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- Fifth Dimension
I agree, that's why in my plan, we don't. We just discuss it with Mari and Kei first. *wink wink*
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
- Thread starter eaglejarl
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- naruto rational rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
[X] Interlude: Why Is Kagome Gōketsu's Shadow Clone Calling Itself "High Watcher Kuge Maya?"
[x] Let Velorien Write What He Wants. He Works Hard and We Trust Him.
[x] Let Velorien Write What He Wants. He Works Hard and We Trust Him.
See, just like Asuma banned the production of gold via the Wakahisa trade deal jutsu, I'm betting he's just going to shut down the whole thing and be "that's nice Hazou, but I want economic stability more. ES is now a proscribed jutsu to learn or teach, just like SC. You can't use it to produce gems for sale, glhf"
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- The Void
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- She/Her
Yeah we should at least negotiate hard for shinies but looks like we're just giving it away for free
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- Yes.
Excluding the potential for using Earthshaping to crash Iwa's economy (which is a separate issue here), most of what I want to do with Earthshaping is not to make money. I want to use Earthshaping to increase Leaf's QOL; to make telescopes in use to keep its ninja safer; to make weapons production so Leaf's RW users don't have to worry about running out of kunai...like there are so many applications we can do with the materials Earthshaping can purify and sculpt.
Asuma banned the Gold-making ninjutsu because he only ever saw its application in the context of money-making. I want to use Earthshaping and Earthshaped products to make people's lives better directly.
And yes, we could make a lot of money in the Human Path selling gems and whatever whatever. But if it comes down to it we can go to the Conclave, dump 300 pounds of gemstones at everyone's feet, and say WHAT UP.
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- The Soviet Republic of Canuckistan
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- He/Him
Can you give us some ways that it can make us rich which won't land us in a lot of trouble with Asuma if they're discovered?
All of the things we can do with it violate the law with respect to the Merchant Council.
This isn't actually very clear. I don't really understand what you're trying to communicate. I would add some words so what you're trying to say is clear.
This is tactically confessing to participating in a clan war. Esp the linked post. That seems like very no bueno to me. I would delete all of the bullet points, and just say,
- We'll never like Ritsuo, but we're tired of the cycle of hate
Can we emphasize this more? Hazou is the first to ever discover this application of ES and we deserve a big cut of the profits. I'm not sure what you're comfortable with, but I would be very sad if we got cut out of the picture because Hazou shared this with the Hokage.
I would add "Sell to foreign nations" here.
I suggest adding this to the offscreen section.
This isn't actually true IMO. Ruka will probably just resent the hell out of being forced to do till-and-fills. But I don't actually care about her mental state. This seems fine with me.
I think this is a good time to bring up the (probable) leak in the Tower. There were less than 36 hours between Akane being assigned the mission and her being attacked, with timing that tight, it's difficult to believe that her mission wasn't leaked ahead of time.
Maybe they'll like us this time! Instead of mercilessly taking advantage of Hazou's/the Hivemind's naivety like they usually do.
We halfheartedly negotiate for shinies. I guess that's the best we can do.
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- Texas
What about telling Mari and letting her negotiate this? It seems right up her alley.
It would be extraordinarily easy to claim the gemstones and gold came from the Dog Clan. Just like the last time the Goketsu got a bunch of gemstones and gold they came from the Pangolin Clan. We have the plausible deniability out the ass with all the Summon contracts in the Clan
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- Raleigh, NC
If we can get the dogs onboard, we could summon a trainer and have Sasuke learn it then learn from him.
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- Raleigh, NC
Keep the plate on. Think of each one like a flintlock that you fire once and then reload after the battle.
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- Yes.
This is true but we would still need to secretly sell said gemstones since we would be competing with civilian miners and etc. etc., the same way that Jiraiya had to send people out to sell the Pangolin diamonds.
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- Raleigh, NC
It's not going fast enough and sand/lava is much easier to source. This is meant to be used in mass by 1000+ genin.
I don't think that he had to do that. Anyway, it's not any different than selling the buttrope we got from the Arachnids. We're competing with civilian spinners there.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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- United States
It does when you can hire the best teachers in the world with it.
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- Yes.
The main difference is that the Arachnid buttrope isn't something civilians can get under any circumstances. We aren't stepping on MC toes there.
If we use Earthshaping to make gems and sell that on the open market, then we're stepping on toes because all the miners who made a living getting those gemstones, as well as the merchants who made a living bringing them to Leaf, are FUBAR. That is stepping on MC toes.
Yeah that doesn't track, silk did exist previously, and we are massively undercutting anyone who (used to) produce it. It seems to be a contradiction @eaglejarl @Velorien @Paperclipped want to resolve it?
On the other hand, we can just sell the gems in other countries. That seems fine. A good way for Goketsu clan ninja to earn their keep.
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- Book Fort
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- They/Them
Didn't Mari also work with the Merchant Council, specifically, so that the Goketsu could sell silks? Something about the merchants and their skill in weaving the silk into products, rather than the silk, itself?
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- Pacific standard
Does our underwater basketweaving tutor know anyone in the foot-painting business? Hazō thought it was an apt analogy for a reason...
Different civilians (probably) so the ones that get cut out will still be pissed.
Take out a loan, buy out all the Leaf gem mines/sellers, then wreck the global gem economy(focusing outward first). you'd own all the aggrieved businesses, so they have a hard time complaining.
Bonus: If the displaced workers are to specilized to find other work, sponsor their family's cost of living for 18 months and get them access to the goketsu school system.
Bonus: If the displaced workers are to specilized to find other work, sponsor their family's cost of living for 18 months and get them access to the goketsu school system.
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- how about no
We are now at the point where large amounts of money are no longer the best possible shinies we can get for our clan, so I am in favor of informing Asuma about ES50 not just for the reasons other posters have listed but to use this as an opportunity to see how trustworthy Asuma is.
We risk only potential large amounts of money by risking trusting Asuma. I have full confidence in the hivemind's ability to come up with new money making schemes even if this one gets taken away by the fun police for 'Leaf stability' reasons.
If Asuma does not rain on our parade we can save so much effort/spoons, not just as players but for the QMs too, by not having to worry about laundering our money, maintaining even more OPSEC while speaking to Asuma and/or other people outside of our clan, accidentally disrupting the local economy from some fence dropping too many of our iron/gems on the gray market, etc.
The chance for simplification is worth risking one, not-strictly-necessary-for-the-survival-of-our-clan/the-world(s) monetary scheme.
We risk only potential large amounts of money by risking trusting Asuma. I have full confidence in the hivemind's ability to come up with new money making schemes even if this one gets taken away by the fun police for 'Leaf stability' reasons.
If Asuma does not rain on our parade we can save so much effort/spoons, not just as players but for the QMs too, by not having to worry about laundering our money, maintaining even more OPSEC while speaking to Asuma and/or other people outside of our clan, accidentally disrupting the local economy from some fence dropping too many of our iron/gems on the gray market, etc.
The chance for simplification is worth risking one, not-strictly-necessary-for-the-survival-of-our-clan/the-world(s) monetary scheme.
