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Mathilde's fit enough to swing around a great-sword in combat regularly and can make herself tireless for a while, and even if an Orb-laden staff would be unbalanced, it's also, you know, a staff with an Orb of Sorcery. A bit of impracticality is probably worth it. If nothing else, anything that needs that much power probably won't be calling for too much running around or fighting.
 
Honestly I want to just keep piling up ridiculous things and then use our Ulthuan trip to drag Teclis back to look at it all (usually the Dawi would be like 'hell no' about the stuff that's adjacent/around them, but we can likely convince them by framing it as showing off multiple Masterpieces to the Wizard Guildmaster).
I do kind of want to see Teclis' reaction to a bunch of this stuff. At least partially because I'm pretty sure he'll be excited about anything he doesn't already know about, because he's kind of a nerd IMO.

By Teclis and Magnus, but I suppose Elrisse is highlighting the Teclis part. It's not like Teclis would have told Magnus the inner workings of the Waystones. I imagine Magnus would have been slightly more understanding if he learnt Dhar was responsible for keeping the world alive.
He might have told Magnus. I can certainly see the logic in not putting it down on a record somewhere that either of them knew though.

I find it funny that Mathilde has a "primordial library". What a fearsome name.
Primordial in this context just means basic. Not really that scary. Actually it's not really that scary in any context, but eh.

Mathilde's fit enough to swing around a great-sword in combat regularly and can make herself tireless for a while, and even if an Orb-laden staff would be unbalanced, it's also, you know, a staff with an Orb of Sorcery. A bit of impracticality is probably worth it. If nothing else, anything that needs that much power probably won't be calling for too much running around or fighting.
Unless you're anticipating Mathidle having a fair amoutn of warning before needing to do that kind of spellwork she'd probably leave it at home though. And past events have rarely given her that amount of time. Not to mention it requires sacrificing Mathilde's already very good staff to use.
 
Mathilde does have, like, 15 more years to get even better at it thought :V Not yet feeling pressured by not clearing that mark.
11.5 years to be exact. Not that it shows.
Primordial in this context just means basic. Not really that scary. Actually it's not really that scary in any context, but eh.
Primordial means at the beginning of time. I understand you feel the need to be contrarian literally everytime you post, but perhaps you can think that people have different ways of viewing things than you do? Every time you reply to me it's to tell me I've got something wrong, and it starts getting really irritating after a while.
 
Unless you're anticipating Mathidle having a fair amoutn of warning before needing to do that kind of spellwork she'd probably leave it at home though. And past events have rarely given her that amount of time. Not to mention it requires sacrificing Mathilde's already very good staff to use.
Not really? Usually she gets a fair amount of warning before she gets into big battles, or at least goes to exceptionally dangerous places. And honestly? I don't see why people would be concerned about the impracticality. Every picture I can find of the Staff of Volans has this weird golden dragon statue thing on the top at least as big as a human head. Teclis's staff has a big gaudy ornament about the same size. It doesn't seem out of place, at least in Warhammer.

Fair point about us already having a good staff though. On the other hand, this seems like the only way we could get an upgrade, if we wanted one. I also just really want to flex.
 
I do not think we need as nuke staff, and that is what an Orb would be. Think about how the stuff actually works, a big ball of Ulgu that weakens the veil of reality and makes effects of Shadow magic more powerful and long lasting. We do not even know Battle magic beyond Miasma and RoW which we can already cast safely.

One thing I am curious about is if we could grow the crystal in a shape other than a big ball. Could we for instance make the crystal in the shape of the Rune of Ulgu?
 
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Not really? Usually she gets a fair amount of warning before she gets into big battles, or at least goes to exceptionally dangerous places. And honestly? I don't see why people would be concerned about the impracticality. Every picture I can find of the Staff of Volans has this weird golden dragon statue thing on the top at least as big as a human head. Teclis's staff has a big gaudy ornament about the same size. It doesn't seem out of place, at least in Warhammer.

Fair point about us already having a good staff though. On the other hand, this seems like the only way we could get an upgrade, if we wanted one. I also just really want to flex.
I can't bring up an image at the moment, so you'll have to trust me on this. If you look up the Staff of Volans, all your results will be from Total Warhammer, which upsized the Staff of Volans for stylistic flair. The 8th Edition portrait for Balthasar Gelt contains a dragonhead at the end of the staff, but it's definitly smaller and sticks out less.
 
Another way to one up Teclis' orbs of Sorcery is to get the measurements on them.

