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The grand conspiracy of the Federation revealed at last!
To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)
- Thread starter OneirosTheWriter
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UbeOne
Daydreaming CPU
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- Philippines
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We have a conspiracy?
I can try, though note that last one is difficult. Neighboring polities can often end up in a number of different sectors, even when a border zone exists. We've had Sydraxian events in Amarkia sector, just off the top of my head.
Will correct those.
(Regarding the Licori brder zone.) I'll think about it, though I have to say that the Licori Border Zone hasn't been very busy. The last event calling upon any of the ships there was a full year ago back in 2316.Q2.
Well if it's randomized, then aren't important Presence checks equally likely to show up anywhere?
lbmaian
a thirsty squirrel
- Location
- USA
...I found something weird. Sol sector's Pathfinder+Lightning responded to a Laio event in Q1 this year ... when Laio is like right across the LBZ border. The excuse of requiring an Excelsior doesn't fly either, since the LBZ's Rru'adorr should've worked just as well.
If there's any sector that should be responsible for the Laio, it should be the LBZ, or failing that, Rigel sector, then Sol sector as a final fallback.
Curious.
Thebigpieman
I've got this, I think.
- Location
- United States
"Territories, peoples, authorities... all will be liberated. This is the new state, 'A World With No Boundaries' will create. Neither nations nor nationalities have meaning. We will erase these unnecessary borders."
Right, so... where were we?
Nervos Belli
Don't think this means you've won!
- Location
- Murica
I've always figured that sectors were purely a Starfleet designation, and that member governments weren't constrained by them. It's not like Vega became independent from United Earth when it got shunted into the SBZ, after all. And I assume the UESPA sends patrols up that way every once in a while even though it isn't in Sol sector, because it's a UE colony. So from a purely narrative perspective I've got no issue with Orion space being divided between the Amarkia and Ferasa sector. The only issue I can see is how it might impact event response and member fleets, but I don't know enough about how that's determined to say whether that's a significant problem.
Night
Widow Null
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- Hoff
The possibility of an event is not random. Important presence checks, ones that matter to our relations with other states and affiliates, are likely to take place in certain areas. Whether one actually happens is a roll of the dice.
The lack of previous events thus is not a reliable indicator of the possibility of future events.
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lbmaian
a thirsty squirrel
- Location
- USA
Yeah, I've been thinking our sectors were something along those lines. That the sectors, strictly speaking, only govern Starfleet's operational jurisdictions.
It's just that because Starfleet often has to work with member nations and their fleets, it's very convenient if Starfleet's sector boundaries align with member nation boundaries wherever possible. Otherwise, it would be more of a pain having to coordinate with more member fleets than necessary, or likewise coordinating multiple sector fleets when dealing with a member-wide issue that crosses sector boundaries.
What's unclear to me is how member fleets negotiate open borders and so forth. Whether the member borders and fleet access rights are negotiated and mandated by Council subcommittees, or as bilateral negotiations between neighboring members that the Federation only helps mediate. Meanwhile, the whole notion of border zones, and especially the Gabriel Border Zone, does show that the Council can directly control access to such territories that may be outside of any member nations' claims, excepting existing colonies.
aeqnai
Nerdy Homu
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- Laniakea Supercluster
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I actually asked about Vega once:
ClawClawBite
Mad Engineering!
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- Seattle, WA
Looking at the map, I'd do Allaek-Ferisia as a sector, and cut off Risa as the start of a Risa frontier sector.
- Location
- Patriarchova
Call it the Aquamarine Sector.
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- somewhere
I think it was just that a diplomatic event was generated for the Sol sector, not that the Laio generated an event that fell to the Sol sector instead of the LBZ to respond to (I think that events are only generated for for advanced affiliates).
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lbmaian
a thirsty squirrel
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- USA
This is possible, but if so, there's a mismatch in the prose. Events taking place in a sector almost always have some direct relevance to the sector. For example, this preliminary Arcadian War peace summit involving Ked Paddah and Gaeni was in Vulcan sector because it took place in Delta Vega:
Er, we have diplomacy-related events all the time with neutrals and minor affiliates. Indeed, I think it's the most common way we get affiliates in the first place.
