A little late, but I think where appropriate a plan should clarify whether Hazō is to tell anyone else about Mari and her uncle. The current winning plan is ambiguous.
 
A little late, but I think where appropriate a plan should clarify whether Hazō is to tell anyone else about Mari and her uncle. The current winning plan is ambiguous.
Yeah, it's a bit late to be changing a plan. Bad things have happened when we changed plan details in the middle of the night many times in the past. Maybe I'll wake up in time to discuss it with others.
 
Oh, no, we're turning into a rational Harry Potter quest! (I was so sure that sealing mishap table result would never come up!)

Yeah, it's a bit late to be changing a plan. Bad things have happened when we changed plan details in the middle of the night many times in the past. Maybe I'll wake up in time to discuss it with others.
From my point of view, it's a decision with massive implications, whichever way Hazō goes.
 
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Well, fuck. The planner's asleep. I thought it was obvious that we're not going to mention this.
  • Hazou is to spend a significant amount of time (upwards of two hours if necessary) thinking on what Mari said, the context in which she said it, and her motivations for saying it.
  • Think particularly on what he knows of her uncle, and of Truth Lost in the Fog's 'price'.
  • His conclusions about it don't really make her actions better, but it does explain them.
  • He may not understand her, but he stands by the words he said to her.
    • After all, he'd be an awful big hypocrite to let something like that sway his care for her compared to Kagome being... well, Kagome when he first met him.
  • Have Keiko and Noburi do this independently as well
  • Do the above AGAIN together with Keiko and Noburi as a group.
You can see the problem.
 
[X] Action Plan: Let Us Avoid the Topic for the Time Being
Make sure Mari eats with one person accompanying her, per meal.

In order:
  • Examination
    • Hazou is to spend a significant amount of time (upwards of two hours if necessary) thinking on what Mari said, the context in which she said it, and her motivations for saying it.
    • Avoid talking about secrets that Mari told Hazō but nobody else yet.
    • His conclusions about it don't really make her actions better, but it does explain them.
    • He may not understand her, but he stands by the words he said to her.
      • After all, he'd be an awful big hypocrite to let something like that sway his care for her compared to Kagome being... well, Kagome when he first met him.
    • Have Keiko and Noburi do this independently as well
    • Do the above AGAIN together with Keiko and Noburi as a group.
      • Purpose: Get additional perspective.
      • This is important!
      • Keiko: What exactly did Mari and Hana say to you about this?
        • It's vitally important we know.
        • We won't be mad or upset, promise.
  • Talk with Hana (OPSEC COOKIES!!!)
    • Hazou is entirely sincere to Hana about how her actions toward Mari have made him feel. Invoke Open Mouth, Insert Foot where necessary.
    • Regardless of how Hana feels about Mari, her present state is bad for the Goketsu as a whole and individually. She needs to help fix it.
      • If Hana thinks Mari is terrible, then, please, help make her a better person.
      • He knows he's asking a lot. But Mari isn't going to go away. Wouldn't Hana rather she be a good influence?
Misc:
  • Create the Vibration-Sensor seal according to the specs that Keiko suggested.
    • If there is additional time (and Kagome clears it, etc.), change it to function in a cone, such that it may be placed multiple spots on the body to keep track of enemies moving.
  • Hazou goes to the Tower:
    • Hand in Explosives Tax (if completed).
    • Check out available seal blanks/blueprints/research notes
      • Look at every single one, trace the blueprints/notes with a finger while reading.
      • Intent: Iron Nerve to memorize it all. Just in case.
      • Every seal you can (legally) get your grubby hands on .
  • Start putting into practice the Orgy Night Disinfo Campaign (as designed by Ino).
  • Give Jiraiya the package the Oyabun gave us.
  • Get an hour or two of training in with Ebisu.
  • Do Till'n'Fills (one a day)
 
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[X] Action Plan: Munch Munch Munch

[] Interlude: Hana since the Keiko Intercession

[X] Action Plan: Munch Variation: As A Mentor
 
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[X] Action Plan: Munch Variation: As A Mentor

I don't think we have the luxury of being able to worry about keeping Mari's secrets anymore. It's more important that Keiko and Noburi understand the situation fully. We need all the help we can get here.
 
Wait, you mean I don't need to write the talky touchy-feely scene and can leave it to the Purveyer of Misery, The Author of Evil, The Lord of ...some dramatic word that I'm not thinking of but it starts with L and works with the theme?

@LoliWhail?

