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Well, it's absolutely true that the best way to evacuate Kragg once we've turned into a dragon is to store him inside, where he's nice and protected. Gotta take care of the elderly.
Plus, as we're a vampire, he'd surely have the same metaphysical potency as a dragon, so eating him would permanently quench our thirst.

We do not need to match the average elf, or even the average Shadow Warrior, we need to surpass the latter to where the presence of our human self with all the a bureaucratic complication of a human out of bounds, is worth the trouble to the people in charge.
They were willing to go to that trouble on a whim, and that before we learned our battle magic lore trait, personally annihilated an entire army of greenskins, and then wrote the first book on counterspelling them.
 
@picklepikkl covered most of what I was going to say, but to add onto that - it's not like we'd really be going out of our way to tame our Arcane Marks, learn Branulhune style, of become Lady Magister, either, since those are all things on the todo list anyway.
They're near the bottom of our todo list. How long have we had taming our Arcane Marks on our todo list? I mean, I wouldn't fight against a focused push to do all of that in the next two turns, but looking at the research rabbitholes we're already planning to go down your proposed requirements are the next best thing to never. AP hell is a thing.

From previous discussion, the only thing I recall broadly supported as mandatory was the staff.

To me, the first question to ask is "does hanging out with elves offer any potential insight into elven magic that would help with the waystone project?" If yes, we need to do it sooner rather than later.
 
They were willing to go to that trouble on a whim, and that before we learned our battle magic lore trait, personally annihilated an entire army of greenskins, and then wrote the first book on counterspelling them.

They were willing to give us several months on a whim, that is a minuscule amount of time to an elf. My bet is any complaints would not even have the time to actually go up the chain of command by the time the period is over. A standing invitation would mean someone would have to actually make the case for why this human is exceptional enough to set foot outside the trading city and take the snide remarks from other elves about 'needing a human to do your job'. I really don't think a paper on orcs is going to cover that on its own.
 
They were willing to give us several months on a whim, that is a minuscule amount of time to an elf. My bet is any complaints would not even have the time to actually go up the chain of command by the time the period is over. A standing invitation would mean someone would have to actually make the case for why this human is exceptional enough to set foot outside the trading city and take the snide remarks from other elves about 'needing a human to do your job'. I really don't think a paper on orcs is going to cover that on its own.
Yes, because of course the shadowy ninja elves who get ostracized for being so impersonal have a guest list they keep posted for snooty noble elves to scoff at? We're not going to be attending elf parties, we're going to be camped out in a twisted, shattered land hunting even worse people while attempting to fraternize with what could be charitably described as 'dark elves, except not on the side of evil'. The only warning anybody will get of our collective presence will be when we put our various bladed instruments through their anatomy.

And that's really something to emphasize there; the shadow warriors don't have many friends. Any sort of competent operator willing to come and help them murder dark elves is far more likely to have their approval than someone half a country away.
True.
But wait, does that mean we'll be hungering for vampries once we've turned into a dragon?
Only the princess vampires. So, yeah, the Lahmians.
 
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They were willing to give us several months on a whim, that is a minuscule amount of time to an elf. My bet is any complaints would not even have the time to actually go up the chain of command by the time the period is over. A standing invitation would mean someone would have to actually make the case for why this human is exceptional enough to set foot outside the trading city and take the snide remarks from other elves about 'needing a human to do your job'. I really don't think a paper on orcs is going to cover that on its own.
A standing invitation is going to take more than being really good at killing enemies. Maybe something like demonstrating that we actually understand how the waystone network works, or publishing a paper on an aspect of magic that even Teclis has never heard of.
 
A standing invitation is going to take more than being really good at killing enemies. Maybe something like demonstrating that we actually understand how the waystone network works, or publishing a paper on an aspect of magic that even Teclis has never heard of.
Are you thinking of Hoeth, perhaps? We were invited by the ninjas, not the mages. There's considerable doubt as to whether or not they were even referring to magic when they compared their 'shadows' to Sapphiry's arts.
 
Windherder: You've developed an intuitive grasp of how Winds interact, when they'll interfere with each other, and when they'll mix and curdle into Dhar. Makes basic multi-Wind Enchantment and Spellcasting possible, as long as other Wizards provide the other Winds.
Do we have any reason to believe this trait will come into play with available research options? I confess between months of forgetting the details of what happened and generally not touching multi-wind stuff, as well as "as long as other Wizards provide the other Winds" I've been worried that we made a poor choice back then.
 
