Good Diplomacy, Heroic Admin])
AN's post made me more confident in choosing him. Though i'm a bit wary of having a repeat of our civ wanting more heroes because they got used to them.
[X] Support son (-1 Legitimacy, heir becomes Yehlmyn [Mediocre Martial, Good Diplomacy, Heroic Admin])
AN's post made me more confident in choosing him. Though i'm a bit wary of having a repeat of our civ wanting more heroes because they got used to them.
- Location
- Simi Valley, CA, United States
[x] Send an envoy to request the Thunder Speakers rein in youths (-2 Diplomacy, chance of TS king actually complying, small chance of triggering war)
[x] Support son (-1 Legitimacy, heir becomes Yehlmyn [Mediocre Martial, Good Diplomacy, Heroic Admin])w
I' m a simple man: I see a hero, I vote for it.
[x] Support son (-1 Legitimacy, heir becomes Yehlmyn [Mediocre Martial, Good Diplomacy, Heroic Admin])w
I' m a simple man: I see a hero, I vote for it.
- Location
- United States
Remember that our current king/queen has poor martial. Instead of taking the reins, she gave control to the war chief (which the son can do as well).
[X] Send an envoy to request the Thunder Speakers rein in youths (-2 Diplomacy, chance of TS king actually complying, small chance of triggering war)
[X] Remain quiet (Next king is probably standard)
Electing him would still push towards hereditary leadership, this time with the added benefit of pissing off the Stallion tribes! Quite rightfully so.
Also, never get involved in a war where you don't hold the winning hand unless you have to.
[X] Remain quiet (Next king is probably standard)
Electing him would still push towards hereditary leadership, this time with the added benefit of pissing off the Stallion tribes! Quite rightfully so.
Also, never get involved in a war where you don't hold the winning hand unless you have to.
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
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- Lickwidget
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- She/Her
And almost certainly would if he was elected.
@Academia Nut Can we basically tell him that it's a test? That if he wants to inherit, he has to prove himself like we did and take the position by leveraging his charm and intelligence? I kind of want to unleash someone Heroic on our society and see what they do with it...
- Location
- his hidden lair
Except it's at least as much emphasis on hereditary as the advice we spurned. There's a reason it undermines the Legitimacy of the Elective Monarchy.
- Location
- Canada
[X] Send an envoy to request the Thunder Speakers rein in youths (-2 Diplomacy, chance of TS king actually complying, small chance of triggering war)
[X] Remain quiet (Next king is probably standard)
Yeah dude is too weak on martial matters for my liking...leaning towards a standard or a March leader for once. Plus I don't want us losing legitimacy thus reducing our overall Stability.
[X] Remain quiet (Next king is probably standard)
Yeah dude is too weak on martial matters for my liking...leaning towards a standard or a March leader for once. Plus I don't want us losing legitimacy thus reducing our overall Stability.
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
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- Lickwidget
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Always cheat first, second and third in war.
Only right way to do it.
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
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No! No! And NO!
AN does NOT take write ins and suggesting them is something that can end poorly for the players.
Sorry but pet peeve of AN players.
And look, we have someone who is heroic in admin to handle our admin concerns, likely ending up as the admin adviser!