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- Utrecht
Meowthilde: here's a dark elf. I found him living with some rats.
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Daroir: Good Kitty! You should come to Nagarythe some day: we'll show you a lot of nice things you can do to dark elves. But now... time to unwrap my present.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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Daroir: Good Kitty! You should come to Nagarythe some day: we'll show you a lot of nice things you can do to dark elves. But now... time to unwrap my present.
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- being near locations is my passion.
Yes; it was me. I said "Redshirt Army should make a bazillion of them"
Glad to see that you've made a start
.Alternatively: "Well, our work needs doing, but it does get a bit samey, ya know? And she's cute. Like a puppy that's a bit uncoordinated. A fresh dash of tenor to the tapestry that is this unending shadow war. A bit of effort to make sure she doesn't go and off herself, but we feel it's worthwhile.
Basically, don't have the shadow elf people present to their kin as 'help' so much as a 'court jester' type deal
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- Location
- Toronto, Ontario(occasionally)
I would be deeply amused if this gets represented in-character, with Mathilde just casually assuming that the elves are unreasonably competent, and the elves being really reluctant to prove her wrong because they want to maintain their feelings of superiority.
- Location
- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
I vaguely recall hearing somewhere that to adjust statlines for elf standards, you have to more or less shift them by 10. Thus, given the human scale:
20 is average, 30 is impressive, 35-40 is heroic.
20 is average, 30 is impressive, 35-40 is heroic.
deathofrats0808
Don’t think of it as dying; just as leaving early
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- Earth
If that's true, Mathilde is less than average for Stewardship and Diplomacy and middlingly average for everything else, except magic which has a different scale.
chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
Do you mean 'as a political advisor who is expected to be really good in this by default', like our standards over in the Old World?
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- Brazil
Quick, where's the cat holding three hundred thousand dead skaven and wearing a pointy hat?Meowthilde: here's a dark elf. I found him living with some rats.
Daroir: Good Kitty! You should come to Nagarythe some day: we'll show you a lot of nice things you can do to dark elves. But now... time to unwrap my present.
That would be fantastic!
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- Brazil
I kind of recall some guideline for shifting the scale, tho I'm not sure if it's by 10.
Another point is that this doesn't really hold up when we look at Belebro's and the Council's statline.
So that may be an artifact of days gone by, two hiatuses ago and when we were barely more than a teenager faking it till she made it.
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- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
Pretty much. By elf standards, we're the equivalent of:
Diplomacy: 4 - A clumsy oaf, easily tripped up by the nuances of discussion and the subtleties of insult - but what more can you expect from a human?
Martial: 13 - Capable enough to defend herself, I suppose.
Stewardship: 9 - Not entirely hopeless in this domain, although she continues to lack some foundational basics.
Intrigue: 14 - She has some basic skill in this area, and can become quite dangerous when this is augmented by basic Ulgu usage.
Piety: 16 - She worships a strange human reflection of Loec, but does so with true intensity and drive.
Learning: 17 - Legitimately quite intelligent, and eager to learn more from the true masters of the Winds.
... or, at least, that's my best attempt to guess what elven snobbery would look like.
chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
Oh hey, our old diplomacy score. Where'd you get off to?
- Location
- Toronto, Ontario(occasionally)
We need a sequel in which the nega-thread realizes that she wasn't rappelling out of the gyrocopter to foil a beastman ritual, but was instead ordering a battle altar that can transform people into dragons.
- Location
- Brazil
Of course, when you consider a snobbery-free scale such as "fighting Vampire Lords and Orc Warbosses" or "stalking an Eshin Sorcerer" or "startling an Eshin Master Assassin who was likely the leader of the K8P contingent", the scale as-is becomes quite sensible.
This is entirely compatible with Heroic-tier stats, regardless of race. Because Orcs don't discriminate when bashing face in.
This is entirely compatible with Heroic-tier stats, regardless of race. Because Orcs don't discriminate when bashing face in.
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kfrar
Aspiring Encyclopedia
Based on this -
It seems that someone with Intrigue 12 would be considered borderline competent as the spymaster of Stirland, where the incompetence of the advisors is a feature and a typical adviser would presumably be better. So Intrigue 10 is probably not average for an advisor, but rather for a rando.
Could we enchant a sword with both Flaming Sword of Rhuin and Occam's Mindrazor to get a flaming cut-through-everything sword, or would that be too close to work?
Regarding us being declared 'a Mathilde', would dwarfs be willing to use gifts we made for them now that they're not umgi work? I'm imagining rangers using a cloak of take no heed to help blend in, you know?
Wizard lords might have standing invitations as being one means you're good at single wind magic by elf standards but there's not exactly a ton of them.
Considering elf lifespans and how new the Colleges are Wizard Lord level casters are probably a lot rarer on the mainland than they'd be in any elf kingdom let alone Saphery.
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- Outside the Box
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Once we tell Kragg that if he's not interested, we'll have to give the project to Thorek? 100%.
Yes. This is exactly how Mathilde does spy stuff.
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- Utrecht
Don't we already have a Cut everything sword? What we should invent is the Shadow sword spell so we can popularize our sword gimmic
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- Brazil
Lets keep some perspective here: I think the King of Barak Var had something like 25 Stewardship?
And that's an old dwarven king in the Karak with the greatest specialization in trade and business.
So, add 10 points to the scale because they are elves, but don't forget to then subtract like 8 or so because they are elves.
And that's an old dwarven king in the Karak with the greatest specialization in trade and business.
So, add 10 points to the scale because they are elves, but don't forget to then subtract like 8 or so because they are elves.
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- Greece
And that's why it is optimal to eat all the elves
In that case, we don't need to impress anyone at all, since we'll be getting wizard lord soon enough, so we could skip the prepwork.
chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
Maybe it could be two swords attached to the same hilt, but I think either of those messes with the base sword in a way that'd involve a bad kind of mixing.
A sword that cuts your mind when swung one way and explodes when swung the other would be pretty cool, though.
Mathildes aren't known for their fine craftsthildeship. They are known for inexplicably annihilating enemy postions, doing crazy and concerning but effective stuff, and overdoing things. Good to have around, so long as around doesn't mean right around.
Our sword (probably) already does that. Sharp side cuts, flat side explodes (whatever it hits).
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chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
Oh yeah. I thought we'd have to half-sword for that, but I don't think it was ever specified that the activating force had to be focused on an edge, so the sword suddenly trying to force a two or three inch surface through our target's body probably would be the result. If we hadn't sprung for Gromril that'd snap it like a twig, wouldn't it?
Impressing is worth it because we're not going to reach the bottom of what the elves can offer anytime soon.
It's one thing to have an invitation but personal tutoring from an Archmage or access to archives would be on another level entirely. Awe enough elves and maybe Teclis will feel nostalgic and give a couple tips in passing.
Point is the elves are the people for magic training unless we somehow manage to befriend a Slann.