- Location
- The City of Tears, Hallownest
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Why are we using Mirage's 30ish intrigue and average diplomacy for Diplomacy instead of monobrow's 18 intrigue?????
[x] Plan: Crystal Key & Wasabi
DoofQuest- a Disney Villains Victorious CK2-Style Quest
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[x] Plan: Crystal Key & Wasabi
At the moment we don't know. It's safe to to assume we vote normally unless told otherwise.
Lord Ultimus
Beautiful...
- Location
- Undisclosed Warehouse
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- Location
- Academy City
- Pronouns
- They
@DragonGrimoire @The Zog @Kingster @Rovos @Travler66 @NathanMedium
Letting you know since you voted for the earlier version of my plan: I have been convinced to swap out dino entertainment for DoofOS security, in exchange for agreement from some other voters to support Dino Entertainment in January. This should get most of the same benefits, while beefing up some secutiy now after the attack and letting Janus upgrade the Spycycle before the Phantom Blot arrives. If this is a dealbreaker for you, here's your ping so you know it's a change; if you'd just prefer I not do this, let me know.
Letting you know since you voted for the earlier version of my plan: I have been convinced to swap out dino entertainment for DoofOS security, in exchange for agreement from some other voters to support Dino Entertainment in January. This should get most of the same benefits, while beefing up some secutiy now after the attack and letting Janus upgrade the Spycycle before the Phantom Blot arrives. If this is a dealbreaker for you, here's your ping so you know it's a change; if you'd just prefer I not do this, let me know.
- Location
- The willow crowned hill
- Pronouns
- She/They
Looks like most leading plans are still ignoring spy on employees for whatever reason. 'sokyo isn't at all urgent and Yokai certainly has much better intrigue than us. The only option that actually tries and address our intrigue nemesis also has Goofy do a national, but it's better than nothing
[X] Plan Sabotage Investigation
[X] Plan Sabotage Investigation
ReaperofInterest
Herald of Disaster
its because the DC has gone up, and the option explicitly says spying on them will be harder due to Monogram's failure last turn. Some.of us, myself included, think if we wait a turn or two, the DC will fall.back down.
You could also toss a vote in for Turtle Formation, as this also addresses Spy on Employees.
DragonGrimoire
Half Dragon, Half Cat, Half Spellbook, All Cute
- Location
- On Your Lap, Sleeping
- Pronouns
- She/Her/Hers
ok, will edit my post
- Location
- The willow crowned hill
- Pronouns
- She/They
That seems optimistic when the Blot is moving in next turn.
- Location
- USA
[X] Plan Sabotage Investigation
I really want to spy on employees before we get sabotaged again so I'm voting for this plan.
I really want to spy on employees before we get sabotaged again so I'm voting for this plan.
ReaperofInterest
Herald of Disaster
Why? Just because the Blot is moving in doesn't mean he's going to come work for us. WI don't see a reason why his arrival would cause our employees to look harder for being spied on by their boss.
- Location
- USA
Turtle spies on employees and has Goofy do college.
- Location
- Pindorama
My plan has picked up more support than I thought, so let me shill for it.
Most of the appeal of my plan seems to be for Spying on our Employees, which I think is an absolutely crucial action. People are interpreting the action as saying it will be easier next turn, but considering most plans choose to recruit heroes with their fair share of secrets, this might necessarily not be the case. More importantly, even with the +10DC the Commodore is enough to comfortably perform this action, and the earlier we do it the least likely we are to be sabotaged on something really important. Preventing a lost action is easily worth Spying, even with a higher DC. Now that we have an opponent right within our base, it isn't the time to worry about if an action would be 10% more efficient next turn, but to solve the problem before it gets worse. And Spying now has a good chance of doing just that.
Most of the appeal of my plan seems to be for Spying on our Employees, which I think is an absolutely crucial action. People are interpreting the action as saying it will be easier next turn, but considering most plans choose to recruit heroes with their fair share of secrets, this might necessarily not be the case. More importantly, even with the +10DC the Commodore is enough to comfortably perform this action, and the earlier we do it the least likely we are to be sabotaged on something really important. Preventing a lost action is easily worth Spying, even with a higher DC. Now that we have an opponent right within our base, it isn't the time to worry about if an action would be 10% more efficient next turn, but to solve the problem before it gets worse. And Spying now has a good chance of doing just that.
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Olivebirdy
mook.
