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To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest) Starfleet Ship Design Bureau, Refit ("To Boldly Go...")
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I'd like us to build more 2.5mt ones, in anticipation of the Ambassador class eventually hogging the 3mts. We're gonna need to refit our Excelsiors, and we are going to want to build more of them, and we're not going to want to interfere with the Ambies when we do.
 
Just checking, are larger ships more crew-efficient (as in per point of stat) than smaller ships?
 
aeqnai said:
I'd like us to build more 2.5mt ones, in anticipation of the Ambassador class eventually hogging the 3mts. We're gonna need to refit our Excelsiors, and we are going to want to build more of them, and we're not going to want to interfere with the Ambies when we do.
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What's the difference in cost between a 2.5 mt berth and a 3mt berth. if it's not much, we should just build the 3mt forthe flexibility.
 
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EOY - 2311
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    • End of Year Report Card - 2311

    Starting Resources
    1160 Bulk Resources
    525 Special Resources
    181 Political Will
    189 Research Points

    Starting Personnel Pool
    Standard Starfleet: 29.6 Officer, 41.8 Enlisted, 30.7 Techs
    Explorer Corps: 8.5 Officer, 10.25 Enlisted, 11.2 Techs

    Spent During the Year
    Expenditure

    575 Bulk Industrial Resources
    395 Special Industrial Resources
    181 Political Will
    218 Research Points

    Casualties
    Standard: - 2 Officer, 3 Enlisted, 3 Technician
    Explorer: -

    Career Casualties
    Standard: 11 Officer, 20 Enlisted, 14 Technician
    Explorer: 6 Officer, 7 Enlisted, 6 Technician

    1 Excelsior, 1 Constellation, 1 Centaur, 3 Miranda

    Gained During the Year

    Political Rewards

    +25pp, +10rp for Rigel Ratification

    Request Mining Colony at Tagh Pakot, 8pp (4 turns, gain +15 sr / year)
    Request Mining Colony at Lapycorias XIII, 8pp (4 turns, gain +25 br/year)
    Request Research Colony at Ke'Luur, 8pp (6 turns, gain +7rp/year)


    Anti-Slavery Operations
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    Starting Impact/Cost: 65/24
    End Impact/Cost: 175/65(55)

    Political Will Income Penalty: 65 (Cost - Resilience) = 55% of Annual Income

    USS Enterprise
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    +15pp
    +10rp

    +25 with Kadesh

    +1 Crew Rating

    USS Courageous
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    +10pp
    +10rp

    +4 Impact

    +10 with Gaeni
    +10 with Licori


    USS Sarek
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    +5pp
    +10rp
    +35br
    +25sr

    +25 with Indoria



    USS Miracht
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    +15rp
    +25 with Gaeni

    Found the Honiani

    Lost in Action

    USS S'harien
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    +5pp
    +10rp

    Escaped Attack
    +2 Cost
    +25 with Qloathi


    Crew Rating + 1 (Blooded)


    Other Ships
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    USS T'Mir - Spying

    USS Avandar - +5rp, +5pp, Lost Caitian Swarmer
    USS Endurance - +5pp, Found Licori, Found Ked Paddah, Intercepted Yrillian
    USS Salnas - +10rp, +3 Impact
    USS Cheron - +8 Impact
    USS Challorn - +5pp, +25 with Apiata
    USS Bull - New Research Colony option Aga Carmide 7rp/year
    USS Inspire - Resuced USS Thirishar
    USS Thirishar - Rescued by USS Inspire
    USS Excelsior - +5pp, Intercepted Romulans
    USS Winterwind - +15pp

    Ship Movements
    Fleet Redistributed Q4

    Ships Lost
    USS Lion
    USS Miracht

    Ships Damaged
    USS Kearsage

    Ships Scrapped
    None

    Ships Laid Down
    2 Excelsior


    Ships Crewed
    1 Excelsior (Explorer Corps)
    5 Constitution-B
    1 Oberth

    Ship Commissioned
    USS Thirishar - Excelsior, NCC-2011


    Final Stockpile with Annual Income
    1160 - 575 + 35 + 710 = 1330 Bulk Resources
    525 - 395 + 25 + 460 = 615 Special Resources
    181 - 181 + 95 + 34 = 129 Political Will
    189 - 218 + 80 + 134 = 185 Research Points

