Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rational rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
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Follow-up to this: Would eating said peppers, and receiving injury due to the capsaicin and related heat, be grounds for penalty due to injuring a noncombatant/people not involved in the Exams?
Probably not? We would lodge a complaint.
@Enjou We would also want to keep a written receipt for every transactions with the proctor.
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- The Void
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- She/Her
You really shouldn't encourage them
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- Yes.
Removing the suggestion for selling ice.
Good idea. Will add.
I wasn't the one to bring up the idea.
Good idea. Will add.
I wasn't the one to bring up the idea.
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- The Void
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Going to be unvoting
Alright then, nevermind. I'll keep it up for more people to give their opinions before removing or not. *grumble grumble grumble*
Added a new section to the plan:
3. If the team decides to go with this and continue trading...
3. If the team decides to go with this and continue trading...
- Use the previously established (valid) protocols for movement and security. Reference.
- Keep an eye out to see if the yakuza are continuing to keep an eye on you. Even if they are, don't get complacent.
- Be sure to get written receipts from Karina for any transactions where money and goods change hands between your team and her while buying from the Pangolins, as proof of selling rather than giving.
- Discuss with the team whether or not it might be a good idea to stop at the end of the day and turn in. Assassination attempts may spike on the final day, as teams who have done poorly may decide they need to eliminate competition to win, so the risk of continuing into day 5 may be greater.
Let's not sell commodities - ice and peppers. We need to combine them into something everyone is Mist is dying to try.
We need to sell... hot pepper slushies. Do you know how much the profit margin is on slushies?
[X] Plan Peppers and Pangolins
We need to sell... hot pepper slushies. Do you know how much the profit margin is on slushies?
[X] Plan Peppers and Pangolins
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- Yes.
Added a line asking Keiko about political considerations regarding our group selling ice, just in case. It dances around things to keep up the polite fiction even though Karina almost certainly knows (I can't imagine her not being informed), so we don't outright admit it like we did that time with Minami.
Also, I'm off to bed soon, so if anyone has any changes suggest them sooner rather than later. I will probably be up before the deadline if there's some necessary change though.
Also, I'm off to bed soon, so if anyone has any changes suggest them sooner rather than later. I will probably be up before the deadline if there's some necessary change though.
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- Australia
I'd assume that the spirit of the rules is to assess our effectiveness as ninja guards and not our ability to make and sell ice. I'd assume that at best we could act as a go between between the seventh path or other traders but we can't trade with her directly. I also think that assuming that Mist is going to go with the interpretation that is favorable is too much particularly since it risks losing all the points we earned in this challenge. We should quit while we are ahead.
Directly giving her lucrative trades is indistinguishable from bribery. Even if we offer a fair exchange there is no way to prove that our prices aren't influenced by the exam. The fact that we would be opening shop in the middle of the Mist exams just to trade with our client is actually pretty damning since it shows that the trades are just to get extra points in the exam and not something we would have done normally.
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So um...the plan calls for:
Which is strange because I feel this sort of conversation would have best been done before we propose our ideas to Karina, but the plan doesn't seem to account for this? I'd still suggest that we talk with Noburi/Keiko for both proposals first, but if this isn't viable for whatever reason it might be a good idea to suggest Pangolin peppers only, and have a conversation with our teammates after (in private) about selling ice.
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- Earth
/delurks again
FYI,
[
] No ARMAGEDDON INITIATIVE
is leading the vote.
Maybe add a contingency if Karina accuses us?
Loophole: maybe we could claim it's the Pangolins' ice?
/relurks
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] No ARMAGEDDON INITIATIVEis leading the vote.
Maybe add a contingency if Karina accuses us?
Loophole: maybe we could claim it's the Pangolins' ice?
/relurks
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- Yes.
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- USA
To summarize my perspective here: I voted for Stepdown and then walked away content in the knowledge that we'd made the right decision. Next thing I know I come back and a plan to go right back into it is leading.
Why? This is a nearly archetypal bird in the hand vs. two in the bush situation. Except in this case we're killing the bird in the hand and using its bones and sinew to fashion a net to catch the two in the bush, except maybe there aren't actually two in there, and there are dozens of rival bird-hunters who've been trying to murder us and steal all our birds for the last several days. And all we needed in the first place was a single drumstick, with anything on top of that being pure gravy.
We've got an obscene amount of points. Our client is alive. If our client dies then we both lose that obscene amount of points and commence to go so deep into the hole that we'll likely never see the sun again. Take the win. Don't go chasing after boondoggles just because we feel like it.
Why? This is a nearly archetypal bird in the hand vs. two in the bush situation. Except in this case we're killing the bird in the hand and using its bones and sinew to fashion a net to catch the two in the bush, except maybe there aren't actually two in there, and there are dozens of rival bird-hunters who've been trying to murder us and steal all our birds for the last several days. And all we needed in the first place was a single drumstick, with anything on top of that being pure gravy.
We've got an obscene amount of points. Our client is alive. If our client dies then we both lose that obscene amount of points and commence to go so deep into the hole that we'll likely never see the sun again. Take the win. Don't go chasing after boondoggles just because we feel like it.
Please put in a note that the team should discuss together whether they should quit ahead or keep going.
Why I am not voting for this plan: We are already in a fantastic position, and now you want to earn points when all it takes is a single successful assassination to bring the gravy train down. Jesus, we should quit while ahead.
We got an obscene amount of points because nobody expects us to score so much to the point that we may be top dog in this exam.
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- The Maple Syrup Mountains
[X] Action Plan: Stepdown
No extensions or lore updates, sorry. I'm really hoping Armageddon Initiative wins, because that would be hilariously fun to write.
You (or some other enterprising soul) can always throw it in as an Omake anyhow.