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[Jk] Take an Earth Dome seal...
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rational rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
[Jk] Take an Earth Dome seal...
I did not feel welcomed by this answer
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This is kind of my entire point.
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Honestly instead of trying to figure out armor seals we should just research force wall shields and pair them with CATEARS. Wouldn't be perfect since it does cost some action economy. But since we already have all the tech trees should be an easy project
[X] Use a Kunai to scratch a line through the Leaf symbol on our forehead protector, then do the same for our old Mist forehead protector, and wear both at once to flex on all the other missing-nin
Another prep day worthy idea. I should compile a list for when we can research again....
This will probably take a lot of research projects to shape every piece unless the QMs let us get away with "shape defined at infusion", which I suspect is unlikely. Still worth it.
The bigger issues are the sharpness and plate alignment. We need the plates to not be sharp enough to shred us if anything goes slightly wrong, and we need a way to make them stack/connect neatly, which may be difficult when the plan it to just activate them all at once via CATEARS.
If we can't research "thicker force wall" we could perhaps make due with air walls.
If we can't get instant-deploying armour right, we could take 10min to don it piece-by-piece in advance.
Also, I have significant fondness for the "hampseter ball" plan as an intermediate measure. A perfect force sphere to keep everything out. We can still move while wearing it due to skywalkers. While it neuters everyone but Mari's offence, it's an incredible emergency option, and gives Mari an Essie trick. It also synergises well with summoners and SC users.
"Wait that sounds really strong, why wouldn't leaf Essies invent it before?"
Pre-skywalkers, it would have left the user immobile and basically imprisoned.
It wouldn't be good enough to mass-distribute(and have quickly stolen), and wouldn't perticularly suit the needs of leaf's Essies sealmasters(except perhaps Oro, who is unlikely to share secrets of his personal survival kit).
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I actually meant for this to be a lot simpler than what your imagining. More Shield than
Mage Armor. Basically I'm just imagining getting a box or cube of force walls to pop up for a second
Sounds good, I'm very much for projects in this vein(see: hampseter ball).
I still have ambitions of turning all that force wall veterancy into force plate armour, but that's quite long-term.
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Chapter 666, Part 1 has been revised to account for the continuity error spotted by @roobee. The new version reads:
"I apologise," Snowflake said. "As I have yet to secure permission from the Polemarch to exist upon the Seventh Path in an independent capacity, my opportunities to perform actions other than brooding are limited, and so I am ever refining the art whether I will it or not."
"What do you mean?"
"Human beings may only enter the Human Path via a contract," Snowflake explained. "This law is not recorded anywhere as far as I am aware, but considering even summoners are tolerated only for the benefits they bring the clan, we believe it would be taken for granted. As I lack such a contract, and have yet to earn Pantsā's approval, a single misstep on my part, including the tiniest conflict with a representative of the Holy Pangolin Empire, could lead to my formal exclusion–in which case Kei would be denied the use of the Shadow Clone Technique. She is already denied the Frozen Skein, and I cannot have her survival tools whittled down further. Thus, on the Seventh Path, I must constrain my activities to those acceptable for a temporary ninjutsu effect."
"I apologise," Snowflake said. "As I have yet to secure permission from the Polemarch to exist upon the Seventh Path in an independent capacity, my opportunities to perform actions other than brooding are limited, and so I am ever refining the art whether I will it or not."
"What do you mean?"
"Human beings may only enter the Human Path via a contract," Snowflake explained. "This law is not recorded anywhere as far as I am aware, but considering even summoners are tolerated only for the benefits they bring the clan, we believe it would be taken for granted. As I lack such a contract, and have yet to earn Pantsā's approval, a single misstep on my part, including the tiniest conflict with a representative of the Holy Pangolin Empire, could lead to my formal exclusion–in which case Kei would be denied the use of the Shadow Clone Technique. She is already denied the Frozen Skein, and I cannot have her survival tools whittled down further. Thus, on the Seventh Path, I must constrain my activities to those acceptable for a temporary ninjutsu effect."
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@Paperclipped @eaglejarl @Velorien
There has been some discussion on discord on whether researching Banshee Fuckers will produce partially functional version of the seal on research infusion day. This would be quite problematic, since setting off one of those would not be conducive to hiding.
In Hazō's opinion, would researching Banshee Fucker likely lead to producing very audible effects on research infusions days?
There has been some discussion on discord on whether researching Banshee Fuckers will produce partially functional version of the seal on research infusion day. This would be quite problematic, since setting off one of those would not be conducive to hiding.
In Hazō's opinion, would researching Banshee Fucker likely lead to producing very audible effects on research infusions days?
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And a more general question, do we need to worry about simulationist effects from sealing research like this? Will prototype Banshee Fuckers broadcast our position? Will prototype HOWS be spotted by skywalking ninja? Would a prototype Instantly Explode All The Chakra rune cause unfortunate yet predictable consequences to Hazo et al?
Assuming we do not fail any rolls at any point during research and we also do not instruct Hazo to activate a completed seal/rune.
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Just to note that actually Jiraiya's force emitter seals seem like they basically do most of this already, just with a pulse of force rather than a very shortly lived shield construct.
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In the original version, Snowflake inaccurately claims that Pantsaa is not yet aware of her as a human being, and she should therefore avoid bringing herself to his attention.
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Has anybody tried to reverse engineer the rules for some of the board games in MfD, e.g. Strategic Dominance or Sealing Failure?
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How would you go about doing this?
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Almost certainly there is insufficient detail. I would be very surprised if the QMs sorted out the rules with any sort of vigor, especially if they then sat on that instead of showing off the cool thing they did.
Any attempt to reconstruct the rules would just be confabulating them.
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Simulationism says yes. It's impossible to know for sure that your seal is functioning as intended without activating it at least briefly, nor would any ninja be foolish enough to wait until a situation with stakes before testing out a new seal for the first time.
Most, if not all, MfDverse board games are adaptations of real-world ones. Occasionally, a player will correctly guess one and receive much kudos.
Can you elaborate a little? Some disagreement ensued about whether you meant that yes, a finished seal would be tested and create notable noise at the end of the research process, or that yes, various prototypes would create notable noise at uncertain points during the research process.
pinging also @eaglejarl @Paperclipped
This wasn't the case for explosive runes. Hazou was confident he'd completed research without ever activating the rune. So is this a rules difference between runes and seals?
Also I think the major concern was for the intermediate prototypes that aren't yet stable seals, can we expect them to make sounds on the level of a BF?
My understanding is that they cause "minor failures" somewhat related to but not necessarily the same as a BF
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Hmm. Is it just the final version of the seal/rune that will have effects? Or will the prototypes leading up to that final seal/rune also have simulationist effects that we need be concerned about?
I ask because this is sort of a weird edge case. Seal stuff and research is explicitly black boxed in many respects, but that could be at odds with proper planning if we have to be concerned about simulationist effects from researching.
For instance, if we research a Banshee Fucker rune, and during that Hazo makes a functional prototype at 1% power, that's still like a 190dB sound. That'd broadcast our position, and we'd have to move. So we'd have to know if this is a thing that happens during research and plan for the move. And so we have to start looking inside the black box...
Am I describing the issue well?
Oh, good point! That possibility hadn't occurred to me. I'm definitely tempted to go back and try to figure out some of the board games now.
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TFW Hazō accidentally creates a singing BF
