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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Boney said:
Each one represents a month of work for a skilled Wizard, so nobody's actually tried whacking one with bigger and bigger hammers until it breaks.
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As a person who very literally does this for a living, someone should get around to trying it. It's useful information.

Are powerstones and orbs equally strong? Sure, Boney's quote suggests as much, but can you really know until you've tested it? Maybe the increased magic alters physical properties some way. What about between winds? Is ghyran stronger than aqshy? Oh, and rate sensitivity. Not just "are power stones sensitive to loading rate," but again, you have to consider the different winds. Chamon seems like it'd behave mostly like a metal (duh) but I could see ulgu having some really funky nonlinear behavior, just to be confusing. What's the wavespeed in a power stone?

None of this is relevant to anything except me procrastinating on asking similar questions at my real job.
 
Andres said:
By what means can Chaos tempt the We?
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Nurgle's the only one that seems to be remotely capable of it, just because the We overall seemed very concerned with the idea of dying.

Still don't think it's anything to worry about, just that it's more of a hook than anything I can think of for the other three.
 
Ericwinter said:
Not really? Usually she gets a fair amount of warning before she gets into big battles, or at least goes to exceptionally dangerous places. And honestly? I don't see why people would be concerned about the impracticality. Every picture I can find of the Staff of Volans has this weird golden dragon statue thing on the top at least as big as a human head. Teclis's staff has a big gaudy ornament about the same size. It doesn't seem out of place, at least in Warhammer.

Fair point about us already having a good staff though. On the other hand, this seems like the only way we could get an upgrade, if we wanted one. I also just really want to flex.
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SuperSonicSound said:
An orb of sorcery as part of a project to make a super staff isn't a bad idea at all. Considering that they are probably rare even for Elves and the best Elven wizards tend to be funneled towards high magic where having eight would be super inconvenient, there's almost certainly gold at the end of this seam but it's never been practical enough for the Elves to try it.

Also yea, the idea that we're going to just gift orbs of sorcery to every character Mathilde remotely likes it kind of ridiculous.
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Power stones aren't useful for staves for whatever reason
Boney said:
No, power stones aren't useful in staffs.
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Since Orbs of Sorcery are essentially "power stone but bigger" they presumably have similar limitations

Just as well though, putting an Orb in a staff honestly seems kinda wasteful compared to putting it in a battle altar or similar war machine
 
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I do not think it would be very easy for Chaos to tempt the We ironically because it has never tempted a We before, it has no way to understand the mentality which is very alien. I also do not think it is that concerned with death, it is just shocked at how easily non-We die. It is as far as we know immortal unless killed and we are not and this is the first insatnce of it meeting mortal sapient life. I mean imagine if we met sapient mayfiles as our first alien contact. I would wager a lot of our discourse would be about death as well
 
DragonParadox said:
I do not think it would be very easy for Chaos to tempt the We ironically because it has never tempted a We before
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Chaos is non-linear, so this probably doesn't matter

I think Chaos, being Chaos, would find some way to corrupt the We. They don't have the protection the Lizardmen seem to have, and until they actually start interacting with Chaos we won't know if they have resistance like the Halflings apparently do.
 
Current vote has the We with a small but significant lead, followed by locals, and then with about the same distance Cython. The others are so far off that I don't see them winning.
Adhoc vote count started by BurnNote on May 11, 2022 at 9:19 AM, finished with 1165 posts and 293 votes.
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I do hope the We win, and that later on we enchant a whole bunch of illusion items for them, so instead of spider librarians, we have secret spider librarians. Which the locals treat as totally normal. You don't have spider librarians? What kind of amateurish place are you running?
I hope that in the distant future, every library has a We (and every We a library), and it has become a core part of their culture.
 
CrimsonOddball said:
Since Orbs of Sorcery are essentially "power stone but bigger" they presumably have similar limitations

Just as well though, putting an Orb in a staff honestly seems kinda wasteful compared to putting it in a battle altar or similar war machine
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I suspect that either this isn't a complete answer or Boney changed his mind on this at some point given Adela used something like an incomplete powerstone to as the headpeice of her staff.
 
Jyn Ryvia said:
I don't mine 'weird' stuff, I just wish the thread isn't jumping on the option that will undermine the original goal of having human, dwarf and halfling nerds working together…
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I feel this is a bit of a false equivalency. In the ideological battle between Cooperation Good vs I Like Weird Stuff the matter wins out, or at least gives one a sense of moral rectitude, but does it actually make a better library, or does it just fill diversity quotes? I would submit it is more the former than the latter.

That I not to say there is no advantage to choosing humans, halflings and dawi for the job, there are chiefly how approachable they are but this is not the modern library around the corner where the kids learn research 101, it is not even an academic institution linked to a Insituutionn of higher education, it is a repository of lore (much of it obscure, a good bit of it dangerous) at the edge of the civilized world.

I think that Hans being scared of spiders is less of an issue than the fact that Josef behind him is a Chaos cultist looking to steal our collection of books on apparitions so he can use it for daemonology.
 
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SuperSonicSound said:
I suspect that either this isn't a complete answer or Boney changed his mind on this at some point given Adela used something like an incomplete powerstone to as the headpeice of her staff.
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This?
Boney said:
You glance at her belt and raise an eyebrow. Not a grounding rod, that's... you'd call it a staff, but it's barely the length of your forearm. "Your work?"

"Yes, Magister!"

You frown at it, trying to make sense of what you're- ah. "Don't they tell you not to try that in the Bright College?"

"They did, Magister."

"And you did it anyway." You're only vaguely familiar with the general principles, but one of the intermittent steps to creating a power stone was gaseous. Not nearly as good as the finished product, but every now and then someone with more ambition than sense gives it their damnedest, realizes they're not quite there yet, and makes the best with what they've got. This girl has entrapped the gaseous Aqshy inside a wand. What better for channelling Aqshy than Aqshy? Hideously dangerous, but when you were at her stage, you had developed a habit of avoiding anything reflective out of necessity.
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It wasn't a staff
Adela used her failed powerstone, which was this weird semi gaseous Aqshy as a wand with which to channel more Aqshy through

It's relatively novel, but there's a reason it's not standard practice despite the principles being easily understood
It's an attempt to salvage a failed experiment, so the wand is apparently both rather unsafe and not as effective as an actual power stone

It's also got nothing to do with Wizard staves, Adela was just using a shard of Aqshy as a channel for more Aqshy
 
It's Power Mist, which was an option available for Mathilde at character creation. It lost out to enchanting talent however.

Boney said:
[ ] Power Mist: Showing a shocking amount of hubris, during your apprenticeship you managed to get your hands on a restricted book and tried to construct a Power Stone. Though you didn't even get close and knocked yourself out for weeks, you did somehow manage to grab and wrestle a strand of Ulgu back on itself until a mist formed, though you passed out soon after. Perhaps this 'power mist' could be contained and investigated for useful properties? And you do remember the rest of the steps, if you're ever arrogant enough to try the whole process again.
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Adela just stuck the power mist inside a wand.
 
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