Yes, because of course the shadowy ninja elves who get ostracized for being so impersonal have a guest list they keep posted for snooty noble elves to scoff at? And that's really something to emphasize there; the shadow warriors don't have many friends. Any sort of competent operator willing to come and help them murder dark elves is far more likely to have their approval than someone half a country away.

Yes they most certainly do, because the snotty noble in question is the Phoenix King, whose law defines where in Ulthuan humans may or may not walk. And if him being the ultimate ruler of Ulthuan is not enough obedience to the Pheonix king is the defining difference between Shadow Warriors and their Druchi kin. So no they won't be defying the law of the land 'because they are competent operators/loose canons'. That would cut against their very identity.
 
Do we have any reason to believe this trait will come into play with available research options? I confess between months of forgetting the details of what happened and generally not touching multi-wind stuff, as well as "as long as other Wizards provide the other Winds" I've been worried that we made a poor choice back then.

I personally hope that a combination of Wind Runes and AV decomposition will allow us to substitute for other Wizards.
 
Yes they most certainly do, because the snotty noble in question is the Phoenix King, whose law defines where in Ulthuan humans may or may not walk. And if him being the ultimate ruler of Ulthuan is not enough obedience to the Pheonix king is the defining difference between Shadow Warriors and their Druchi kin. So no they won't be defying the law of the land 'because they are competent operators/loose canons'. That would cut against their very identity.
But they're willing to defy the law of the land to let us show up in the first place? Or maybe both instances would be sanctioned, because they are loyal, and they're following the rules in order to bring us onboard. If the shadow elves want us to visit, and they set things up with the border guard to give us permission years in advance, that's going to be because giving us permission to do that is something they have the authority to do.
 
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Upon rereading the story, I've realized that Mathilde has seemed absolutely fucking insane to the Dwarves from day one. I'm not talking about her being a wizard, or about her rushing around the Empire at crazy speed to call for reinforcements. I'm talking about her battle plans :
  • My reputation with the Dwarves? It starts when I fought off a skeleton horde alone over the body of my Thane.
  • A tower full of Skaven? Let me walk in through the top door, alone, and open the gates while an army charges said gates
  • Battle of the East Gates? Forget bodyguards and fighting in line like everyone else, I'm going to rush into any slight breach of enemy lines like I don't care about being surrounded by hundreds of Orcs : a single horseman works just like a cavalry charge, right? I'll spread fear and kill their elites, it'll work fine!
  • Karag Lhune? I'll walk in solo, execute their leader in the middle of his throne room, and run away into the corridors of his fortress. It'll work fine!
Forget her crazy achievements, the first thing they'll have noticed would be Mathilde's enormous suicidal streak.
 
Upon rereading the story, I've realized that Mathilde has seemed absolutely fucking insane to the Dwarves from day one. I'm not talking about her being a wizard, or about her rushing around the Empire at crazy speed to call for reinforcements. I'm talking about her battle plans :
  • My reputation with the Dwarves? It starts when I fought off a skeleton horde alone over the body of my Thane.
  • A tower full of Skaven? Let me walk in through the top door, alone, and open the gates while an army charges said gates
  • Battle of the East Gates? Forget bodyguards and fighting in line like everyone else, I'm going to rush into any slight breach of enemy lines like I don't care about being surrounded by hundreds of Orcs : a single horseman works just like a cavalry charge, right? I'll spread fear and kill their elites, it'll work fine!
  • Karag Lhune? I'll walk in solo, execute their leader in the middle of his throne room, and run away into the corridors of his fortress. It'll work fine!
Forget her crazy achievements, the first thing they'll have noticed would be Mathilde's enormous suicidal streak.
The first and third earned her respect, not doubts as to her sanity.
 
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Do we have any reason to believe this trait will come into play with available research options? I confess between months of forgetting the details of what happened and generally not touching multi-wind stuff, as well as "as long as other Wizards provide the other Winds" I've been worried that we made a poor choice back then.
It lets us work collaboratively with other wizards and make more complicated stuff, like towers that use multiple Winds. The issue is that winds in proximity interfere with one another and can cause Dhar. Windherder lets us avoid that; we still can't use it to make winds interact without causing Dhar, but we can at least make something that uses one wind to do one thing and another wind to do another thing.

This does not seem likely to benefit our research directly, as I argued back when we were voting on traits. It only seems likely to benefit applications.
 
