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I'm not going to weigh in on the logic of either side's arguments, but I will ask that everyone read over what they write and really consider if the words they used are polite and won't be inflammatory intentionally or not. You cant account for people's tolerances perfectly but at least try to say your piece without saying things that can be easily construed as overly dismissive of the other side of the argument, thank you.

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I think there is a miscommunication between what the word action entails for Anoqeyån. If we add Yorri to it, we do not get another action to it as a cost, but one for our AP to use on something else, this has been shown at least with Eltharin if nothing else already.

And yes @Xepheria I meant for Anoqeyan, not prod for prod. As for where they go, I just meant for the ones you are putting them in, and if you wanted to, just slot them in whichever you preferred the most.

I've already invested them, don't you worry :p

Getting both Mind 5 and Movement 5 would be insane this turn.
 
I've already invested them, don't you worry :p

I think he's asking, because the tally ate your 6 prod investment into Mind of Things - it's in your plan as you posted it, but it's not reflected in the tally for some reason.

Mind you, there is an argument for going down Mind of Things now, because language is a product of the Mind.:V Narratively, I expect that your plan would partly involve Snorri pursuing the insight that he had that Anoqeyan has parallels with old Khazalid last turn, and if language is a product of the mind, he must study the mind if he wants to pursue the line of inquiry further in the future.
 
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I thought that it wasn't possible to get two Prod for Prods in one turn.
They're two different actions. One is a prod for prod and the other is a research action we can take that just so happens to give prods.
I've already invested them, don't you worry :p

Getting both Mind 5 and Movement 5 would be insane this turn.
I think he means taking Prod for Prod as well as/in addition to/on top of Anoqeyan not as an either-or thing. There's no reason to mention me in any of his prior posts like he has if he wasn't talking about that since that's the only thing I changed.

It means not doing one of the two Things projects but it gets more research done in the long run.
 
Narratively, I expect that your plan would partly involve Snorri pursuing the insight that he had that Anoqeyan has parallels with old Khazalid.
He's already rejected that avenue for now due to having a full plate already. I imagine once we've cleared away a few other things soul will just give us a Language of Things option or something. Especially since it seems more winds related than Mind of Things related, what with being a way to cast magic.
 
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Nah, @Sir LagsAlot , I meant just the prods we would get in Anoqeyan, I can count how much AP we have and I honestly do agree with where they are going for the most part, I was just curious about the prods we were going to receive from inviting Yorri in and doing with the resulting Prods. Now that we get a full 12 prods into both mind and movement, I'm pretty satisfied, to be honest.
 
Nah, @Sir LagsAlot , I meant just the prods we would get in Anoqeyan, I can count how much AP we have and I honestly do agree with where they are going for the most part, I was just curious about the prods we were going to receive from inviting Yorri in and doing with the resulting Prods. Now that we get a full 12 prods into both mind and movement, I'm pretty satisfied, to be honest.
What? We aren't getting 12 prods into anything though without taking Prod for Prod as we only have 9 in that situation. Where are you getting the other prods from without taking Prod for Prod?
 
They're two different actions. One is a prod for prod and the other is a research action we can take that just so happens to give prods.
I'm confused, and I feel like there's been a miscommunication, so I'll speak plainly here.

My understanding is it's one or the other. We either involve Yorri in Anoqeyan and get 3 Prods, or we take the regular Prod for Prod.
 
I'm confused, and I feel like there's been a miscommunication, so I'll speak plainly here.

My understanding is it's one or the other. We either involve Yorri in Anoqeyan and get 3 Prods, or we take the regular Prod for Prod.
Yes, and I'm informing you that this isn't correct. We are allowed to take both actions, either or, or even none if we want as well we aren't allowed to take Prod for Prod multiple times in a single turn we are allowed to take it alongside other actions that also just so happen to provide prods.
 
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Given your best estimates about your equipment's destructive capability, you aren't even sure anyone not properly sheltered against such effects can stand beside you without being injured themselves. It's a curious thing to know that you're likely safer apart from your people when going all out than amongst them. It goes against the decades your mother spent drilling you to work and participate in the shieldwall at the very least. But then again you haven't had to do that in centuries, off marching just ahead of everyone or running towards the biggest and most dangerous monster with, perhaps, reckless abandon.
This sounds like a problem that needs addressing. At the very least we need to make Karstah a trinket that'll help keep her from being harmed by our very presence. That or make her aware of the issue and let her own natural desire to stand by our side during wartime inspire her to fix the issue herself (pretty nice story hook now that I think about it, so I'm kinda leaning in this direction).
 
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This sounds like a problem that needs addressing. At the very least we need to make Karstah a trinket that'll help keep her from being harmed by our very presence. That or make her aware of the issue and let her own natural desire to stand by our side during wartime inspire her to fix the issue herself (pretty nice story hook now that I think about it, so I'm kinda leaning in this direction anyway).
Let's wait and see wether or not it's a mistake on Snorri's part first, since everything about the description points to extreme levels of control over it.
The user is able to control all aspects of the mantle with their mind. Being capable of molding the roiling storm around them like a Master Potter does clay, creating ephemeral fog or clouds so thick that they are practically solid. Their mastery of Lightning is just as precise, having such fine control that they can control the output and form of the lightning striking their foes should they choose to.
 
Okay, allow me to explain, before doing Anoneyan, we already have about 9 prods that we can use on anything, Once we take Anoneyan part 2 involving Yorri, we increase the total number of Yorri prods up to 12. We then can split them half and half, six go to mind, and the other six into movement in conjunction with @Xepheria's plan, or alternatively, spend the extra 3 prods, into the movement of things. I'm saying this is possible as, over a while back, a plan was selected doing precisely that, if in spirit than nothing else. By spending an action with prods from Yorri, they were then used by @soulcake to move forward on some research we could involve the prods on.
 
Okay, allow me to explain, before doing Anoneyan, we already have about 9 prods that we can use on anything, Once we take Anoneyan part 2 involving Yorri, we increase the total number of Yorri prods up to 12. We then can split them half and half, six go to mind, and the other six into movement in conjunction with @Xepheria's plan, or alternatively, spend the extra 3 prods, into the movement of things. I'm saying this is possible as, over a while back, a plan was selected doing precisely that, if in spirit than nothing else. By spending an action with prods from Yorri, they were then used by @soulcake to move forward on some research we could involve the prods on.
No we have 6 prods before we use them on anything.
You have [Special] 6 Yorri prods this turn
And, even if we did have 9 I'd still advocate for taking Prod for Prod on top of Anoqeyan rather than one or the other so that we could get those three extra prods since that's 8 extra actions.
 
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