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I think it's more likely their resilience is directly tied to their assets, and we reduce it by capturing Shodars and cleaning out corruption.
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I think it's more likely their resilience is directly tied to their assets, and we reduce it by capturing Shodars and cleaning out corruption.
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I'm having a little bit of fun writing up an Election night post. Hopefully no one kills me for speculating a little bit on how Earth functions in civilian life/economics and a few other things. Might take a while to write up though.
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That is actually very plausible. Although if that's true, then the Syndicate probably has extremely high resistance when we started, and still has most of it. Because we've only begun to mop up corruption on a few of the many Orion worlds, and we cannot possibly have picked up more than a fraction of their senior leadership.
The important question is if they're having Council and Presidential votes at the same time or if it's a Parliamentary style
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You know the missus has a lot more say in her man's ship than in some other lady's. She's probably just overriding Straak's commands to mind the rocks with commands to mind the spleens.
Actually, in Esperanto, Finnish, Italian, Polish and Portuguese, Apatia means Apathy, which is pretty jarring, but no great crime. Incidentally, in Spanish it would have been apatía, with an acute accent in the i.
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Well, yeah, we haven't hit much that's absolutely precious to them yet. I think we got a little sneak-peak at what Alukk is going to be like with the adventures the ISSU has been having on Celos. Fortunately they do seem to have done some pretty significant damage there, which might translate to lowered reliability.
EDIT: Actually the scrutineers + Aerocommandoes did take down a shodar on Alukk before Kahurangi retired, we've been hitting them harder than I thought.
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Just an FYI, very early in the campaign before I knew that you had thought through how the Federation Council works, I started to write an omake with my own version of the political processes. I had a very different approach to how political power was divided. Rather than 1 Councillor per world above a certain population size, I had each member species given a certain amount of political power which they were then free to divide up among as many Councillors as they saw fit to assign it to. So, like, the Vulcans might have 3 Councillors and the Tellarites 15, but the votes of the 3 counted for as much as the votes of the 15. I then noted that the whole thing was going to be revised in the near future as new members joined and the old balance no longer seemed practical.
Though that was just the preface... I was actually going to spend the bulk of the omake making up a bunch of Councillors and trying to give them personalities.
Don't mark this as an omake or anything because it's not complete and sadly outdated by canon, but here's what I got done if you're curious.
Meet the Snakepit
Archival Note: This is one of a series of memorandums prepared by Admiral Vitalia Yukiko Kahurangi for use by her successor in the event of her sudden death, incapacity, or removal from office under circumstances which did not allow for a smooth transition of authority. As with others in the series, the Admiral adopts an informal tone, seemingly unconcerned with what anyone might think of what she's written under the presumed circumstances in which it would be read.
Historical Background
At the time this memorandum was written (Earth date 2306 CE) the Federation was still limited to its original four member states, but was on the verge of a massive expansion in membership over the ensuing decades. Consequently, the original governing structure for the Federation Council still prevailed.
Original Federation Council Structure: Each member species may elect as many Councilors as it wishes, but they are collectively allowed only three Council Votes to allocate among themselves by whatever internal mechanism they see fit. The Federation President is elected from among the Councilors and has the ability to set the agenda as well as serve as tie-breaker for any votes.
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Memo from Vitalia Yukiko Kahurangi to my Successor (39/?)
Title: Meet the Snakepit (Federation Council)
I call my yearly meetings with the Federation Council "the Snakepit". You'll find out why soon enough. I assume you're already well briefed on Council membership and basic civics, but these are my personal
Archival Note: This is one of a series of memorandums prepared by Admiral Vitalia Yukiko Kahurangi for use by her successor in the event of her sudden death, incapacity, or removal from office under circumstances which did not allow for a smooth transition of authority. As with others in the series, the Admiral adopts an informal tone, seemingly unconcerned with what anyone might think of what she's written under the presumed circumstances in which it would be read.
Historical Background
At the time this memorandum was written (Earth date 2306 CE) the Federation was still limited to its original four member states, but was on the verge of a massive expansion in membership over the ensuing decades. Consequently, the original governing structure for the Federation Council still prevailed.
Original Federation Council Structure: Each member species may elect as many Councilors as it wishes, but they are collectively allowed only three Council Votes to allocate among themselves by whatever internal mechanism they see fit. The Federation President is elected from among the Councilors and has the ability to set the agenda as well as serve as tie-breaker for any votes.
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Memo from Vitalia Yukiko Kahurangi to my Successor (39/?)
Title: Meet the Snakepit (Federation Council)
I call my yearly meetings with the Federation Council "the Snakepit". You'll find out why soon enough. I assume you're already well briefed on Council membership and basic civics, but these are my personal
spoilering this, because it's meta reasoning based on the many games I have read/seen.
If we are just crossing the 80 mark right now, the system is horribly broken. the task is not just very difficult (30-60quarters), but annoying difficult (80-120quarters).
It's just bad game play mechanics no matter how it happens. Eventual it will slog down to a non-interesting mess of redundant report and have to be regulated to background events. by the time it ends it will be so unimportant that we as the players will simply not care anymore on a fundamental level. it will simply be something that is, not something that is important. by the end, we simply won't care except in a sense of, hey, that annoying cost mechanic is gone manner.
currently, what I believe is happening is the rescilliance is deducting the amount from the Impact before the impact is listed. or when the initial amounts for cost/impact are generated befor he writes up the events.
