Two and a half hours. I leave the thread for two and a half hours to get a modicum of sleep, and the thread descends into paranoid fear-mongering. Shit like this is why I'm afraid to sleep while a vote is on: shit appears and starts building momentum while I not capable of stopping it.
A person capable of temporarily or permanently mind-controlling Kakara to release Dazarel might not also be a person who could do as much physical destruction as the dragon.
In theory, if their only goal was to kill Kakara, then yes, temporary mind control might allow them to do that instead. If they had some other, more complicated goal? I don't know.
Simon, I want you to
look at what you're saying. Even ignoring the fact that this is dragon ball, where having power and
not being a planet buster is really rare, you're literally going "if an enemy is capable of completely and utterly defeating us, they'll add this extra step to our forced suicide and/or destruction of the planet". Hell, they don't
need to release Dazarel to destroy the planet, or Kakara for that matter. Pretty much any Saiyan past the age of 8, including the Seers and Sorcerers, could do so. Any single one of the Misfits could do so. The Scouts could do so.
What if they have a spaceship handy? I mean, the Senzus already have one, we've captured one that used to belong to the alien scouts AND has good enough stealth to escape detection via ki sense. After the alien army arrives there may be quite a number of captured spaceships on the planet for a would-be renegade faction to choose from.
"Release the dragon and your sibling(s) live and escape with us, refuse and they die."
Unlikely, but not impossible.
Renegade saiyans might want to push the reset button on Exile culture, destroying it and founding a new culture and "this time, do it right!" They might well consider Garenhuld Exile culture 'unfixable,' perhaps due to the combination of the effects of Masques and the nature of the Garenhulders themselves.
Except
they don't need to use Dazarel at all. Your example with our siblings? It's exactly the same situation if Kakara doesn't have Dazarel inside her: destroy the planet or your siblings get it. Because that's literally what their demand is, and isn't affected either way.
And your Renegade Saiyan example makes no damn sense, because if they want to destroy the planet, they could do it themselves. Easily!
Simon, please.
I'm not strawmanning voter intent, I've explicitly said that most of the voters DON'T want a power-hungry Kakara.
I'm fearmongering because I honestly think there is something to fear here, namely that like every other time Kakara carried out major actions that wrapped up a plot, her traits will definitely be evolving after this event resolves. And like the previous times, it is likely that Kakara's traits will evolve along lines not all of us predicted, and possibly along lines not all of us desire.
I don't think many of us expected Protector to arise out of destroying a bunch of inanimate objects and talking down people who were trying to kidnap us- we were pleased that it did, but we didn't see it coming.
I don't think many who were active in the quest at the time expected all Kakara's traits and reputations resulting from the Garenhuld II Conference to play out the way they did, either.
It is entirely predictable that Kakara will experience trait gain, change, or evolution depending on how she handles this decision. And it is entirely possible that the changes in question may include some undesirable or ambiguous lines.
As a counter-argument, however, it takes either
repeated usage of a trait to cause it to evolve, and/or for us to push the boundaries and define or redefine it. Your Protector example being a
bad one, as we were in a period of self-reflection and discovery as the playerbase had previously
violated a second-tier trait
with a sub-trait. It's development is therefore both logical and fitting.
The trait we developed during the Council? The sub-trait mentioned above, clarifying a point that the main trait touched upon.
And something to note? Not once has one of our first-tier traits evolved without us dedicating an action to doing so, despite several of them being used multiple times since we got them. As such, I do
not hold that a single usage of Ambitious is liable to cause it to evolve into a new, more unwelcome trait.
And sorry if it seems like I'm deliberately targeting you out, you just had some easy posts to grab.
