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Men in general or submissive doormats?
Warhammer Fantasy: A Dynasty of Dynamic Alcoholism
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Huh. My bad, I was remembering the Yellow Fang's first appearance and her reaction to us.
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That was mortification/embarrassment on Frederick's behalf. What you'd feel if you accidentally walked in on someone and saw them naked.
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I'm pretty sure the gold-ish sword in the crook of her right arm is the actual weapon, and the steel sword in her left hand is a ceremonial weapon.
(ninja'd by QM, sorry, but to me it was clear just from the look)
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.... Well They are down 4 black arks... Means their fleets are kinda occupied.
If Marianburg gets sacked by druchii then Freddy wins by default. Especially if he can convince the cult of Mannan to move temples.
Move from Marienburg, one of the most populous and largest cities in the old world, to small Salkaten? Move from the heart of their faith to the least important coastal province for it's center of faith? Especially considering Salkaten may as well be sacked with how damaged it is? Come on, be a bit more realistic.
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When did the druchii lose four Black Arks? I only remember the one Black Ark the Everqueen assissted in taking down.
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only the docks and shipyards got totaled utterly , the actual city itself along with its population got off fine since the dark elves never managed to breach the last defensive wall
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their is a Black ark being chased out of Ulthuan waters by the high elven navy as we speak and the thread is determined to take the two the Black ark currently being boarded while they have the chance
has the vote been called yet ?
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It's true it hasn't been sacked but the ports and sea wall and maritime section are, and considering the walls are down it doesn't look safe, there's no maritime trade which is probably pretty important to the city as a whole…it's not nearly as bad as it could be but if you wanted to blow a single portion without casualties and still fuck it up as much as possible, that's the way to do it.
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Oh, premature declaration, carry on.
Malekith could be leading the Ulthuan navy into a trap. The two Black Arks at Salkalten could run away. A norscan dawi could be imprisoned on a Black Ark at Salkalten leading to the dawi fleet moving to aid their Norscan counterpart immediately.
And no, QM did not call the vote as far as I remember. The vote is heavily slanted one way, so there's not a real need to declare the vote ended beyond an offficial end time.
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Correct.
The platonic friendship between Evangeline and Regina is, in my head at least, in the same vein as such things as something out of Band of Brothers, Samwise and Frodo, Boromir and Aragorn, etc.
They went through hell down there in the underworld. Forged a bond as they journeyed in a realm without sun, lit only by firelight and runes, underground far longer than any other human from the Karak Ungor campaign. Learned from each other, helped each other. As Regina helped Evangeline strengthen her body and buoy her timid mind and grief-ridden soul, so too did Evangeline wear away the brutal conditioning forced upon Regina in her own way as well - for while Regina's body was far stronger, it was the nourishment to her own lacerated mind and torn soul that was perhaps the greater balm. Night goblin ambushes. Skaven assassination and poisoning attempts. Outright assaults by greenskin tribes, trolls. Monsters like giant spider swarms, squig swarms, hungry trolls, and other strange and twisted things down in the darkness. Alone amidst the dwarfs, their numbers few, they forged an incredibly tight bond.
As a reminder, Evangeline's main featuring sidestories in the past, the 'Owl's Journey' chunks, featured the Start of it which was in 2331. The second chunk, where she became the Sword of Justice, covered 2337-2338. Which, in turn, means she spent 2331 through 2337-8 underground. Occasionally she went up into the Deeps of certain Hold which hosted her, but the MAJORITY of her time she spent like a quasi-Ironbreaker/Ranger down there. Quite a lifestyle, yeah? She slew the Warlord of Fester Pike, after having fought alongside Belegar Ironhammer and Clan Angrund forces - among others, too. But also featured were multiple moments spent on their friendship, in various ways.
S'good stuff in those two chunky sidestory portions, yeah? If you haven't read it, I really do highly recommend the linked post above. It grants substantial insight into the characters of Evangeline, Regina, and additionally features both the Grand Theogonist and the Emperor Magnus.
But yeah, just an incredibly deep friendship.
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Which lots of people misinterpret as romance, sadly.
Curious how Regina is doing by the way. Most likely taking part in defense of Everpeak if still kicking around.
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Shipping goggles is a real issue unfortunately.
Still, it puts Evangeline's rage at the Grand Theoginist in a different light. She and Regina spent years together, supporting and building each other up, and to see all the support and love erased like putting cheap shitty siding over a beautiful handpainted, if imperfect, mural would be an insult and betrayal of the highest level.
Still, it puts Evangeline's rage at the Grand Theoginist in a different light. She and Regina spent years together, supporting and building each other up, and to see all the support and love erased like putting cheap shitty siding over a beautiful handpainted, if imperfect, mural would be an insult and betrayal of the highest level.
Not exactly. We know that there are two here with us, and there are two being chased by Aislinn.
If Otto decides that Naggaroth is a better target due to the lesser security and more loot, then he might go for that.
Of course nothing is stopping him from raiding Ulthuan instead like in the OTL.
Because that's exactly what Malekith needs, A stealth kick in the nutsack because his people currently are running around like headless chickens.
Yeah. He would chase that meddling pirate to the ends of the earth. And instead of Otto's Stupid Move he gets a Saga immortalizing his bravery and honor for catching the druchii with their pants down. Welcomed at every port, yet forever on the move to avoid the hidden blades of Naggaroth.
Honestly, It might impact our own fame but i'd be willing to commit to supporting the printing of this just so Malekith goes after him instead of us.
But who am I kidding, Malekith has a hate boner for everybody and is willing to splurge on it.