Then Mathilde can say "i made orbs of Sorcery, and they're bigger than yours"

(read it in Scottish accent, for maximum humour)
 
I can't bring up an image at the moment, so you'll have to trust me on this. If you look up the Staff of Volans, all your results will be from Total Warhammer, which upsized the Staff of Volans for stylistic flair. The 8th Edition portrait for Balthasar Gelt contains a dragonhead at the end of the staff, but it's definitly smaller and sticks out less.
Fair enough. I still don't expect that it would render the staff unusable though, or even exceptionally troublesome. Maybe awkward to begin with, but not ridiculous.
I do not think we need as nuke staff, and that is what an Orb would be. Think about how the stuff actually works, a big ball of Ulgu that weakens the veil of reality and makes effects of Shadow magic more powerful and long lasting. We do not even know Battle magic beyond Miasma and RoW which we can already cast safely.
Personally, I would like to learn more Battle magic, but if that's not your taste fair enough.
 
Not really? Usually she gets a fair amount of warning before she gets into big battles, or at least goes to exceptionally dangerous places. And honestly? I don't see why people would be concerned about the impracticality. Every picture I can find of the Staff of Volans has this weird golden dragon statue thing on the top at least as big as a human head. Teclis's staff has a big gaudy ornament about the same size. It doesn't seem out of place, at least in Warhammer.

Fair point about us already having a good staff though. On the other hand, this seems like the only way we could get an upgrade, if we wanted one. I also just really want to flex.
My biggest problem with a staff of orb is that boney describe d the using of a orb to cast a spell as "you cast a cataclysmic spell and then probably disintegrate because of too much power."
 
My biggest problem with a staff of orb is that boney describe d the using of a orb to cast a spell as "you cast a cataclysmic spell and then probably disintegrate because of too much power."

Not quite, that is how he described using up on Orb of Sorcery as you would a power stone, not using it as part of the enchantment of a staff as you would any other enchantment.
 
There's also just the thought that it doesn't have to be Mathilde's staff. Since this would be far in the future anyways, probably, I wouldn't mind having the theory worked out for maybe an Eike Magister graduation present, or Mandred depending on where he ends up. Even if he's not a Grey, we could probably make a Godmotherly gift of the appropriate Orb and our notes.
 
There's also just the thought that it doesn't have to be Mathilde's staff. Since this would be far in the future anyways, probably, I wouldn't mind having the theory worked out for maybe an Eike Magister graduation present, or Mandred depending on where he ends up. Even if he's not a Grey, we could probably make a Godmotherly gift of the appropriate Orb and our notes.

Ah yes, nothing quite like the gift of a magic nuke to give to our godson. :V
 
There's also just the thought that it doesn't have to be Mathilde's staff. Since this would be far in the future anyways, probably, I wouldn't mind having the theory worked out for maybe an Eike Magister graduation present, or Mandred depending on where he ends up. Even if he's not a Grey, we could probably make a Godmotherly gift of the appropriate Orb and our notes.
I like how quickly rarity of some artifacts change here. From "Orbs are a gift from Teclis, and are very precious important things" to "Eight for College flex, one for Mandred, one for Eike, one for staff, one for our superweapon. Also lets do them in all forms and sizes!" in a day.
 
Ah yes, nothing quite like the gift of a magic nuke to give to our godson. :V
Kid'll probably need it, to be honest. Emperor or not, he'll still be an Elector Count and could use all the help he can get, especially if he ends up leading armies. And if it makes even lower tier magic stronger as well, or gives +2 magic or something, all the better. It might not just be Battlemagic better.
I like how quickly rarity of some artifacts change here. From "Orbs are a gift from Teclis, and are very precious important things" to "Eight for College flex, one for Mandred, one for Eike, one for staff, one for our superweapon. Also lets do them in all forms and sizes!" in a day.
Hey, I'm just following Mathilde's lead. Her first thought on hearing that she could maybe make a Waystone Network for the Empire was what she would do with it.
 
I like how quickly rarity of some artifacts change here. From "Orbs are a gift from Teclis, and are very precious important things" to "Eight for College flex, one for Mandred, one for Eike, one for staff, one for our superweapon. Also lets do them in all forms and sizes!" in a day.
That's what happens when you discover/rediscover a manufacturing process for important things. Sudden;y you can make lots of them, so there's no longer a reason not to use them. Or at least the reasons are different.

Things would get awkward if he's only an EC and doesn't become Emperor. Or it's the perfect argument for him to convince the other EC to vote for him…
How so?
 
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Dammit, I thought of Cython staff too, but left it out because I couldn't think of a good reason why. Other than the obvious reason of giant magical dragon with epic staff.

I mean it would not have to be staff shaped. I do not think he is overly worried about grounding miscasts, both because of how long he has lived and cast spells and because... well he is a dragon, most miscasts are more of an inconvenience than anything.

'Oh no a STR 10 hit, whatever shall I do' *down one wound*

That said maybe Erngrim could make something nice for him with a white magic orb.
 
That's what happens when you discover/rediscover a manufacturing process for important things.
Well, unless we find a way to do this without depending on AV, I can't really say that we did.
Dammit, I thought of Cython staff too, but left it out because I couldn't think of a good reason why. Other than the obvious reason of giant magical dragon with epic staff.
Gratitude of said dragon, perhaps? Although, how valuable would he consider an Orb is a question.
 
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