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- Peterborough, NH, USA
Besides, his charisma will be useful riding herd on the insane number of new Councilers and the upheavals from a near-doubling of member races. Say, if we get big enough, can a civilization become affiliation-able?
To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)
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Besides, his charisma will be useful riding herd on the insane number of new Councilers and the upheavals from a near-doubling of member races. Say, if we get big enough, can a civilization become affiliation-able?
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We can only dream, sadly.
Honestly as well, I wonder if Shey isn't a little too experienced. He's been a Chief of Staff for a long time now. That's great for knowing the job, but when was the last time he had to make a big decision without having it backstopped by Kahurangi or Sousa? He might actually be a really poor fit for being where the buck stops.
Night
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- Hoff
The other thing is that Shey gets a lot of face time with the President, and might well be mildly hostile due to her cavalier treatment of Sousa. The President probably knows it.
Sulu's deals will probably involve either extra intelligence operations and/or networking with the FDS.
(Re: Uniforms; I'm a DS9 black/grey with the collar man myself)
Sulu's deals will probably involve either extra intelligence operations and/or networking with the FDS.
(Re: Uniforms; I'm a DS9 black/grey with the collar man myself)
UbeOne
Daydreaming CPU
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- Philippines
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On what grounds?
lbmaian
a thirsty squirrel
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- USA
FYI @Nix, this accounting does rely on Laio being an affiliate. Otherwise, the annual income would've been 14.95 O, 18.3 E, 19.2 T.
... Hmm, the front page's relations numbers are fairly out of date.
Actually would be 198 annual income, since the new GBZ colony will be operational in 2316, giving us another +2rp (and +1pp):
Starfleet only has 2 prospectors (and 6 colony ships), both in the GBZ, but there's some good news on that front. The Vulcans should be finishing a prospector* for us by 2316 Q1, and our own Lasieth shipyards should finish a prospector by Q2.
Meanwhile the Amarki just finished their 4th prospector and already have one in the GBZ. The Apiata use Foragers (their science ship that should make Starfleet uber-jealous) as prospectors, already have 2 in the GBZ, and have 6 more available if needed. The Caitians will be joining soon, and they have 2 prospectors available. Caitians are also building another prospector, but they just started it, so it won't be available for nearly 2 years.
* Although the 2314 Shipyards Ops state that the Vulcans are building us an engineering ship, that's incorrect, as we voted to build a prospector there:
2314 MWCO vote:
2314 Shipyard Ops:
2314 Shipyard Ops:
Lathriss might just be a common surname. Some Asian cultures reuse surnames a lot, and even European surnames can be really common, so unless we're told/omake'd otherwise, we can just assume these two Lathriss' are different individuals. Or, retcon if necessary
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Or: brothers/cousins.FYI @Nix, this accounting does rely on Laio being an affiliate. Otherwise, the annual income would've been 14.95 O, 18.3 E, 19.2 T.
... Hmm, the front page's relations numbers are fairly out of date.
Actually would be 198 annual income, since the new GBZ colony will be operational in 2316, giving us another +2rp (and +1pp):
Starfleet only has 2 prospectors (and 6 colony ships), both in the GBZ, but there's some good news on that front. The Vulcans should be finishing a prospector* for us by 2316 Q1, and our own Lasieth shipyards should finish a prospector by Q2.
Meanwhile the Amarki just finished their 4th prospector and already have one in the GBZ. The Apiata use Foragers (their science ship that should make Starfleet uber-jealous) as prospectors, already have 2 in the GBZ, and have 6 more available if needed. The Caitians will be joining soon, and they have 2 prospectors available. Caitians are also building another prospector, but they just started it, so it won't be available for nearly 2 years.
* Although the 2314 Shipyards Ops state that the Vulcans are building us an engineering ship, that's incorrect, as we voted to build a prospector there:
2314 MWCO vote:
2314 Shipyard Ops:
Lathriss might just be a common surname. Some Asian cultures reuse surnames a lot, and even European surnames can be really common, so unless we're told/omake'd otherwise, we can just assume these two Lathriss' are different individuals. Or, retcon if necessary
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- USA
Actually another possibility is if certain families tend towards the military so you could get the case with extended family that rise to high ranks in the military.Lathriss might just be a common surname. Some Asian cultures reuse surnames a lot, and even European surnames can be really common, so unless we're told/omake'd otherwise, we can just assume these two Lathriss' are different individuals. Or, retcon if necessary
Not really. As I showed earlier:
Chen is only three years younger then when Kahurangi took office. So even just Sulu's term will put her over. Another four years for Shey's term and she'd be 67, making her one of our oldest candidates.
lbmaian
a thirsty squirrel
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- USA
Just in case the Shipyard Ops vote goes up while I'm asleep, here is what I am advocating. FYI, the reason not to start the Constellation refits until Q3 is to match the deployment plan we already voted for.
[no vote][BUILD] 2316 2 Ambassadors, Resume 1 Miranda-A, 1 Excelsior refit, 2 Miranda-A refits, 2 Constellation Refits
[no vote][BUILD] 2316 2 Ambassadors, Resume 1 Miranda-A, 1 Excelsior refit, 2 Miranda-A refits, 2 Constellation Refits
- SF Berth A (3mt) – Move UP Berth B Excelsior build here in 2316.Q2 (ETC 2317.Q1)
- SF Berth 1 (1mt) – Resume interrupted build for Miranda-A NCC-1665 in 2316.Q1. Note: 1 quarter year of build done, resource cost already paid. (ETC 2317.Q4)
- SF Berth 2 (1mt) – Leave empty.