A recent counterexample: 2316.Q3.M1 LBZ's Stalwart had a diplomacy event with Tauni, which were at 143 relations at the time.
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- somewhere
You are completely missing my point. I'm talking about what roll on what table resulted in the event OOC, not how the event came about IC. Those are completely different things, and the IC developments are not particularly informative about the former.
We know of the following sources of events:
- EC ships automatically get one event per quarter.
- Originally there was a roll on a table for each sector each quarter with a chance to generate a single event.
- "Affiliate sectors" also had a chance to generate events for neighboring sectors, at a lower rate.
- Later (some of) the event generation for sectors changed to rolls on a table for each major world, and presumably the affiliate sector event rolls were (partically) replaced by rolls for major worlds of advanced affiliates.
There has never been a hint of any events starting out as rolls on an event table for independent species or non-advanced affiliates.
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lbmaian
a thirsty squirrel
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- USA
Okay I misinterpreted what you were talking about, because what you're actually talking about has little bearing on the issue I was talking about:
That this diplomacy event with Laio didn't default to the nearest sector, the LBZ, and instead fell to a sector that no longer borders them, Sol sector, without any indication in the event prose as to why (like needing to ferry over diplomats from Earth or something).
edit: adding emphasis to make my point clear
That this diplomacy event with Laio didn't default to the nearest sector, the LBZ, and instead fell to a sector that no longer borders them, Sol sector, without any indication in the event prose as to why (like needing to ferry over diplomats from Earth or something).
edit: adding emphasis to make my point clear
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It was probably something along the lines of:
Roll for event in Sol Sector
Event occurred - roll for type
Minor Diplomacy rolled - roll for race
Laio rolled - rolled for responder
Responder selected - roll for attendance/success
Create a brief description that sort of matches what was rolled.
Roll for event in Sol Sector
Event occurred - roll for type
Minor Diplomacy rolled - roll for race
Laio rolled - rolled for responder
Responder selected - roll for attendance/success
Create a brief description that sort of matches what was rolled.
lbmaian
a thirsty squirrel
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- USA
Yeah, I'm aware of that. That's not my point though; I'm just criticizing the "curious" narrative disconnect there. I did just quote a previous example with how that Vulcan sector event involving Ked Paddah and Gaeni made sense in the narrative - the summit was held in Delta Vega.
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Apparently you are still missing my point somehow? I explained why that happened OOC. There is nothing left to explain IC, because the process is to dress up the rolled parts of the event with enough flavor to make reasonable sense, but requiring so much fine tuning that the rolled details are what makes the most sense for the overall narrative of the event when compared to hypothetical different details would be excessive and increase Oneiros workload beyond what's feasible. We have seen this many times before, mostly with event rewards that don't fit the narrative all that well.
Captain's Log - 2317.Q2.M2
- Location
- Australia
Captain's Log, USS Odyssey, Stardate 26361.4 - Captain Langa Mbeki
A former Directorate science base, now a colonial town hall, on Lomay, will be the venue for the accords that should bring a close to this turbulent chapter of Caldonian history. The Odyssey and Hood are providing protection for the event, with our own Odyssey's sleek lines being kept in geosynchronous orbit. The Caldonians are great fans of the Excelsiors and this should go a long way to keeping both sides focused on the main idea: science in peace.
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Captain's Log, USS Stargazer, Stardate 26361.8 - Captain Maryam Ajam
We are approaching an installation in deep space - the best guess of our science officers is that it was once part of a solar system before a gravitational perturbation sent it out on an escape trajectory, until it ended up here. It is vastly old, and as well made as it was originally, it has clearly seen better days. The many, many years have weighed on it, but there is still a flicker of power, if only a spark compared to the vast output that our sensors show it must once of had.
