We could ask him about the Five. Pantsaa noticed when Kei reached for the Mori Voice, and it startled him.

Maybe it would be best to leave Pantsaa's name out of it, but the principle of the thing might hold.

If infusing Sealing is harmful to the underpinnings of the 7th Path, maybe a Bloodline Five Ninja activating their bloodline (and thus reaching out to their Sealed Entity), does the same?
 
We could ask him about the Five. Pantsaa noticed when Kei reached for the Mori Voice, and it startled him.

Maybe it would be best to leave Pantsaa's name out of it, but the principle of the thing might hold.

If infusing Sealing is harmful to the underpinnings of the 7th Path, maybe a Bloodline Five Ninja activating their bloodline (and thus reaching out to their Sealed Entity), does the same?
That and the Sage's companions, perhaps.
[Jk] Lick Kamehameha's ear
[X] Sacrifice Kamehameha's ear to Lord Jashin
 
"I'll, uh, I'll just be going," the messenger said. "Um...was he serious about you destroying the world?"

"Of course not," Hazō said. "We'd never do that. We couldn't do that."

Kagome-sensei frowned in confusion. "Sure we could. All it would need is a retrotemporal rift that detonated at the Kamimoot where they decided to create the world."
Just a reminder to everyone that we learned about the Kamimoot before!
THE POWER OF THESE BEINGS ROILED, CREATING AND DESTROYING AT RANDOM. IT WOULD FORM INTO EDDIES AND SNARLS, MUCH AS DID THE DUST UNDER OUR LAST-BUT-THREE SUMMONER'S BED. 'DUST BUNNIES', AS SHE CALLED THEM, CAUSE NOTHING MORE THAN SNEEZING. EDDIES AND ECHOES OF PRIMAL POWER GROW FANGS AND MINDS THAT DRIP WITH HATRED.
  • Ask if this is like the Primal Malice.
 
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Author's Note: I'm on tilt so I'll do the scene with the Clan Bosses of the Seventh Path later. Probably tomorrow.

XP Award: -2 (brevity) XP
GM-fun Award: 2 XP

Author's Note: Technically this scene was part of the previous plan, for which XP has already been awarded. On the other hand, new week and new slot so I'm going to treat it as a new plan.

XP AWARD: 1 This update was an hour or so long.

Brevity XP: 0 Giving a brevity award twice feels like a bridge too far, sorry.

"GM had fun" XP: 2 The Turtle King is fun.
Just FYI EJ, XP was never awarded for the first part of the update.
 
Did we ever vote in a training plan for Hazou to learn Mud Hut and the Fertility Jutsu?

If not...

[X] Hazou Training Plan: Looting This Place
Mud Hut 0 -> 1 (-0.5xp)
Fertility Jutsu 0 -> 1 (-0.5xp)
 
Did we ever vote in a training plan for Hazou to learn Mud Hut and the Fertility Jutsu?

If not...

[X] Hazou Training Plan: Looting This Place
Mud Hut 0 -> 1 (-0.5xp)
Fertility Jutsu 0 -> 1 (-0.5xp)

Adhoc vote count started by Sir Stompy on Feb 28, 2024 at 7:08 AM, finished with 249 posts and 17 votes.


Just tossing the unstructured tally up there. The structured tally is a total mess 🗿
We did.
 
"I am the lord of Clan Gōketsu, a special jōnin of the Leaf, possibly the greatest sealmaster alive, master of the forgotten art of lithosealing," Hazō whispered to himself, fortifying his mental defenses against the psychic pressure in the air. The Clan Bosses probably weren't making an actual effort to assault him or anyone else. They were simply existing, and this was what it meant. Despite that, breathing felt like dragging mud through his lungs.

"You can't call it lithosealing," he singsonged to himself, mocking the Snake Sannin's words. "You need to change the name and just because you created it doesn't mean you get to name it and I'm the Snake Sannin so you have to do what I say wahhh." He ground his teeth. "Runecrafting, fine. Out loud, anyway."
By the way, every single Boss just heard us talk about "lithosealing" and knows that it's (A) a forgotten art, (B) something he recreated, and (C) something that he then taught the Snake Sannin.