But they're willing to defy the law of the land to let us show up in the first place? Or maybe both instances would be sanctioned, because they are loyal, and they're following the rules in order to bring us onboard. If the shadow elves want us to visit, and they set things up with the border guard to give us permission years in advance, that's going to be because giving us permission to do that is something they have the authority to do.

Certainly they have the pull with the Phoenix throne to invite, but not in secret. It will cost them influence at court and likely ridicule. Mathilde has to prove herself worth that.
 
As I understand it, Qhaysh does not exist as an independent thing. It's a process, a way of safely casting spells that are composed of more than one Wind at the same time, not something like a Wind of Magic.

A Qhaysh spell is like a beautiful masterpiece of a painting using brushstrokes of many colours that don't overlap. Each Wind retains it's own independent and distinct identity while contributing to the greater than the sum of its parts result of the overall spell. The fact that the Winds aren't touching and medling is why it isn't Dhar. Different paintings use different colours of paints in different proportions.

As a result, Qhaysh only 'exists' in the form of active spells and enchantments cast or created using that method, in the same way that say, the Impressionist art style only physically exists in the form of the painting from that school.
I'd argue that Qhaysh pre-dates the winds of magic because the elves and Slann have been using it since before the Elves split the winds.
It's likely how magic was basically assumed to be existing in before the coming of Chaos.
The coming of Chaos introduced some X factor into existence that ensures that mixes of the basic components of magic that occur in the presence of sufficient exposure to this X factor will cause Dhar, and this caused the Aether, which was formerly full of Qhaysh, to now be full of Dhar.
The elves then split the winds to prevent this interaction from taking place everywhere all the time.
So the real trick is figuring out how to get Qhaysh in the modern environment suffused with this X factor, while starting from its elementary components(the modern winds).
It seems likely that the trick involves making sure that you're only channeling the purest of each of the eight winds.
 
Forget her crazy achievements, the first thing they'll have noticed would be Mathilde's enormous suicidal streak.
If it's suicidal, but we live, is it suicidal? :V
Certainly they have the pull with the Phoenix throne to invite, but not in secret. It will cost them influence at court and likely ridicule. Mathilde has to prove herself worth that.
They've already done so. They're not going to lose anything they haven't already for saying 'yeah, this was a great decision' and deciding to keep her on. The super secret ninja elves aren't going to extol the virtues of how we stabbed one particular Druchii in the face, they're just going to nod and say we do good work, because no other elf actually wants to hear about that sort of thing (again, they're basically social outcasts because they do so much murder).
 
They've already done so. They're not going to lose anything they haven't already for saying 'yeah, this was a great decision' and deciding to keep her on. The super secret ninja elves aren't going to extol the virtues of how we stabbed one particular Druchii in the face, they're just going to nod and say we do good work, because no other elf actually wants to hear about that sort of thing (again, they're basically social outcasts because they do so much murder).

One elf has given us a 99 day trail period during which we may prove our worth, that is qualitatively different from the standing invitation we would want to have. The point is not to get them to sing out praises at court, but for Mathilde's efforts to be worth enough that they can formally request a standing exception to the king's ban which is remarkable enough to draw attention. Since they are pariahs a lot of people are going to take the chance to make cheap pot shots at their competence that they would need the help of a human. Whoever makes that request is going to have to grind their teeth and take it.
 
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I'd argue that Qhaysh pre-dates the winds of magic because the elves and Slann have been using it since before the Elves split the winds.
It's likely how magic was basically assumed to be existing in before the coming of Chaos.
The coming of Chaos introduced some X factor into existence that ensures that mixes of the basic components of magic that occur in the presence of sufficient exposure to this X factor will cause Dhar, and this caused the Aether, which was formerly full of Qhaysh, to now be full of Dhar.
The elves then split the winds to prevent this interaction from taking place everywhere all the time.
So the real trick is figuring out how to get Qhaysh in the modern environment suffused with this X factor, while starting from its elementary components(the modern winds).
It seems likely that the trick involves making sure that you're only channeling the purest of each of the eight winds.

I'd argue that magic as currently used Post-dates the Caraclysm, and that the Slann spent the thousand or so years between that and the Coming of Chaos to invent Wind magic and then High Magic as a way to try to duplicate what they'd previously achieved with raw Aethyric energy channeled from the warp gates through the geomantic web.

Qhaysh itself, as something that's a way of using the Eight Winds, can't predate them.

The elves didn't split the Winds, they're formed by the natural reaction between the material world and the raw energy of the Aethyr that happens at the ruined warp gates as it enters reality.

Qhaysh as described is not raw Aethyrical energy based on what we know.
 
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