- 40 Eridani Berth A (3mt) – Sojourner repair/refit continues. (ETC 2316.Q3)
- 40 Eridani Berth B (3mt) – Endurance repair/refit continues. (ETC 2316.Q3)
- 40 Eridani Berth 1 (1mt) – Begin refit of Svai in 2316.Q1 (ETC 2317.Q1)
- 40 Eridani Berth 2 (1mt) - Begin refit of Lion in 2316.Q1 (ETC 2317.Q1)
- Betazoid Shipyard Berth 1 (1mt) – Berth available as of 2316.Q2. In 2316.Q3, begin refit of Sappho to Constellation-A (ETC 2317.Q3)
- Betazoid Shipyard Berth 2 (1mt) – Berth available as of 2316.Q2. In 2316.Q3, begin refit of Challorn to Constellation-A (ETC 2317.Q3)
- Ana Font Berth A (2.5mt) - Occupied with Excelsior build (ETC 2317.Q1)
- Ana Font Berth 1 (1mt) - Occupied with Renaissance build (ETC 2317.Q2)
- LOCF Berth A (2.5mt) – Commence refit of Sarek in 2316.Q1. (ETC 2317.Q1)
- LOCF Berth 1 (1mt) – Occupied with Renaissance build (ETC 2318.Q2)
- UP Berth A (3mt) – Occupied with Excelsior-A double build using Chen's bonus (ETC 2318.Q2)
- UP Berth B (3mt) – In 2316.Q2 move Excelsior build to SF Berth A. In 2316.Q2 begin Ambassador prototype as dual build using Chen's bonus. (ETC 2321.Q4)
- UP Berth C (3mt) – Occupied with Excelsior-A double build using Chen's bonus (ETC 2318.Q2)
- UP Berth D (3mt) – Berth available as of 2316.Q2. In 2316.Q2 begin Ambassador prototype as dual build using Chen's bonus. (ETC 2321.Q4)
- UP Berth 1 (1mt) – When Renaissance completes in 2316.Q3, leave empty.
- UP Berth 2 (1mt) - When Renaissance completes in 2316.Q3, leave empty.
- UP Berth 3 (1mt) - When Renaissance completes in 2316.Q3, leave empty.
- UP Berth 4 (1mt) – Berth available as of 2316.Q2. Leave empty.
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- Academy City
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Earth grounds; Paris, if we're being specific
Nervos Belli
Don't think this means you've won!
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- Murica
They have their own separate budgets and crew pools that we don't have access to, and have their own auxiliary berths to build from. We also don't even know the costs of some ships. So no, we can't.
I estimate we could inform Auxiliary Command in 2317 that Ana Font Berth 1 will be open for 3 years if they want to build there. We can't make them build anything, but we could afford them the opportunity.
Night
Widow Null
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- Hoff
We know enough to know we could actually slip in a Rennie Hospital into one of our berths (because we've actually seen their budgets, during the hospital ship discussion). If we've finished the prototype. We can certainly make the offer.
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@NHO :
Precisely what do you want to propose? Exactly which of our 2316 builds are you planning to give up on for this purpose? The Miranda and Constellation refits? The Excelsior refit at Andor?
The Ambassador and Excelsior-A production at Utopia Planitia?
As Briefvoice notes, we seem to have openings at Ana Font starting in 2317, and one San Francisco berth starting this year, but there's no obvious sign of exactly what to do there. But it's generally good practice to say "can we do this, specifically" when trying to fix a complex plan.
Precisely what do you want to propose? Exactly which of our 2316 builds are you planning to give up on for this purpose? The Miranda and Constellation refits? The Excelsior refit at Andor?
The Ambassador and Excelsior-A production at Utopia Planitia?
As Briefvoice notes, we seem to have openings at Ana Font starting in 2317, and one San Francisco berth starting this year, but there's no obvious sign of exactly what to do there. But it's generally good practice to say "can we do this, specifically" when trying to fix a complex plan.
KlavoHunter
THOU SHALT WORSHIP NO GODS ABOVE ENTERPRISE!
On the grounds that she's sitting in his seat.
Nervos Belli
Don't think this means you've won!
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- Murica
The point is that we are issued our budget from the Federation for building exploration, scientific, and defense ships. Not hospital ships or cargo ships. If we are asked to do so we may donate materials and berth space to Auxiliary Command, and we can certainly offer them a spare berth if we have one, but we aren't supposed to be able to say, "oh, it looks like you need another prospector, let me build one for you." That would be improper use of our budget.
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Then it's a good thing we don't need to do that and that wasn't suggested.
Unless you're asking about basic feasibility, then you should probably be broad. Which is kind of what's going on.
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One of the snakepit options is to request a budget increase from the Federation Council; it wouldn't be inconceivable to request such an increase for Logistics Command, but I don't know if the Game Master is prepared to allow it.
In fact we have not finished the prototype hospital ship. ETC 2318Q1.
However, I do have some good news. The prospector ship we're building in the Auxiliary shipyards is ETC 2316.Q2, so auxiliary command can start another build this year in their own shipyard. And the two freighters they're building are ETC 2317.Q2. Some of the Auxiliary command ships are starting to sail out of dock already!
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Night
Widow Null
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- Hoff
Welp, scratch that plan then.