It is not a mighty fastness, being perhaps the size of a Federation Outpost, but you still get a sense of wonder as you look at it and consider the long-dead hands that built it. It feels at once alien, yet familiar, and my Kadeshi colleagues tell me the same.
We are sending boarding teams across, while Karen Sarjan is apparently attempting to connect to the main computer, over the protests of many of her command staff.
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Captain's Log, USS Voshov, Stardate 26362.3
[Classified 1-A]
Starfleet Intelligence put in a call, and we are returning from unclaimed space into Sydraxian space, given cover to approach by XXXXXXXX.
[Chief of Staff's NB: He's scrubbed the mention, but it's the Concerned Citizens group and the Hasque Churnax]
We have a lead on where a key Obsidian Order outpost in Sydraxian space may have been set up, but our field intel people need some assistance tapping the signals. We will be approaching one of the subspace comms relay buoys and doing a little creative maintenance.
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Captain's Log, USS Thirishar, Stardate 26362.5
A Klingon Empire envoy arrived in a civilian ship to discuss arrangements for getting diplomatic access to their interned crew. We are more than happy to assist. We've entertained a few of the Klingons aboard for dinner, including the diplomat and his staff, and heard many fascinating tales of their war with the Romulan Star Empire.
[Admiral's NB: Things have certainly come a long way since I was a young officer...]
[Gain +10pp, strength ties with the Klingons. Free War Update Report]
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Captain's Log, USS Avandar, Stardate 26362.9
Someone has fouled up, and I don't envy the investigators who are going to have to piece it together. A Yan-Ros expedition was delivering a research specimen to the Rigellians, and while they prepared the holding facilities on another orbital platform, it was held at the Starbase, in parts still largely occupied by their government. It got out, and got into the infrastructure of the Starbase.
Did I mention it was disruptive to sensors?
Did I mention it doesn't require oxygen?
As Rigellians start going missing, Commodore Sinok calls in every available ship in the area, so we respond with the Selaya close behind. A visiting Honiani cruiser activated two War Plates and their security staff and constributed. A Turtleship beamed over security. Unfortunately, the Yan-Ros consider this particular creature a more easily controlled threat, and did not have a Ranger aboard. Much to the chagrin of their Captain. Recognising that this creature was more than capable of turning the engineering spaces of the Starbase into a bloody mess, we ordered all non-essentials out of the area and started sweeping. We lost two patrol teams to the creature, but we were finally able to convert the sensors to trace the effect that the creature had on the metals of the jefferies tubes, and were able to corner it and bring it down with isomagnetic disintegrators. Something I never expected to be utilising at close quarters in a Starbase.
I apologise for any unprofessionalism in this log, but I am very, very tired.
[Gain +5pp, +25 with Yan-Ros and Honiani, casualties minimised]
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Captain's Log, USS Typhoon, Stardate 26363.3
A moon that has long been the subject of speculation by Caldonian scientists was surveyed, and found to bear out their suspicions. A variety of rare ores can be located there once one uses the Straak-Bergman Reassociative Analysis tool.
[Gain +20sr]
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Captain's Log, USS Voshov, Stardate 26363.6
A secret Obsidian Order base was destroyed by approaching from further along the asteroid belt and free-floating a pair of photon torpedoes in the same orbital track. With sufficient time and access to the blast site, they may be able to pin it to Federation anti-matter production techniques, but we strongly believe that with the fall of both the Reds and the Blues, they will have neither time nor access. Not that they don't suspect us anyway. Office 37's teams have defended against a counter-attack on a safe house already.
However, with the destruction of the Obsidian Order outpost, we are being told that pretty much any of the remaining Red, Blue, or Green faction officers are fleeing Sydraxian space, mainly for Yrillian space, but some for Gretarian or Federation space.
With that out of the way, our diplomats have started the first meetings between the Graduates and Vanguard to establish a compromise government. It may not work, and the Sydraxians may descend into outright civil war, but we have to try.