In game plot terms.. I can see it happening both ways. that we are just crossing the 80 threshold, and the 200 threshold.
It's just bad game play mechanics no matter how it happens. Eventual it will slog down to a non-interesting mess of redundant report and have to be regulated to background events. by the time it ends it will be so unimportant that we as the players will simply not care anymore on a fundamental level. it will simply be something that is, not something that is important. by the end, we simply won't care except in a sense of, hey, that annoying cost mechanic is gone manner.
currently, what I believe is happening is the rescilliance is deducting the amount from the Impact before the impact is listed. or when the initial amounts for cost/impact are generated befor he writes up the events.
In game plot terms.. I can see it happening both ways. that we are just crossing the 80 threshold, and the 200 threshold.
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The important thing to remember is that absolutely no one is ever going to agree about how the Federation's economy works, so just do whatever you want.
Two Shodars have been taken down so far. Given that the entire operation on New Rigel was run by an Alasho... how many Shodars can they have? Few enough that an entire colony won't have one, but many enough that killing two doesn't affect them much? Hm.
I think the post where first shodar we took down mentioned how many shodars there were in total. It was a single didget number if I remember.
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The date that you realised you cross the threshold has nothing to do with the date you cross the threshold.
Five on Alukk, apparently.
In theory then they're down to 3/5 on Alukk, plus replacements.
e: The other one, in case you missed it:
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If there's 5 on Alukk, with 20(?) pop, then there's one for every four pop.
Too tired/lazy to do dive and find more info to math right now, but that should give us an idea.
So, at some point in the future we hit the 800 impact mark. It is another year before our analysts go, yep, no sign on syndicate activity. Wrap it up. Go home. Party!
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Another (pessimistic) interpretation: we hit 80 a while ago and only just realised.
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The one we did catch alive is mentioned to have committed suicide in custody. Almost certainly they've both been replaced by now, but the nice thing about violent power transitions is they'll keep on losing the institutional knowledge they need to effectively prosecute a campaign against us, especially because the Aerocommandoes keep on killing everyone around the Shodar in the process.
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good to know, so were somewhere between 80 and 200 actual then. instead of at them absolutly. which make a lot more sense and releaves a lot of my fears about the conflict. thanks OneirosTheWriter ^_^
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It's unlikely it's strictly by population. Alukk almost certainly has more proportionally.
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True, but it's a good starting point.
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Ahahahaha, holy shit these rolls, oh dear oh dear
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Election rolls?
One of the votes that is going to happen in Q2 is setting the Intelligence priorities for the year. Questions I think we should consider:
1. Syndicate Resilience
2. Sydraxian Shipbuilding
3. Locations of Sydraxian major colonies
4. Romulan Fleet Strength
5. Licori/Ked Paddah war details (when did it start, who is winning, is peace on the table)
6. Cardassian posture with regards to Apiata (Are the Apiata attacks working and making them back off, or are they gearing up for a big military response?)
Reasons why each of these are important:
1. To stop the thread from freaking out trying to calculate Syndicate Resilience.
2. To know how much the Sydraxians are growing as a threat.
3. To prepare if it does become open war.
4. Because we have to have a Romulan report and this will help us figure what their odds are against the Klingons.
5. Because this war has a chance of dragging in the Gaeni and hence us. We need to know what we're dealing with here.
6. Because this is critical and the Apiata probably have crap intelligence on their own.
I was actually hoping for some exciting results from the election rolls. My one hope is that Stesk doesn't lose his seat. The man's an institution!
1. Syndicate Resilience
2. Sydraxian Shipbuilding
3. Locations of Sydraxian major colonies
4. Romulan Fleet Strength
5. Licori/Ked Paddah war details (when did it start, who is winning, is peace on the table)
6. Cardassian posture with regards to Apiata (Are the Apiata attacks working and making them back off, or are they gearing up for a big military response?)
Reasons why each of these are important:
1. To stop the thread from freaking out trying to calculate Syndicate Resilience.
2. To know how much the Sydraxians are growing as a threat.
3. To prepare if it does become open war.
4. Because we have to have a Romulan report and this will help us figure what their odds are against the Klingons.
5. Because this war has a chance of dragging in the Gaeni and hence us. We need to know what we're dealing with here.
6. Because this is critical and the Apiata probably have crap intelligence on their own.
I was actually hoping for some exciting results from the election rolls. My one hope is that Stesk doesn't lose his seat. The man's an institution!
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Not ominous. Definitely not ominous.
How worried we should be if X wins big:
Mercantile? Trade you some stuff for that Romulan ale. (Plz no, there's matters of national security)
Hawks? Hello, here's more budget. Now go and build more escorts. Also, deal with the Sydraxians. And the Borders. We need more ships in our borders. And starbases.
- In response to a Sydraxian raid: "The fleet size just got doubled"
Expansionist supermajority? Yay? I like this new budget.
Pacifist? Plz no
Development? Starbases! Shipyards! More infrastructure.
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Is this good or bad for us?