Assuming the Toad Sages didn't already tell the others about our breakthrough on the Great Seal, they probably just figured it out.
 
Should we ask if he could teach us a way to boost our willpower and better resist the psychic aura of the Dragons (Resolve Boost)?

We've had to resist them multiple times while interacting with the Great Seal….
 
So, so many questions. Amazingly, he seemed to have found a person who both knew the lore and was, miraculously, willing to share. The idea beggared belief but seemed to be the case. He mentally rubbed his hands in glee and organized his thoughts.
Finally... it's been eight years.

BTW, I don't know if this has been discussed already, but canon Naruto has a giant turtle of its own: Genbu
 
By the way, every single Boss just heard us talk about "lithosealing" and knows that it's (A) a forgotten art, (B) something he recreated, and (C) something that he then taught the Snake Sannin.

Assuming the Toad Sages didn't already tell the others about our breakthrough on the Great Seal, they probably just figured it out.

Open Mouth Insert Foot strikes again. Ah well, nothing to be done about it now.

[X] Action Plan: King Turtle Wave
Word Count: Probably too much
  • Kamehameha
    • Keep asking questions, but try to have a real conversation with the King, avoid asking questions rapid fire without reflecting on the answers.
      • Ask him
        • ...about the Tenfold Abomination and its binding
        • ...about the Sage's Companions and the Five
        • ...about the Primal Malice
        • ...about the Outer Path and Externals
        • ...about ninshu - is this how the Sage planned to connect everyone's mind?
      • Thank him for his time, he's surely given us a lot to reflect on. Ask him if he'd like us to keep him company again.
  • Noburi
  • Sanity check with Kei/Mari
    • Make sure that Hazou is being reasonable here in suggesting Noburi get examined by Oro. If Mari and Kei think Noburi is right that that would be insane, don't proceed.
  • Have Mari approach Noburi alone and explain Hazou's position.
    • Emphasize that this is not just Hazou being crazy, the consensus is that this will likely pay off.
    • Explain what the expected jutsu would be (projecting Chakra Scalpels through Water Whip).
    • However, asking Noburi to get examined by Oro is a lot and Hazou screwed it up.
    • Orochimaru has to stay on Hazou's good side if he wants continued lithosealing training. There are other reasons to suspect he would behave.
      • If that's not enough incentive for you, we could ask the Toads for a representative to watch. That way Oro'd suffer repercussions on the Seventh Path for breaking his word.
      • Kabuto has done past examinations of your bloodline. He's very likely shared his findings with Orochimaru already.
      • Orochimaru very possibly kidnapped the senior piscitist and has access to another Wakahisa
    • That said, there are other options we can pursue. Alternatively...
      • Would Noburi be okay with Kabuto doing the exam instead?
      • If not, ask Noburi to try to figure out how to do it himself.
    • At the end of the day, this is Noburi's decision. Make that clear. Then ask him how he wants to proceed.
 
[X] Sacrifice Jashin to Lord Kamehameha

Dude gave us lore. Nobody ever gives us lore. That merits a reward, imo.
[X] Sacrifice Shikamaru to Lord Kamehameha

Don't bring an innocent blood God into this! Instead, let's sacrifice Shikamaru 'Never give up lore" Nara who has been continually a menace for gatekeeping and hiding lore from us when we ask him, repeatedly.
 
