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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Deathbybunnies said:
I have in fact suggested this exact thing. If we were to do this, I suppose I'd accede to publishing AV early so they know what they're trying to do and why, but ideally we'd just tell them it'll save the apprentice and the results would be useful to our ongoing project.

If you want a background roll for getting another source of AV, this one - which doubles as a method of saving hapless Apprentices - would be nice.
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Sure, and presumably, if we published a preliminary paper which stated you could trap a Wisdom's Asp in a mirror box and get liquid Runesmith Favor out of it, and the Colleges just so happened upon an Apprentice with a Wisdom's Asp, they would give it a shot, because they would know to.

It's the industrial processing for Wisdom's Asps that's so ill-advised, not snagging the odd Asp that's already haunting a Wizard. There's no reason the Colleges couldn't fish for those 1% chances among endangered Apprentices once they knew how, and they wouldn't need our express instruction to try.
 
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DragonParadox said:
Probably not, the reaction looks to be one way, like a fire. You can't unburn a torch and you can't make the undifferentiated matter of the polar realms from the very much differentiated winds.
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Fire is really a better example than you're thinking, because while yes lighting something flammable leads to it burning it specifically isn't irreversible. Making hydrocarbons from carbon dioxide and water is a thing that can be done (photosynthesis is a thing) - it's just that for assorted physics reasons it's much easier to go from hydrocarbon to CO2 and water than it is to go from CO2 and water to a hydrocarbon.

Just because undifferentiated winds don't automatically form up into AV doesn't mean making AV from winds is impossible - it just means that it's difficult enough that it doesn't happen without an intelligent actor deliberately trying to make it happen. It might also be impossible even with an intelligent actor trying to make it happen, but we can't actually know that for sure without giving the matter some serious study.
 
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kfrar said:
Sure, and presumably, if we published a preliminary paper which stated you could trap a Wisdom's Asp in a mirror box and get liquid Runesmith Favor out of it, and the Colleges just so happened upon an apprentice with a Wisdom's Asp, they would give it a shot, because they would know to.

It's the industrial processing for Wisdom's Asps that's so ill-advised, not snagging the odd Asp that's already haunting a Wizard. There's no reason the Colleges couldn't fish for those 1% chances among endangered Apprentices once they knew how, and they wouldn't need our express instruction to try.
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This is a good point, at the very least writing a paper on how to trap a Wisdom's Asp wouldn't be a bad idea considering how many wizards are hunted by the things.

We could save a decent amount of Wizard lives by doing this. Like, if people don't wanna mention the AV thing, alright, but it's honestly in retrospect a little irresponsible that we haven't written a paper on how to not die if you're being hunted by a Wisdom's Asp yet.
 
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What's our coin plan for the Cloak of Beards heist? Two +20s probably isn't good enough to be worth it so I think Gambler's out. Night Prowler would get us to the front door of wherever it's held and help with exfiltration. Deceiver would also help, especially if we get caught red-handed. Protector would mean we can just burn it and still reap the dwarf favour, rather than have to first smuggle it out of Ulthuan, but the dwarves may count it as desecration of remains and the fact we're not actually stealing the big prize may mean we're not honouring Ranald as much as we could.
 
I mean, if we honestly plan to rob the Cloak of Beards ... literally just ask some Dawi our options, if they want us to steal it or if we can just burn it, or if there's some burial ritual, or what.

It's not like their going to rat us out.
 
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Feel like Dwarfs wouldn't want it brought to the Karaz Ankor. The Holds themselves have a lot of Runes as part of their construction, including Ancestor Runes, and those getting interfered with would be a bad time.
 
BoneyM said:
History indicates that its insights are the sort that get the Colleges outlawed for fifteen years and get the reader executed by the Grand Theogonist.
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So after the big disastrous incident they destroyed the book.
...right? They did destroy the book they believe will send any reader insane enough to kick off a localised storm of magic right?
 
Andres110 said:
What's our coin plan for the Cloak of Beards heist?
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Uh, why are we talking about stealing the Cloak of Beards like it's something the thread has already committed to doing? Is there any indication that Mathilde even knows it exists? It was brought up three hours ago in the context of a joke about Anti-Kragg weaponry; this isn't, like, a long-running ambition of ours. It's literally never been brought up in the narrative, and the narrative is already stuffed fit to bursting with other shiny things. We do not need more long-term schemes for Mathilde to chase down.
 
Wait wait wait, why are we robbing the Cloak of Beards? I thought we wanted to be invited back to Ulthuan after the Elf trip.

King Arthur said:
This is a good point, at the very least writing a paper on how to trap a Wisdom's Asp wouldn't be a bad idea considering how many wizards are hunted by the things.

We could save a decent amount of Wizard lives by doing this. Like, if people don't wanna mention the AV thing, alright, but it's honestly in retrospect a little irresponsible that we haven't written a paper on how to not die if you're being hunted by a Wisdom's Asp yet.
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I'm pretty sure that paper was already written by someone else, actually, hence where we got the idea. The problem is catching them in a specific way, and I don't think even Mathilde is entirely sure how she managed it.
 
picklepikkl said:
Uh, why are we talking about stealing the Cloak of Beards like it's something the thread has already committed to doing? Is there any indication that Mathilde even knows it exists? It was brought up three hours ago in the context of a joke about Anti-Kragg weaponry; this isn't, like, a long-running ambition of ours. It's literally never been brought up in the narrative, and the narrative is already stuffed fit to bursting with other shiny things. We do not need more long-term schemes for Mathilde to chase down.
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We're going to Ulthuan, Mathilde hangs out with dwarves, Mathilde worships a thief god. There's no commitment, just talk.
 
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Ericwinter said:
Wait wait wait, why are we robbing the Cloak of Beards? I thought we wanted to be invited back to Ulthuan after the Elf trip.
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It's only a small minority of High Elves who cherish the thing, the same people who keep shaving Dwarfs to this day. Most would be agreeable to not having to acknowledge it exists anymore.
 
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Maybe one day, wizards driven to the edge of sanity will stumble over our secret vault looking for an edge in a wizard war, and using the AV and Drucchi smut within they'll create a storm of magic and go mad.

Then we'll know that we've really made it as a wizard.
 
BoneyM said:
That would have been the sensible thing to do, so you can be certain that they didn't.
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So, considering they just let anybody into the Light College to take their stuff, when are we making our trip?

(Or do we only get to do that if we're employing our requisite villain-immunity to common sense? Another reason for vampirism, I guess.)
 
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