    New Personnel Pool
    Standard Starfleet: 23.05 Officer, 32.2 Enlisted, 18.9 Techs
    Explorer Corps: 11.00 Officer, 12.45 Enlisted, 13.4 Techs
     
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    • Muramasa said:
    By the way, how are we doing on shipyard berth's? Do we need more or is the current amount sufficient?
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    We technically have the capacity to handle our shipbuilding plans up to the next decade. However, there isn't much slack in it, and the current plans don't even take into account the Excelsior-A refits, which combined with cruiser and escort builds are expected to fill up all our berth space for at least a couple years.

    So I do want more berths. Just not sure if we'll have the pp to spare next year.

    Due to Syndicate cost, we're now down to an annual pp income of 34pp (73 75 base pp * (1 - (65 Syndicate cost - 10 resilience))/100). (I'm rounding to nearest integer - dunno if that's what'll actually happen.) Fortunately we did get 85pp in event income after the snakepit this year.

    edit: oh ninja'd by EOY update. Time to do my audit...

    Yeangst said:
    What's the difference in cost between a 2.5 mt berth and a 3mt berth. if it's not much, we should just build the 3mt forthe flexibility.
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    We have a LOT of options for shipyard berths and they all have different costs, even for the same berth sizes:
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    • Request expansion of San Francisco Fleet Yards, 15pp (4 turns, gain new 1m t berth) [Can take multiple times, +5pp per subsequent build]
    • Request expansion of 40 Eridani A Shipyards, 20pp (4 turns, gain new 1m t berth) [Can take multiple times, +5pp per subsequent build]
    • Request expansion of Ana Font Shipyard, 15pp (4 turns, gain 1 new 1m t berth) [Can take multiple times, +5pp per subsequent build]
    • Request expansion of Lor'Vela Orbital Construction Facility, 15pp (4 turns, gain 1 new 1m t berth) [Can take multiple times, +5pp per subsequent build]
    • Request Excelsior berth at a shipyard, 40pp (6 turns, gain new 3m t berth) [+5 for every extra 3mt berth present at shipyard past the first]
    • Request Cruiser berth at Utopia Planitia, 15pp (6 turns, gain new 2m t berth)
    • Request expansion of Utopia Planitia, 40pp, (4 turns, gain 1 3mt, 1 1mt berth)
    • Request new Shipyard at Betazed, 30pp (8 turns, 2 1mt Berths)
    • Request new Shipyard at Amarkia, 45pp (12 turns, 1 3mt Berth, 1 1mt Berth)
    • Request new Shipyard at Ferasa, 35pp, (12 turns, 1 3mt Berth)
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    ...In which Starfleet loses half its political influence trying to fight in Space 'Nam -__-
     
    Going to stink but hopefully we have started to make head way and over time as we take out more of them cost should hopefully drop.
     
    Derek58 said:
    We added almost 100 Impact and took only 37 Cost in return this year.

    We're doing great.
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    Yep! Unfortunately, we need at least 800 impact, from the quote below. So, five to seven more years of effort and reduced political will until the syndicate is wiped out. That's assuming we don't start accelerating the gains over the years.

    OneirosTheWriter said:
    Syndicate strength and how much Impact do we need?

    ...

    [80/200/400/800 Impact are thresholds to reduce the number of actions available to the Syndicate]
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    OneirosTheWriter said:
    Political Will Income Penalty: 12 (Carryover) + 37 (Cost - Resilience) = 49% of Annual Income
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    I'm getting a total of 12 (2310 Carryover) + 53 (2311 Cost) - 10 Resilience = 55% of annual pp income. And I'm totaling 75pp base annual income.

    I'll double check...