Notice, we're the ones who get to propose the collaboration. Personally I'm thinking of 'The Perry the Platypus College of Nemeses.' Set up a more friendly environment for superheroes, make the tone a bit lighter. And, with a collaboration, we get to add both our bonuses to the roll, so it's exceedingly likely we'll get high rolls like the ones in the Rival Report. And superheroes mean heroballs. Now, this will mean that Doom gets that success as well, but I can live with that if we keep working on wrecking him.
The DC for this has gone down, and I'd be happy to collaborate with them on their space program, as I really, really want to go to space. However, I will point out that the Feds are directly aligned against our state-dominance designs, the stronger they get, the more likely it becomes that they'll force us to stop being a friendly dictator. They're using their space program to stay in power, to have something they can hold up to say that they're not worthless. I'd rather kick that crutch out from under them, as opposed to Xanatos, we have a national interest in keeping the Feds too weak to do something about Doofania's secession.
Absolutely. They've got minirockets, they've got armor. Yes, I want to collaborate with her on Science, aside from the fact that I think it'll be fun and maybe shippy. I also want to see Dr. Drakken.
Oh, excellent. Hopefully this would be something more like the Dickenses' extra Intrigue slot, but even if it's not, it's still an extra Personal Action per turn, which is pretty nice for our Stewardship heroes.
The DC is pretty high, even if Alan's full bonus goes into this. That the rewards don't say that it'll be healing damage, it'll just be improving our defenses for future turns. I'd really rather put off Alan's 53% chance of success (62% with XP) in order to have better odds of getting Wyndcomm, the aerospace company, so neither the government nor our rivals get it. The more clear space we can force for ourselves in the space industry, the better.
Next turn we'll put up cyber defenses.
Excellent, the DC is still low, the market hasn't adjusted yet. Aeronautics likely synergizes with Janus' vehicles and Sublight Drives, helps us for when we start using Galfed Tech to make spaceships.
There's an argument to be made that we shouldn't open up new tech trees, that we really don't need another thing to focus on, that we've already got genetics, food, entertainment, AI and all that. However, I really want to go to space. There's room in the quest for changing focus, there's room in the quest for doing what sounds fun, there's something to be said for being a Jack of all trades and using the different fields to help each other. There's not much competition yet, as opposed to in the food market, as opposed to in AI, it's a clean field that's only got the Feds starting in it. We have the capacity to win the space race, whether or not it's the smart move to make.
The tech that's needed to go to space also helps with flying cars and commercializing alien tech, that is, directly infringing on Cloverleaf's roads business.
There's been a miscommunication. People have been using the quote from the GM that assaulting Oregon without making any preparations was stupid to mean that any form of looking into Oregon is a risky move and possibly fatal, including looking for pictures of Bigfoot. That's not supported by WoG. It's an entirely OOC caution based on metaknowledge.
I bet we could have run into McGucket or Man-Moth if we'd tried checking out cryptids for gene samples.
We get a ??? if we combine Sublight Drives and Exotic Vehicles. And then next turn, we can start our own space program and blow past the Feds, especially if we get rockets from Shego. And, if we get our space program up and running next turn, we can get Uburnium the turn after that.Space stuff said:
Should 'Research Adaptive Anti-Cape AI and Robot Doppelganger AI to lower the DC' be in the Reward section? Lower the DC of what?AI stuff said:
I don't think we have Adaptive Anti-Cape AI in our list of currently-unlocked options, we've researched Adaptive Combat AI.
(edit: apparently they're the same thing.)
Building a Robo-Doppelganger Body isn't going to help us with Doppelganger AI. They appear to be two seperate paths, Norm is on the AI side. That is, if we want to end Norm's obsession with platypodes, we'll need to profile a person, rather than build a Doppelganger body.
(edit: I have been convinced otherwise.)
This is probably one of the options that we would be able to use Tom for. Star's been seen around the area, probably among magic people. So having Tom track down who in the area she might have been talking to? Great.
This is excellent, but there's no rush. I'd rather focus on getting more Occult units, unlocking Coven, then using the low DC here for one of our new Occult units and slots. It's shiny, but not immediately relevant.
Excellent, the DC went down by 5. It's still pretty out of reach, but it's reaching back, so that's nice.
I'd really like to be able to have a chat with Inquinator before sending people off on this quest. He might be useful for it, but there's no way to tell if he'll go for the sudden but inevitable betrayal unless we actually talk with him.
Last time we tried this, we rolled a 5, I believe. So there might be something in this if we roll better.