Adhoc vote count started by Tua on Oct 20, 2018 at 4:51 AM, finished with 442 posts and 19 votes.

Adhoc vote count started by Tua on Oct 20, 2018 at 4:51 AM, finished with 442 posts and 19 votes.
 
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Decided to do a double post after all for the ping.

Regardless of how Hana feels about Mari, her present state is bad for the Goketsu as a whole and individually.

Does that imply we will talk about how Hana jeopardized Hazou's future life span by letting the other clans run over Mari while we are gone for the tournament? I am pretty sure Hana can make the connection herself if we say something like "Mari will be alone with Kagome for a week while we are in Mist" so we aren't giving anything away she wouldn't be able to figure out anyway.
Adds a more personal connection to it since I can't imagine a world where Hana would risk hurting Hazou even indirectly.

[X] Action Plan: Munch Variation: As A Mentor
Adhoc vote count started by Tua on Oct 20, 2018 at 5:22 AM, finished with 443 posts and 20 votes.

Adhoc vote count started by Tua on Oct 20, 2018 at 5:22 AM, finished with 443 posts and 20 votes.
 
[X] Lore Update/Interlude: Because Lighting Up the Dark is eating our time

[X] Interlude: Hana since the Keiko Intercession
 
So, do we or do we not want to talk to Noburi and Keiko about Mari's uncle?

It's not exactly a guarantee, IMO, that Hazou puts together what he did.
 
[X] Interlude: Hana since the Keiko Intercession

We could just have Hazou think about it this update, and make future plans based on what he realizes?
 
Hazou is entirely sincere to Hana about how her actions toward Mari have made him feel. Invoke Open Mouth, Insert Foot where necessary.
Also, I know it's late, but this seems like a potential OPSEC leak. Sure, it's supposed to be about Hazou's feelings, but that could include "she's been lying in bed for the past week while the Hokage's hat hangs in the balance, it's so [adjectives]!"
If you're okay with that, that's fine. It does seem like Hana could figure out most of this stuff anyway, but it seems bad to make it explicit given her position.
 
Also, I know it's late, but this seems like a potential OPSEC leak. Sure, it's supposed to be about Hazou's feelings, but that could include "she's been lying in bed for the past week while the Hokage's hat hangs in the balance, it's so [adjectives]!"
If you're okay with that, that's fine. It does seem like Hana could figure out most of this stuff anyway, but it seems bad to make it explicit given her position.
It's what makes the scene work and changing it would mean changing the entire plan that 9 other people voted for.

On another note, the more I think about it, the more I think it'd be slightly disingenuous to avoid mentioning Mari's uncle given that he's asking everyone to think through what she said separately and together.

e: Oh. There's an easy way around this. Just don't have Hazou come to conclusions about Mari's uncle, and bring it up when they reconvene. Noburi and Keiko were there for her mentioning him, too.
 
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It's what makes the scene work and changing it would mean changing the entire plan that 9 other people voted for.
Oh, I got confused between compels and invocations. That makes more sense now.

There is still above-average OPSEC tailrisk imo, so while I can understand not wanting to change the plan, I also won't be voting for it. (Partly this just on priors that a similar plan would be safer if people had >1day to refine it. I'd be happy with a plan like this post-Interlude.)
 
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On the note of fate points:

The assumption regarding the invocation is that it can be used as such even outside of social combat (otherwise there's no point in using it there because Hana's so much better at socials than Hazou it's not even funny).

Related to fate points: If it turns out that we didn't give Jiraiya the Oyabun's package (excuse me while I go scream in a room about our ever-increasing incompetence), could we make a declaration that we did?
Respectively:

Huh. I hadn't actually thought about that one but will talk with the others. If not, I won't have you use the FP.

I have no problem saying you gave it to him. Doing otherwise would be a serious dick move on our part.

[X] Interlude: Hana since the Keiko Intercession
[X] Vecht
Quick FYI: I said this before but I guess I wasn't clear enough: there will be an interlude if people vote for it, but Hana's POV is not on the table.

If this vote ends up winning I'll treat it as a generic vote for an interlude.
 
e: Oh. There's an easy way around this. Just don't have Hazou come to conclusions about Mari's uncle, and bring it up when they reconvene. Noburi and Keiko were there for her mentioning him, too.
@eaglejarl Is this an acceptable interpretation of the current vote? My thought is that, as-per Hazou's current characterization, he might not come up with what actually happened to Mari on his own, but upon sharing the discussion he had with Mari with Noburi and Keiko, they might be able to put it together, together.
 
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