    Final Stockpile with Annual Income
    1160 - 575 + 35 + 685 = 1305 Bulk Resources
    525 - 395 + 25 + 445 = 525 Special Resources
    181 - 181 + 70 + 39 = 109 Political Will
    189 - 218 + 70 + 129 = 170 Research Points

    New Personnel Pool
    Standard Starfleet: 28.2 Officer, 38.1 Enlisted, 25.8 Techs
    Explorer Corps: 10.75 Officer, 12.20 Enlisted, 13.2 Techs
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    I need to double check everything, but numbers I'm getting are:

    Resources:
    1160 - 575 + 35 + 720 710 = 1340 1330 Bulk Resources
    525 - 395 + 25 + 460 = 615 Special Resources
    181 - 181 + 95 + 34* = 109 129 Political Will
    189 - 218 + 80 + 134 = 185 Research Points

    * round(75 * (1 - (24/2 + 53 - 10)/100)) = 34

    Standard Starfleet:
    29.7* - 17 + 0 + 10.45 = 23.15 Officer
    41.8 - 22 + 0 + 12.4 = 32.2 Enlisted
    30.7 - 26 + 0 + 14.2 = 18.9 Technician

    * You start the year with 29.6 despite EOY 2310 having it as 29.7 - a hidden correction?

    Explorer Corps:
    8.5 - 6 + 6 + 2.5 = 11 Officer
    10.25 - 5 + 5 + 2.2 = 12.45 Enlisted
    11.2 - 5 + 5 + 2.2 = 13.4 Technician

    At a glance, I believe you're missing the Rigel ratification income increases, along with the 10pp that was missing in the snakepit that I noted here (or maybe 5pp as that post notes). I think you're also missing an affiliate crew bonus, and some other odds and ends.

    edit: I'll come up with a full audit within a couple hours.
     
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    HearthBorn said:
    Yep! Unfortunately, we need at least 800 impact, from the quote below. So, five to seven more years of effort and reduced political will until the syndicate is wiped out. That's assuming we don't start accelerating the gains over the years.
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    We probably will as we upsize the fleet and have more assets to throw at them. Syndies aren't going to like the Connie-B wave.
     
    2312.Q1 - A New Beginning
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    • You are President sh'Arrath, and you now face one of the most delicate decisions of your time in office. The various electoral systems that different worlds use to determine their Council representatives will be going into action for all the old guard members. A total of twenty-five of the thirty-eight seats, including all but two of your faction colleagues. And before you sits a list of the candidates for what is without doubt the single most crucial unelected role in the entire Federation: the next commander of Starfleet. The heir to Admiral Kahurangi.

    The old Admiral had given the Federation an eleven-year long span of a steady hand on the tiller. From your experience she was an expansionist by nature, with a certain affinity for the pacifists and developers. Her work had done much to push expansionism in the public imagination, which most likely led to your election. As much as the head of Starfleet, in an ideal world, would have little public influence, you know it isn't so. Whoever you pick will influence the path that the Federation takes in tangible ways. You must take the utmost care to pick the right candidate. Kahurangi's predecessor is a cautionary tale to what happens if you get it wrong.

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    From: Councilor Hayley Singh, X-Alpha Centauri
    To: President Jorlyth sh'Arrath, X-Landle IV
    Subject: The Successor

    Ms President,

    I have compiled the list of Vice Admirals with sufficient time in rank to not look like funny business (no one with under four years as a Vice Admiral). If you have any questions, please let me know. All of these names are familiar to you, I'm sure.

    [ ] Vice Admiral Valentina Sousa
    Human Female, 61
    Time in Rank, 16 Years

    [ ] Vice Admiral Heidi Eriksson
    Human Female, 65
    Time in Rank, 7 Years

    [ ] Vice Admiral Lachlan Ablett
    Human Male, 65, 14 Years

    [ ] Vice Admiral Rinias ch'Vohlet
    Andorian Chan, 60
    Time in Rank, 6 Years

    As an aside, I would strongly suggest that in future we take measures to cycle through Admirals a little more quickly. Kahurangi's tenure has been very good to us, but 11 years in the job should not become the norm!

    Dutifully,
    Hayley Sing, UFP Councillor
     
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