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[X][ADVICE] Madam President, Starfleet believes it is crucial we avoid drawing down in the Gabriel Expanse. The fighting there is not only over territory, but to attrit hostile forces and control borders. Therefore we need to find a way to fight the Arcadian Empire with what we have not committed to Gabriel. To this end, Starfleet requests that required sector garrison levels be eliminated until such time as either the Gabriel conflict or the Arcadian War is ended. It is our intent to generally keep at High Alert levels, and retain some presence in most sectors, but we need flexibility to draw as many reinforcements as required. Additionally, we will require support from member fleets. Starfleet requests that the United Earth, Rigellian, Betazed, and Vulcan forces be fully committed. The Caitian Grand Fleet, Amarkians, Indorians, and Apiata should remain in place to secure their respective borders/Gabriel territory and not tempt the Cardassians or their allies too much. We would request that the Andorian and Tellarite fleets be given permission to operate outside their sector borders for the duration, not to participate directly in the Arcadian war but to assist in required emergency responses in the Sol, Vulcan, and Rigel sectors given that nearly all ships will be pulled away from there. We may also need to draw at least some of the Explorer Corps off their Five Year Missions, though Starfleet retains a commitment to not abandoning Five Year Missions unless the circumstances are truly dire. On the matter of our planned strategy, our first strategic goal is to successfully arrange coordination with Ked Peddah and ensure we are all pulling in the same direction. Given that the Licori are using exotic weapons of unknown destructive power, Starfleet would like to avoid a single decisive battle that might allow them to bring such a "superweapon" to bear and wipe out our fleet in a single blow. Instead we would prefer to gradually attrit their fleet and destroy their production network until they are forced to come to terms. By using our superior combined numbers, we can ensure that each of these smaller battles is fought on favorable terms for Federation forces. Regrettably this will likely result in a longer war, but Starfleet considers it the less risky strategy.

[X][OPS] Reorganise Starfleet Operations (10pp)
 
Well that's what we get with two bullheaded Admirals with no clear chain of command. It's not as bad as Patton and Montgomery but we do need to have a gobetween to help smooth things over.
 
[X][ADVICE] Madam President, Starfleet believes it is crucial we avoid drawing down in the Gabriel Expanse. The fighting there is not only over territory, but to attrit hostile forces and control borders. Therefore we need to find a way to fight the Arcadian Empire with what we have not committed to Gabriel. To this end, Starfleet requests that required sector garrison levels be eliminated until such time as either the Gabriel conflict or the Arcadian War is ended. It is our intent to generally keep at High Alert levels, and retain some presence in most sectors, but we need flexibility to draw as many reinforcements as required. Additionally, we will require support from member fleets. Starfleet requests that the United Earth, Rigellian, Betazed, and Vulcan forces be fully committed. The Caitian Grand Fleet, Amarkians, Indorians, and Apiata should remain in place to secure their respective borders/Gabriel territory and not tempt the Cardassians or their allies too much. We would request that the Andorian and Tellarite fleets be given permission to operate outside their sector borders for the duration, not to participate directly in the Arcadian war but to assist in required emergency responses in the Sol, Vulcan, and Rigel sectors given that nearly all ships will be pulled away from there. We may also need to draw at least some of the Explorer Corps off their Five Year Missions, though Starfleet retains a commitment to not abandoning Five Year Missions unless the circumstances are truly dire. On the matter of our planned strategy, our first strategic goal is to successfully arrange coordination with Ked Peddah and ensure we are all pulling in the same direction. Given that the Licori are using exotic weapons of unknown destructive power, Starfleet would like to avoid a single decisive battle that might allow them to bring such a "superweapon" to bear and wipe out our fleet in a single blow. Instead we would prefer to gradually attrit their fleet and destroy their production network until they are forced to come to terms. By using our superior combined numbers, we can ensure that each of these smaller battles is fought on favorable terms for Federation forces. Regrettably this will likely result in a longer war, but Starfleet considers it the less risky strategy.

[X][OPS] Reorganise Starfleet Operations (10pp)
 
[x] Briefvoice

// Local strategy would be up to the admiral - striking with several smaller groups, having a large reserve and engage the Licori fleet if they engage one of the smaller contingents to protect assets might result in a short war.
 