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Ulthuan is unlikely to be a target. Otto has the presence of mind to care about consequences, as evidenced by the way he handled a ridiculous sum of wealth from a monster, and the benefits of Marienburg popularity. Otto can strike Ulthuan once, but should fully expect a loss in status, wealth, and life.
Otto might not be raiding anyone. With the conflict in Cathay and Nippon on the ocean routes over, there is now a open route to the Far East, that those who know can make use of, to gain a profit for goods that have not seen active frequent trade in recent decades on the Old World markets. There is a potential fortune to be found in one massive fleet venture to the Far East for what should be minimum risk.
The two Black Arks being chased by Aislinn can be a trap to annihilate Ulthuan's fleet. The majority of the Black Arks are sticking near Naggaroth. Malekith can have already positioned those Black Arks near Naggaroth to intercept Ulthuan's fleet. The most dangerous offensive of a group of Black Arks is ramming ships into pieces. While Aislinn's fleet is focused on two Black Arks, Malekith's Black Arks ram the Asur fleet from the back.
With Naggaroth possessing the majority of the Black Arks active in the world, Otto successfully striking Naggaroth is not likely.
I'll grant that maybe Naggaroth might be too risky a target at this moment.(Not agreeing , Malekith has shown that he does not infact have full control ATM)
But I'll have to question why you believe that he wouldn't go for Ulthuan considering that he DID do it in the original timeline when the risks and consequences were the same.
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LOL it definitely goes 'both ways" so to say.
Hey torroar, has there ever been a roll for this quest that ever made you super excited when it succeed/fail? I just finished my re-read of the whole quest, and there were some moments that I forgot that were pretty exciting/sad to fail. For me it was Roland failing his piety check in Karak Ungor, so utterly sad.
MrRobot
In doubt there's always the Sun!
Kinda, but not quite i would say.
While it does happen that some miss the concept of a bromance when is used in man, its generally viewed the exeption perpetrated by some loud groups
With women it's the norm, just look at the female MC tag.
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The risk and consequences are not the same. There is a difference between "But C'mon, Ulthuan is in a weak position and can be sacked, just like canon, the landscape is perfectly set-up for canon to happen, why would Otto not take the shot when he did it in canon?" and "I have provided evidence to support why Otto Steinroth is most likely to sack a city on Ulthuan in this quest".
Ulthuan is least likely because Otto is not untouchable, and because Otto is WEALTHY. How wealthy he truly is is unknown, but it is quite the sum. The trade profits between the Far East and the Old World is impressive for the expeditions that do succeed from one trip, as in equal to multiple Merchant Princes and Dwarf Kings. If Otto were to sack any city on Ulthuan the tensions between Marienburg and Ulthuan would rise. This is bad for Otto's personal business in Marienburg, since he entrusted his money with Marienburg's banks. Marienburg is the city of a thousand and nine cuts to your wallet now and forever more in your future for all residents of the city. If Otto plays his cards right he could take over all of Marienburg and acquire all the wealth of the ten Families of Marienburg, which is a grander prize than one city on Ulthuan that can turn Marienburg against Otto. As the ruler of Marienburg Otto would be less able to be touched in retaliation for anything he were to do to Ulthuan.
Otto has skaven contacts in Clan Mors, druchii contacts, and other groups. Other groups are possibly necromancers, tomb kings, vampires, bandits, pirates, greenskins, beastmen, chaos dwarfs, and cultists. Otto Steinroth is half norscan. Perhaps an ogre or two, as well.
The quest version of Otto Steinroth is not identical to the canon version of Otto Steinroth. Just as Magnus the Pious of this quest is not identical to the canon Magnus the Pious. Now that the obvious-obvious is restated, the reminders. Otto Steinroth of this quest has a brain. Otto Steinroth of canon did not care, so long as he was rich. Magnus the Pious of canon did not promote men and women being equal in the eyes of the population. Quest Magnus the Pious has taken actions to support women not being denied certain occupations based on their gender. Stuff like that, these quest chracters are still Otto Steinroth and Magnus the Pious, but they are Alternate Universe versions of the canon source material. Canon is not locked, and could not happen.
Edit: And Otto might be the Khaine asassin after Freddy. Clearly Otto has the moniker "The Red Pirate of Marienburg" for selling beautiful red ruby gemstones! If Otto were to to get killed by Asur instead of doing his duty to Khaine, that would be unfaithful.
Edit2: Otto Steinroth might know about the beasttide, definitely knew about the attack by two Black Arks on Salkalten, and has taken a sizable number of people away from the Empire of Man on a long distance trip that may take a few years to return to a transformed Empire of Man.
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This probably being the most unlikely scenario. Think about it. The Cult of Manaan just received a massive boom in influence, especially within the city, called the fleet to fight of the Druchii and then finds out that this guy took the ships on a joyride.
Sorry, he made himself absolutely no friends. No matter who his target is going to be, his return to Marienburg is not going to be a nice one. I agree with your points on Ulthuan (unless he suffers from some mental damage), but the situation is not looking good for him. If he just wanted prestige, then he would have followed the Cult. That he didn't do so, is already not very promising in regards to his intelligence.
Furthermore, let's say he gets a successful raid. Even on the Druchii if you want. Using the Empires weakness to aggrandize himself? Knowingly disrespecting the Cult of Manaan and possibly Manaan himself? I wouldn't be surprised if Magnus and The High Priest (forgot her name) judged him personally upon his return.
Which brings us to the last part. Manaan. He's a fickle god, but he has absolute authority over the sea. I could very well see him sending Otto to Ulthuan to make a fool out of himself. Could happen, could not.
Edit: But yeah, Marienburg is not in a good place all things considered.
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