For hype moments I remember Zacharias throwing some big magical attack at the Al Ulric and the Al Ulric just contemptuously backhanding it because magical trickery means nothing compared to Ulric's mighty thews.

That was the thing though. The Al Ulric was kicking ass against Zacharias because he had four rolls in a row which were all higher then 70.

Then he rolls a nat 1 and suddenly Zacharias is beating him to death with his own arms.
 
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That was the thing though. The Al Ulric was kicking ass against Zacharias because he had four rolls in a row which were all higher then 80.

Then he rolls a nat 1 and suddenly Zacharias is beating him to death with his own arms.
Well yeah, that happens when at heart, you are a relatively squishy human and your opponent is a monster that is probably in top hundred beings you absolutely never want to meet.
 
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The whole Zacharias and vampire war arc certainly made my Lunar New Year yearly relatives visit a hell lot more interesting.


Nail biting for me was Skull taker fight, just an emotional roller coaster there.
 
Apropos of nothing, war bulls as mounts are now considered possible.

Rhinoxes are also potentially usable, for certain things, if they can be found and properly corralled in the Middle Mountains. Stonehorns, being mountain eaters, are still right out excepting for potentially one or two as a curiosity.
 
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The whole Zacharias and vampire war arc certainly made my Lunar New Year yearly relatives visit a hell lot more interesting.


Nail biting for me was Skull taker fight, just an emotional roller coaster there.

There was another quest I played at which had a Skull Taker fight but based on the TT mechanics. On TT Skulltaker has the Heroic Killing Blow rule and the GM was updating round by round, so every round felt like this might be the end as Skulltaker only needed a single good roll to kill the PC. Never thought an text game could bring about that amount of tension before. GMs really seem to do Skulltaker justice around here.
 
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Apropos of nothing, war bulls as mounts are now considered possible.
Are we gonna start seeing random efforts from Bull Knights to go about this?
The whole Zacharias and vampire war arc certainly made my Lunar New Year yearly relatives visit a hell lot more interesting.


Nail biting for me was Skull taker fight, just an emotional roller coaster there.
Sorry about that, i just have bad memories from some of the less savory discussions that happened around that topic. Yeah it was. Really cool that is.
 
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war bulls as mounts are now considered possible.

Rhinoxes are also potentially usable, for certain things, if they can be found and properly corralled in the Middle Mountains.
Ok, I'm curious and pleasantly surprised, but what brought this on and how biable are "War Bulls"? Sounds similar to Ogres is function and usage.
 
Just looking at some of the newer WHRP stuff. Again, we're more of a 2ED sorta place, and I've already spoken as to not liking some of the 4ED stuff, but it ain't all bad. Plenty there is neat, like the aforementioned Chamon Elemental keeping the Silver Hills full of silver. One of the bigger sections on knights and what not talking about knightly mounts, with the most common being the horse (obviously) but the most common 'exotic' mount being demigryphs, but there being other such legends like 'giant winter wolves, thundering war bulls, dragons, or exotic creatures from Lustria. There may even be some truth to these stories' and then goes on to mention that some Orders get to have their leaders on gryphons or pegasi.

So...yeah. Plus, apparently Rhinoxes are both incredibly heavy with meat, and while they stink and are super belligerent, apparently said meat possesses a delightful flavor. So, they're capable of being more than just ogre beasts of burden or war, so that additional potential utility is there too.

Just, you know, decided to incorporate some new information, yeah?
 
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Just looking at some of the newer WHRP stuff. Again, we're more of a 2ED sorta place, and I've already spoken as to not liking some of the 4ED stuff, but it ain't all bad.
Personally i just can't get over gnomes being a thing again in 4e, especially with how mechanically fun they can be, I usually just headcannon them as exiled magical halflings whenever someone plays one.
 
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I don't see an advantage over horses. Slightly divine giant wolves? Sure. They have fangs and claws. Demigryphs? Absolutely, they are feathery murder blenders.

Bulls? Horses are stronger, faster animals. I don't see a point in investing any effort in to making that happen.
 
I don't see an advantage over horses. Slightly divine giant wolves? Sure. They have fangs and claws. Demigryphs? Absolutely, they are feathery murder blenders.

Bulls? Horses are stronger, faster animals. I don't see a point in investing any effort in to making that happen.

This is Malus.

We prob can get bulls that can get to the same specs as horse with enough time, breeding and steroids.
 
Breed them ourselves?
Presumably with help from Myrmidians.
Let me explain the method to my madness.

My thought processes went like this:

-This sounds awesome, so how can we explain it not having been a thing so far, especially since bull warriors are right there?

-Answer: They have not been developed yet, or it is a thing from outside the empire.

-Hmm, bullfighting has a fucklong history in Spain and Estalia is strongly spainflavoured. not to 1=1 levels, but strong flavour nonetheless.
Yeah, I can see there being a not-Pamplona in Estalia.

-Since it is not-Pamplona of course they would have a yearly running with the bulls.

-Since this is WHF, of course there would be some madlad going - yeah I can ride that. I mean, we live in a less bonkers setting, and there are people like that here. probably in your very town. But, since it is WHF, some of the madlads can actually succeed. And continue succeeding to the point that they can go on and teach others to do so.

-And wouldn't you look at that, Freddy just recently made this grand deal with the imperial branch of the Myrmidian church, which would see a lot more of Myrmidian presence in Ostland.

-All it would take would be a non-Pamplonan expat, maybe even one who knows a thing or two about breeding and training war bulls, to reminisce before an appropriate public to get the local madlads getting ideas.

Reformatted to be less of a wall of text.
 
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This is Malus.

We prob can get bulls that can get to the same specs as horse with enough time, breeding and steroids.
Yes, but why? I would rather focus on getting better horses.

Or Demigryphs. I could be argued into trying to leverage the wood elves into helping us set up breeding of domesticated demigryphs quite easily. It would mean that demigryph calvary could be trained without having to send the knight into the woods to go tame a wild one.

Actually... this is perhaps something we should mention to our fellow trident member. Nordland is likely better positioned to make the attempt to set up domesticated demigryphs than we are, and it would put them on the map much the same way the gunnery school puts Ostland on the map. Nordland being defended by large formations of demigryph knights would be NASTY for anyone who wants to invade them in the future.
 
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So...yeah. Plus, apparently Rhinoxes are both incredibly heavy with meat, and while they stink and are super belligerent, apparently said meat possesses a delightful flavor. So, they're capable of being more than just ogre beasts of burden or war, so that additional potential utility is there too.
I don't wanna question you, but it sounds like rhinoxen mounts are less a thing and are more locked behing a research tree that first gets rhinoxen tame enough to slaughter for meat and then... actually scratch that

That sounds exacttly like what you would get from a group of ogres that really want to be part of bull warriors. And just decide to emulate them until they get the position. Which would be incredibly based if Bulls actually became mixed troops, but thats not gonna happen right? I dunno.
 
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