[Gain +5 with Sydraxians, remaining Cardassian influence in Sydraxian space neutralised]
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Captain's Log, USS Odyssey, Stardate 26363.9
The Lomay V Accords are signed and delivered, with promises of representation in the Directorate for leading groups among the ostracised scientists, more open and transparent peer review processes, and a variety of other measures. Stability has been achieved.
This has been the work of millions, and I have played only a small part in it. But I do not think there has been a prouder moment in my life since I donned this uniform. This campaign of diplomacy and hope has cost me a personal tragedy, but for the billions of Caldonians caught in what could have been a vicious cycle, Starfleet has come through.
[Gain +15pp, an effective end to major dissident action in Caldonia]
[Chief of Staff's NB: You're never going to believe this, but I have a personal note of thanks here from the head of the Diplomatic Service]
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Captain's Log, USS Stargazer, Stardate 26365.9
A device has been retrieved from the outpost, one that Karen knew was there, though she had trouble communicating that to anyone. Her mind is ... muddled somewhat. Working with the Preserver's AI has cleared her thoughts somewhat, but she still has a ways to go. The device is, surprisingly for Preserver technology, relatively easy to duplicate, and we are sending details back to the Federation. It provides an effective means for synthesising a number of ultra-rare components used in shield and sensor assemblies
Unfortunately, the drain on the power systems removed the last protections on the reactor, and the preserver outpost immolated itself. We were frustrated by this, but Karen tells us that it was important to do according to the Preserver database. We can only go along with what she says here.
[All Federation members and affiliates gain +10sr/yr income]
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A former Directorate science base, now a colonial town hall, on Lomay, will be the venue for the accords that should bring a close to this turbulent chapter of Caldonian history. The Odyssey and Hood are providing protection for the event, with our own Odyssey's sleek lines being kept in geosynchronous orbit. The Caldonians are great fans of the Excelsiors and this should go a long way to keeping both sides focused on the main idea: science in peace.
-
Captain's Log, USS Stargazer, Stardate 26361.8 - Captain Maryam Ajam
We are approaching an installation in deep space - the best guess of our science officers is that it was once part of a solar system before a gravitational perturbation sent it out on an escape trajectory, until it ended up here. It is vastly old, and as well made as it was originally, it has clearly seen better days. The many, many years have weighed on it, but there is still a flicker of power, if only a spark compared to the vast output that our sensors show it must once of had.
It is not a mighty fastness, being perhaps the size of a Federation Outpost, but you still get a sense of wonder as you look at it and consider the long-dead hands that built it. It feels at once alien, yet familiar, and my Kadeshi colleagues tell me the same.
We are sending boarding teams across, while Karen Sarjan is apparently attempting to connect to the main computer, over the protests of many of her command staff.
-
Captain's Log, USS Voshov, Stardate 26362.3
[Classified 1-A]
Starfleet Intelligence put in a call, and we are returning from unclaimed space into Sydraxian space, given cover to approach by XXXXXXXX.
[Chief of Staff's NB: He's scrubbed the mention, but it's the Concerned Citizens group and the Hasque Churnax]
We have a lead on where a key Obsidian Order outpost in Sydraxian space may have been set up, but our field intel people need some assistance tapping the signals. We will be approaching one of the subspace comms relay buoys and doing a little creative maintenance.
-
Captain's Log, USS Thirishar, Stardate 26362.5
A Klingon Empire envoy arrived in a civilian ship to discuss arrangements for getting diplomatic access to their interned crew. We are more than happy to assist. We've entertained a few of the Klingons aboard for dinner, including the diplomat and his staff, and heard many fascinating tales of their war with the Romulan Star Empire.
[Admiral's NB: Things have certainly come a long way since I was a young officer...]
[Gain +10pp, strength ties with the Klingons. Free War Update Report]
-
Captain's Log, USS Avandar, Stardate 26362.9
Someone has fouled up, and I don't envy the investigators who are going to have to piece it together. A Yan-Ros expedition was delivering a research specimen to the Rigellians, and while they prepared the holding facilities on another orbital platform, it was held at the Starbase, in parts still largely occupied by their government. It got out, and got into the infrastructure of the Starbase.