I don't think we've done this yet, and I'd like to see how much the DC for renovating Bueno Nacho goes down. However, as I want to reach out to Shego (and Drakken!) this turn, we probably should be putting Hego on something interesting.
Especially with the new people, I really want to roll Mirage's Gatcha. We've got people with the Intrigue, Stewardship, Diplomacy, we can afford to let her look through our Rolodex.
These both sound pretty great!
This one's a shoe-in.
I'd really like to see what Jumba could do with our shmucks, but we kind of need him this turn and all other turns.
If we're gearing up for emergency, this and Wile E.'s trapping personal actions would be useful.
I want this, I want this a lot.
All of our heroes could use a cool car, including Russ, who is last in line since he already has a cool bike.
Norm. Norm Norm Norm. This might be a much easier path to upgrading him than working our way through the Doppelganger science tree.
Finally! Something we can spend Income in that isn't ludicrously expensive. (Looking at you, Commodore.)
These should be reassigned...
Man, I really like the first and last two. Ms. Megawatt, she could single-handedly solve TECHNOR's power problems and would be excellent for a heroball with him. No idea what we could do with Monkey Kid, though, other than putting him in a generic heroball.New cards!
So here's my plan. It doesn't have a quest this turn, since we're not talking with Shego this turn it's not time-critical to put Hego on something punchy, which frees up Janna to deal with Marco, Khan to work on integrating with modern society, Lizzie to create an emergency bug-out tunnel. It also allows us to have a chat with Inquinator before we go into the garbage dimension.
Its main focus is on going to space, because I really want to win the space race. I'm not going to pretend that the secondary benefits of making roads obsolete are the reason I'm going for this. This turn is set-up for making our Space Program next turn a smash hit. Exotic Vehicles, Sublight Drives, Wyndcomm Aeronautics. Next turn, when we start the space program, we can decode GalFed computers, bolster our net security.
I want Gomez, the magitech dimensional specialist. I'd be willing to compromise and go for the 1d4 recruitment decision, but I don't want Wasabi, he'll lock us into putting a looot of effort into putting together the full set, and I simply think Gomez is a much better choice than the Glooms. The Glooms probably have some form of malus in which Grim ruins things, whereas Gomez not only specializes in a Learning aspect of Occult, magitech, which might allow us to use Doof's high Learning stats on Occult actions, such as 'Finding Magical Individuals' or checking out the crystal key, he specializes in breaking through to other dimensions, which seems relevant to our interests. He's also our best shot at mass-producing magitech items for sale should the Masquerade fall. It just makes strategic sense to get a unit that allows us to apply our strength (Learning) to our weakness (Occult).
I'd have preferred to put Major Francis on OWCA, but dealing with criminals is what he's good at and I can't spare anyone else good at Intrigue other than Tobe, and I'd rather use his earned +5 on his ninja scroll learning action.
Putting von Drake on Power Armor runs the risk of her trying to put together a Black Ops squad, but the chance of her doing Roof Lasers instead halves that risk. I don't mind if she does Roof Lasers.
For the price of hiring the Commodore once, we could have Roddy make seven Lairs. I think he's overpriced, and we don't know the chances of us managing to hire him and bring him onto our team for free. For all we know, each Income we spend on him is another 1% to the chance of him coming aboard. I don't want to have to spend 60 Income on a gacha.
I'm putting Doof on making two random potions, talking to Inquinator before next turn, (when we can send Hego and co. off on the trash quest, with the possibility of information gotten from Inquinator making the quest easier or more targeted, or the possibility of recruiting him. I'd like to have some sort of information about him and about the quest.) tinkering with our doubled Inators and our musical.
Tom Lucitor has a 15% chance of critfail on finding magical individuals, which can be bumped down to 5% with XP. And he should be willing to look for them, because it's relevant to finding Star. I don't think his +20 to raising the dead will proc on summoning Celena, she's neither damnable, nor in his hell.