[X] Action Plan: Lore Update
Word Count: 240
  • Kamehameha
    • Keep asking questions, but try to have a real conversation with the King, avoid asking questions rapid fire without reflecting on the answers.
      • Ask him
        • ...about the Tenfold Abomination and its binding
        • ...about the Sage's Companions and the Five
        • ...about the Primal Malice
        • ...about the Outer Path, its binding, and Externals
        • ...about ninshu - is this how the Sage planned to connect everyone's mind?
      • Thank him for his time, he's surely given us a lot to reflect on. Ask him if he'd like us to keep him company again.
  • Noburi (Sanity Check: MK)
    • Speak with him privately at a good time and explain exactly what Orochimaru has agreed to do and what it would involve.
      • Request that he spend a few days thinking it over and discussing it with people.
      • Be very clear that if he decides he is not comfortable with the risks, we'll drop this completely.
    • Discuss options to alleviate his concerns.
      • How would he feel if:
        • …Kabuto were to perform the procedure instead?
        • …the procedure occurred at Leaf General?
        • …Orochimaru agreed to conditions in front of his summons?
        • …Hazō was in the room during the procedure and reported exactly what happened to Noburi afterward?
        • …Tsunade agreed to do a full examination of Noburi afterward?
        • …Tsunade sends a SC to perform the surgery alongside Orochimaru?
    • Leave the matter in his hands and wait a few days for his decision.
 
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Look when you get a shot this clean, you really just have to take it lol.


[X] Action Plan: The Spirit of YOUTH! Kame Sennin!!
Word Count: 377

  • Kamehameha
    • Keep asking questions to satisfy your curiosity, but try to have a real conversation with the King, avoid asking questions rapid-fire without reflecting on the answers.
      • Ask him
        • ... about how 'territory' in the Seventh Path works from a chakra perspective. How are Bosses linked to it, and how are they stronger within it?
        • ... about the other fourteen 'chakra types'. What are they?
        • … about the 'Outer Path', its 'binding', and Externals.
        • ... about the other kami. Are other names or titles known?
        • ... about the deity 'Jashin'. Describe Jashin briefly to see if it rings a bell.
        • ...about chakra golems/metal, do they occur on the Seventh Path? Are they manifestations of kami, perhaps?
        • ...about ninshu/'Jonin Aura' - is this how the Sage planned to connect everyone's mind?
        • ... about the Sage's Companions: Seven of them? Five? Three...?
        • ...about the Tenfold Abomination and its defeat. Is it possible that lingering remnants remain in chakra itself...?
    • Transition away from lore questions and talk instead about YOUTH!
      • Ask after the philosophy. What does youth mean to Kamehameha?
      • Talk about the most youthful individuals you know of: Gai, Lee, and Akane. Regale him with some humorous stories, such as that time you sparred with Gai for a whole afternoon, or how you rescued Akane with righteous face punching.
      • Explain your philosophy of Uplift a bit. Uplift seems very youthlike, it might serve as common ground.
    • If it's not too forward...
      • Hazou has spent a lot of time working on the Great Seal problem. He has had little time remaining to spare towards YOUTHFUL pursuits, or keeping up with his combat training, or many of his other skills.
      • Ask politely but straightforwardly for training advice. You need to become stronger!
    • Thank him for his time, he's surely given us much to reflect on. Ask him if he'd like us to keep him company again.
  • Spend a week keeping up with all of your other duties, such as learning Technique Hacking, healing your injuries, returning to talk about YOUTH, and meeting with Orochimaru.
    • Check in with Kagome to see how he's doing.
    • Peruse Jiraiya's fuinjutsu trove to remind yourself of the contents.
    • Do difficulty checks on the privacy seals we've downloaded with IN.
 
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By the way, every single Boss just heard us talk about "lithosealing" and knows that it's (A) a forgotten art, (B) something he recreated, and (C) something that he then taught the Snake Sannin.

Assuming the Toad Sages didn't already tell the others about our breakthrough on the Great Seal, they probably just figured it out.
Unlikely. Hazō was standing well away and muttering under his breath.
 
Unlikely. Hazō was standing well away and muttering under his breath.
He's on Kamehameha's back, so having a private conversation would be very hard.
Even if they're all not on their territory, they are still all Boss Summons
Also @MMKII @_The_Bomb
Please make a sub note to the effect of(is this tiny leftover fragments from the division of the tenfold abomination? Like sawdust from cut wood?) or anything to this effect.

The thread has theories, but unless we specify what we mean "primal malice" is just random words to Hazou, and the turtles probably have different words.
This is very much a temporary placeholder for what lore questions to ask. I'll replace it with whatever the thread cooks up in the next few days.
 
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