Briefvoice said:
[X][ADVICE] Madam President, Starfleet believes it is crucial we avoid drawing down in the Gabriel Expanse. The fighting there is not only over territory, but to attrit hostile forces and control borders. Therefore we need to find a way to fight the Arcadian Empire with what we have not committed to Gabriel. To this end, Starfleet requests that required sector garrison levels be eliminated until such time as either the Gabriel conflict or the Arcadian War is ended. It is our intent to generally keep at High Alert levels, and retain some presence in most sectors, but we need flexibility to draw as many reinforcements as required. Additionally, we will require support from member fleets. Starfleet requests that the United Earth, Rigellian, Betazed, and Vulcan forces be fully committed. The Caitian Grand Fleet, Amarkians, Indorians, and Apiata should remain in place to secure their respective borders/Gabriel territory and not tempt the Cardassians or their allies too much. We would request that the Andorian and Tellarite fleets be given permission to operate outside their sector borders for the duration, not to participate directly in the Arcadian war but to assist in required emergency responses in the Sol, Vulcan, and Rigel sectors given that nearly all ships will be pulled away from there. We may also need to draw at least some of the Explorer Corps off their Five Year Missions, though Starfleet retains a commitment to not abandoning Five Year Missions unless the circumstances are truly dire. On the matter of our planned strategy, our first strategic goal is to successfully arrange coordination with Ked Peddah and ensure we are all pulling in the same direction. Given that the Licori are using exotic weapons of unknown destructive power, Starfleet would like to avoid a single decisive battle that might allow them to bring such a "superweapon" to bear and wipe out our fleet in a single blow. Instead we would prefer to gradually attrit their fleet and destroy their production network until they are forced to come to terms. By using our superior combined numbers, we can ensure that each of these smaller battles is fought on favorable terms for Federation forces. Regrettably this will likely result in a longer war, but Starfleet considers it the less risky strategy.

[X][OPS] Reorganise Starfleet Operations (10pp)
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Briefvoice said:
[ADVICE] Madam President, Starfleet believes it is crucial we avoid drawing down in the Gabriel Expanse. The fighting there is not only over territory, but to attrit hostile forces and control borders. Therefore we need to find a way to fight the Arcadian Empire with what we have not committed to Gabriel. To this end, Starfleet requests that required sector garrison levels be eliminated until such time as either the Gabriel conflict or the Arcadian War is ended. It is our intent to generally keep at High Alert levels, and retain some presence in most sectors, but we need flexibility to draw as many reinforcements as required. Additionally, we will require support from member fleets. Starfleet requests that the United Earth, Rigellian, Betazed, and Vulcan forces be fully committed. The Caitian Grand Fleet, Amarkians, Indorians, and Apiata should remain in place to secure their respective borders/Gabriel territory and not tempt the Cardassians or their allies too much. We would request that the Andorian and Tellarite fleets be given permission to operate outside their sector borders for the duration, not to participate directly in the Arcadian war but to assist in required emergency responses in the Sol, Vulcan, and Rigel sectors given that nearly all ships will be pulled away from there. We may also need to draw at least some of the Explorer Corps off their Five Year Missions, though Starfleet retains a commitment to not abandoning Five Year Missions unless the circumstances are truly dire. On the matter of our planned strategy, our first strategic goal is to successfully arrange coordination with Ked Peddah and ensure we are all pulling in the same direction. Given that the Licori are using exotic weapons of unknown destructive power, Starfleet would like to avoid a single decisive battle that might allow them to bring such a "superweapon" to bear and wipe out our fleet in a single blow. Instead we would prefer to gradually attrit their fleet and destroy their production network until they are forced to come to terms. By using our superior combined numbers, we can ensure that each of these smaller battles is fought on favorable terms for Federation forces. Regrettably this will likely result in a longer war, but Starfleet considers it the less risky strategy.

[OPS] Reorganise Starfleet Operations (10pp)
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Chaos Blade said:
[[ADVICE] Madam President, Starfleet believes it is crucial we avoid drawing down in the Gabriel Expanse. The fighting there is not only over territory, but to attrit hostile forces and control borders. Therefore we need to find a way to fight the Arcadian Empire with what we have not committed to Gabriel. To this end, Starfleet requests that required sector garrison levels be eliminated until such time as either the Gabriel conflict or the Arcadian War is ended. It is our intent to generally keep at High Alert levels, and retain some presence in most sectors, but we need flexibility to draw as many reinforcements as required. Additionally, we will require support from member fleets. Starfleet requests that the United Earth, Rigellian, Betazed, and Vulcan forces be fully committed. The Caitian Grand Fleet, Amarkians, Indorians, and Apiata should remain in place to secure their respective borders/Gabriel territory and not tempt the Cardassians or their allies too much. We would request that the Andorian and Tellarite fleets be given permission to operate outside their sector borders for the duration, not to participate directly in the Arcadian war but to assist in required emergency responses in the Sol, Vulcan, and Rigel sectors given that nearly all ships will be pulled away from there. We may also need to draw at least some of the Explorer Corps off their Five Year Missions, though Starfleet retains a commitment to not abandoning Five Year Missions unless the circumstances are truly dire. On the matter of our planned strategy, our first strategic goal is to successfully arrange coordination with Ked Peddah and ensure we are all pulling in the same direction. Given that the Licori are using exotic weapons of unknown destructive power, Starfleet would like to avoid a single decisive battle that might allow them to bring such a "superweapon" to bear and wipe out our fleet in a single blow. Instead we would prefer to gradually attrit their fleet and destroy their production network until they are forced to come to terms. By using our superior combined numbers, we can ensure that each of these smaller battles is fought on favorable terms for Federation forces. Regrettably this will likely result in a longer war, but Starfleet considers it the less risky strategy.