[X] Plan: We're Going to Space Next Turn (Possible Inquinator and Gomez Recruitment, Mirage Gacha)
-[] National Actions:
--[][Learning] Research sublight drives (Dr. Jumba Jookiba) (60%)
--[][Learning] Research exotic vehicles (Janus Lee) (84%)
--[][Stewardship] Move Castle Doofhawk to Doofania (Roddy Blair, King of Lairs) (66%)
--[][Stewardship] Buy out a rival corporation: WyndComm Enterprises (Alan Bradley) (73%)
--[][Martial] Build a personal suit of power armor (Ludivine von Drake) (57%)
--[][Diplomacy] Reach out to leaders of the Zaibatsu (Wile E. Coyote, Genius) (92%)
--[][Diplomacy] Recruit from your rolodex: Gomez (Goofy) (82%)
--[][Intrigue] Investigate Supervillain Attacks (Agent Russ) (86%)
--[][Intrigue] Infiltrate a Hotspot: Cape Suzette (Major Francis Monogram) (72%)
--[][Occult] Search for magical individuals (Tom Lucitor) (40%)
--[][Learning] Decentralize your Normbots (L.O.V.E.M.U.F.F.I.N.) (72%)
-[] Personal Actions:
--[] Doof:
---[] Activate Automatic Potion Brewer
---[] Start writing a musical
---[] Tinker with your Inators
---[] Chat with the Bossman: Talk to Inquinator
--[] Genghis Khan (Study science and technology)
--[] Norm Prime (Try to become a Real Boy)
--[] Hego (Manage Bueno Nacho)
--[] Dennis the Duck (Study the Perfect Sandwich)
--[] TECHNOR (Build giant robot legs)
--[] Max (Job Shadow Agent Russ)
--[] Mirage (Recruit new talent)
--[] Vanessa (Job shadow Mirage)
--[] Janna Ordonia (Find Marco)
--[] Queen Lizzie (Build backup tunnels)
--[] Tobe and the Vagabond Ninja (Study the Jo-Lan Scrolls)
--[] Kitsune (Train Janna)
--[] Wendy Wower (Study a Robot: Norm Prime)
-[] Item Assignments:
--[] Ruby Wings: Janna Ordonia
--[] XT9000 Jet Car: Wile E. Coyote, Genius
--[] Jī Talisman: Roddy Blair, King of Lairs
--[] Amur: Janna Ordonia
--[] Potion of Fire Breath: Janna Ordonia
--[] Yáng Talisman: Major Francis Monogram
-[] Miscellaneous:
--[] Don't Overclock TECHNOR
--[] Activate an Inator
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- Location
- Academy City
- Pronouns
- They
Another thing that came up on discord: how do people feel about technor psychoanalyzing Janus Lee vs adding his diplomacy and narrative to the quest? I don't want to give up Lizzy's learning, and her martial/intrigue/robotics knowledge is also a solid plus, but we've also done most of the most important psychoanalysis. Specifically:
vs.current said:
proposed said:
- Location
- The willow crowned hill
- Pronouns
- She/They
After giving it some thought I'll approval vote turtle formation. Not crazy about its reach out target or use of Tobe's +5, but Goofy is valuable enough to be worth it for me.
[X] Plan Sabotage Investigation
[X] Plan: Turtle Formation
[X] Plan Sabotage Investigation
[X] Plan: Turtle Formation
- Location
- United States
For what it's worth, since your plan has Technor on a personal, I'd swap over to you if you put Technor on recruiting and Goofy on working on his degree.
Edit: I could also go for the sabotage investigation plan if it put Mirage on the diplo action instead of her gacha personal and Goofy working on degree.
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kfrar
Aspiring Encyclopedia
If approval voting was confirmed, I would've already approval-voted a modified version of your plan with TECHNOR on the quest.
So I approve, for what that's worth.
I don't want to spend actions on conventional space program. I want to advance science in the most original way possible. Like dino meat and crickets is a good start, but still only a start. I think that normal space rockets are too boring and unoriginal. I believe that absolutely any tech tree can reach stars or any other goal if you go on it far enough.
We can advance biology to the point where Jumba will create flying space whale for us.
Or develop digitized tech, so we can build giant antenna and beam yourself across universe.
Study occult and create flying magical galleon or stargate like portals.
Same for transportation. Instead of flying cars we could go Kaiju public transport route from Fred Major episode. Or start to sell flying brooms after magic masquerade get busted.
[X] Plan: Turtle Formation
[X] Plan Sabotage Investigation
[X] Plan: Fantastical Felonious Felines V1.5
Can't say I agree with any of these completely, but investigating for Kat is a need instead of a want for me.
[X] Plan Sabotage Investigation
[X] Plan: Fantastical Felonious Felines V1.5
Can't say I agree with any of these completely, but investigating for Kat is a need instead of a want for me.
[X] Plan: TECHNOR and Hego Go On a Road Trip
[X] Plan: Genetic Genius
[X] Plan: Genetic Genius
Lord Ultimus
Beautiful...
- Location
- Undisclosed Warehouse
Can we vote for more than one plan?