Did I mention it was disruptive to sensors?
Did I mention it doesn't require oxygen?
As Rigellians start going missing, Commodore Sinok calls in every available ship in the area, so we respond with the Selaya close behind. A visiting Honiani cruiser activated two War Plates and their security staff and constributed. A Turtleship beamed over security. Unfortunately, the Yan-Ros consider this particular creature a more easily controlled threat, and did not have a Ranger aboard. Much to the chagrin of their Captain. Recognising that this creature was more than capable of turning the engineering spaces of the Starbase into a bloody mess, we ordered all non-essentials out of the area and started sweeping. We lost two patrol teams to the creature, but we were finally able to convert the sensors to trace the effect that the creature had on the metals of the jefferies tubes, and were able to corner it and bring it down with isomagnetic disintegrators. Something I never expected to be utilising at close quarters in a Starbase.
I apologise for any unprofessionalism in this log, but I am very, very tired.
[Gain +5pp, +25 with Yan-Ros and Honiani, casualties minimised]
-
Captain's Log, USS Typhoon, Stardate 26363.3
A moon that has long been the subject of speculation by Caldonian scientists was surveyed, and found to bear out their suspicions. A variety of rare ores can be located there once one uses the Straak-Bergman Reassociative Analysis tool.
[Gain +20sr]
-
Captain's Log, USS Voshov, Stardate 26363.6
A secret Obsidian Order base was destroyed by approaching from further along the asteroid belt and free-floating a pair of photon torpedoes in the same orbital track. With sufficient time and access to the blast site, they may be able to pin it to Federation anti-matter production techniques, but we strongly believe that with the fall of both the Reds and the Blues, they will have neither time nor access. Not that they don't suspect us anyway. Office 37's teams have defended against a counter-attack on a safe house already.
However, with the destruction of the Obsidian Order outpost, we are being told that pretty much any of the remaining Red, Blue, or Green faction officers are fleeing Sydraxian space, mainly for Yrillian space, but some for Gretarian or Federation space.
With that out of the way, our diplomats have started the first meetings between the Graduates and Vanguard to establish a compromise government. It may not work, and the Sydraxians may descend into outright civil war, but we have to try.
[Gain +5 with Sydraxians, remaining Cardassian influence in Sydraxian space neutralised]
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Captain's Log, USS Odyssey, Stardate 26363.9
The Lomay V Accords are signed and delivered, with promises of representation in the Directorate for leading groups among the ostracised scientists, more open and transparent peer review processes, and a variety of other measures. Stability has been achieved.
This has been the work of millions, and I have played only a small part in it. But I do not think there has been a prouder moment in my life since I donned this uniform. This campaign of diplomacy and hope has cost me a personal tragedy, but for the billions of Caldonians caught in what could have been a vicious cycle, Starfleet has come through.
[Gain +15pp, an effective end to major dissident action in Caldonia]
[Chief of Staff's NB: You're never going to believe this, but I have a personal note of thanks here from the head of the Diplomatic Service]
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Captain's Log, USS Stargazer, Stardate 26365.9
A device has been retrieved from the outpost, one that Karen knew was there, though she had trouble communicating that to anyone. Her mind is ... muddled somewhat. Working with the Preserver's AI has cleared her thoughts somewhat, but she still has a ways to go. The device is, surprisingly for Preserver technology, relatively easy to duplicate, and we are sending details back to the Federation. It provides an effective means for synthesising a number of ultra-rare components used in shield and sensor assemblies
Unfortunately, the drain on the power systems removed the last protections on the reactor, and the preserver outpost immolated itself. We were frustrated by this, but Karen tells us that it was important to do according to the Preserver database. We can only go along with what she says here.
[All Federation members and affiliates gain +10sr/yr income]
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Alastor Mobius Toth
***** ***
- Location
- Neon Ghetto
To boldly go indeed.