hy is it happening in the first place
Mechanically, it's because of the caretakers of the land trait chain. Narratively, it's because we discovered that trees prevent erosion, and erosion was silting up the rivers we and our friends on the coast depended on. Blight was killing the trees and letting the soil wash away. So we developed a system that combats blight constantly.
And since we have taken care of the forest, it takes care of us, and all who shelter under our aegis. We are the generous and pious faeries of the wood, and we take in all.
 
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Yep. Stability can always be restored, thus nobody fucking bothers to boost it before getting caught with pants down, despite all the ways of it being handy when in trouble.
Which is so fucking stupid it boggles.

Grand Sacrifice is a great tool since it can be used at any Stability level, has a cap of our Legitimacy and grants at least some stability.

It's valid usage area is from -3 to 2 Stability. Maining it is most efficient but using it as a secondary to increment up our Stability when we can is something I would not be opposed to.
 
I understand that AN wanted to avoid providing hard numbers for our stability, and you can certainly see why he would want to do so.
 
I understand that AN wanted to avoid providing hard numbers for our stability, and you can certainly see why he would want to do so.

The thing is that we keep spending and raising stability like yo-yo to pay for everything from innovation rolls to LoO.

Seriously, we kept using LoO repeatedly because other civilizations aren't nearly as stable as we are.
 
Is it possible for stability to rise and fall naturally?
We took a stability hit from that most recent comet, IIRC, and the phrasing of A Greater Good implies there's sources of stability loss other than decisions on our part.

Don't know if there are naturally occurring ways to gain stability; I wouldn't be surprised if there were, but they were gated behind a tech we don't have.
 
Fire runs the risk of burning down trees, Omegahugger does not approve.
...But we do burn our trees. It makes them stronger. Well, it makes the next trees stronger.

I think the Grand Sacrifice option is pretty powerful. As long as we have Econ to sacrifice for stability, we should be okay.

You have my support!

Metal Ho!
My original desire for this turn was main expand warriors, secondary study metal, secondary annual festival. Then I saw that corruption was still on going and decided to address that issue first.

I don't like all this preoccupation with Stability, TBH.

I understand that AN wanted to avoid providing hard numbers for our stability, and you can certainly see why he would want to do so.
Err, I'm pretty sure that the reason we didn't have it was because it never changed. Then AN talked about it shortly before we'd get an event to change it and boom, new stat. Then we got our intake of nomads which gave us Land of Opportunity and we've been in massive flux ever since.

Anyways, on to something I think should be pointed out.
Metal working
[] Turn discovery over to artisans (-3 Art, tech-upgrade)
[] Keep discovery among shamans (Allows further work to be done)
It's likely that actually taking metal working as a tech is going to dump our art score rather hard. So we should heavily consider upping it alongside study metal. There might be some synergy there? Enough so that I would believe it personally but not actually espouse it as likely. Unfortunately we need to main art to get potential innovations.
 
We took a stability hit from that most recent comet, IIRC, and the phrasing of A Greater Good implies there's sources of stability loss other than decisions on our part.

Don't know if there are naturally occurring ways to gain stability; I wouldn't be surprised if there were, but they were gated behind a tech we don't have.
Naturally? Maybe if we maintain it at around +2 we can get a positive feed back loop.
 
To be fair, we are actually an incredibly flexible civ due to LoO. I suspect that most other groups don't quite have the same level of fluctuation we have from LoO, and most of their stability drops comes from choices about their civ itself (changing writing, leadership problems, etc...). Our people are constantly adjusting to major changes brought in from the outside world, which is a big part of why our stability changes so fast.

But it has the good effect of making our people more open to changes, and much more flexible about a lot of ideas that others most likely struggle to adopt.
 
We took a stability hit from that most recent comet, IIRC, and the phrasing of A Greater Good implies there's sources of stability loss other than decisions on our part.

Don't know if there are naturally occurring ways to gain stability; I wouldn't be surprised if there were, but they were gated behind a tech we don't have.
Hmm, possible areas for tech.
  • Police
  • Art
  • Advanced Traits, maybe spiritual?
I personally suspect Honor insulates us from a large amount of corruption, on a related note. So, it would probably be best if we stopped avoiding it like the plague. ;)
 
We have been playing for....six hundred years? That's approaching the longest lasting dynasty in ancient China.

The Ymrri don't have dynasties per se, but the chain of government is essentially unbroken for that long.
 
It's been pointed out before that better pottery kilns and smelting use very similar techniques, though I'd have to go looking for the quote.

I'd be perfectly willing to try that, if we haven't run out of economic expansion room yet.

Edit: Ah, here it is.
So, a dedicated to metal working synergy turn would look something like.
[Main] Art Patronage
[Secondary] Study Metal
[Secondary] Study Health

We would stand a decent chance to gain art that is related to metal working and the study health could help identify/address the concerns of said metal working, thus allowing us to more easily deal with it.
 
So, a dedicated to metal working synergy turn would look something like.
[Main] Art Patronage
[Secondary] Study Metal
[Secondary] Study Health

We would stand a decent chance to gain art that is related to metal working and the study health could help identify/address the concerns of said metal working, thus allowing us to more easily deal with it.

That's -2 Mysticism. Study the stars so we have a calendar so we can backdate the years and keep track of how old we are. Though the early years are definitely legendary to semi-legendary.
 
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