[OPS] Reorganise Starfleet Operations (10pp)
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How can you even read that?
 
Let's make one thing clear. The Gaeni and the Licori are not military peers. The Gaeni have been peacefully exploring the galaxy and accidentally blowing up their own ships, while the Licori have been on war footing for years now. On their own, the Gaeni are incapable of winning. With the Ked Paddah maybe, but I doubt the Ked Paddah are going to be happy to work with Gaen, given they view them as only slightly less dangerous than the Licori.
 
chriswriter90 said:
How can you even read that?
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One word at the time? (big ass monitor at 1360 x 768 certainly helps)

But let me break it down into nicer chunks:
[[ADVICE] Madam President, Starfleet believes it is crucial we avoid drawing down in the Gabriel Expanse. The fighting there is not only over territory, but to attrit hostile forces and control borders.
Therefore we need to find a way to fight the Arcadian Empire with what we have not committed to Gabriel. To this end, Starfleet requests that required sector garrison levels be eliminated until such time as either the Gabriel conflict or the Arcadian War is ended.
It is our intent to generally keep at High Alert levels, and retain some presence in most sectors, but we need flexibility to draw as many reinforcements as required.

Additionally, we will require support from member fleets. Starfleet requests that the United Earth, Rigellian, Betazed, and Vulcan forces be fully committed. The Caitian Grand Fleet, Amarkians, Indorians, and Apiata should remain in place to secure their respective borders/Gabriel territory and not tempt the Cardassians or their allies too much. We would request that the Andorian and Tellarite fleets be given permission to operate outside their sector borders for the duration, not to participate directly in the Arcadian war but to assist in required emergency responses in the Sol, Vulcan, and Rigel sectors given that nearly all ships will be pulled away from there.
We may also need to draw at least some of the Explorer Corps off their Five Year Missions, though Starfleet retains a commitment to not abandoning Five Year Missions unless the circumstances are truly dire.

On the matter of our planned strategy, our first strategic goal is to successfully arrange coordination with Ked Peddah and ensure we are all pulling in the same direction. Given that the Licori are using exotic weapons of unknown destructive power, Starfleet would like to avoid a single decisive battle that might allow them to bring such a "superweapon" to bear and wipe out our fleet in a single blow. Instead we would prefer to gradually attrit their fleet and destroy their production network until they are forced to come to terms. By using our superior combined numbers, we can ensure that each of these smaller battles is fought on favorable terms for Federation forces. Regrettably this will likely result in a longer war, but Starfleet considers it the less risky strategy.
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[ ][ADVICE] Advise the President
-[] The strategic objective is to end dangerous mentat use. Mentats are controlled by the individual houses, so we must move quickly the houses themselves and while avoiding or neutralizing Imperial forces. Tactically, the more forces we can muster, the faster we can prevent the deployment of desperate superweapons or mutually-destructive tactics, which will not only affect battles but can also threaten Federation civilians.
-[] Therefore, Starfleet can provide as many as three Excelsiors, five cruisers, five frigates, and three science ships, if we are allowed to draw garrisons to high alert levels. This would form the nucleus of two or more fleets after adding ships from UE, Betazed, Vulcan, and Rigel. The Rigellans in particular have ships that are well-suited to detecting and surviving incidents. Contributions from Andor and Tellar would also be welcome. Members who are...less enthusiastic could send pickets or science ships. Farther spinward, our members have other borders to worry about.
-[] A Licori Border Zone would help detect and contain dangerous mentat incidents before they can affect our homeworlds near the border.
-[] We would also ask to be allowed to operate two or more Explorer Corps ships within the Licori frontier and keep them there until the situation is resolved. The EC have the greatest experience dealing with these dangerous super-science incidents.

Something like that?
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Love You! Just need to make a few amendments.

[] Chriswriter Plan
[][OPS] Reorganise Starfleet Operations (10pp)

[][ADVICE] Advise the President

-[] First, we cannot do this alone. The Federation Diplomatic Service may be our most crucial asset in this crisis. What we need most of all is to get Starfleet, the Member Fleets, the Gaeni, Ked Paddah, and if possible the Romulans all on the same page and working together. We cannot allow a lack of coordination to undermine our efforts.
--[] As for the Romulans specifically; we shouldn't count on them joining but they do deserve an explanation of the crisis occurring on their borders.

-[] The strategic objective is to end dangerous mentat use. Mentats are controlled by the individual houses, so we must move quickly against the houses themselves and while avoiding or neutralizing Imperial forces. Tactically, the more forces we can muster, the faster we can prevent the deployment of desperate superweapons or mutually-destructive tactics, which will not only affect battles but can also threaten Federation/Romulan/Gaeni/Ked Paddah civilians.

-[] Therefore, Starfleet can provide as many as three Excelsiors, five cruisers, five frigates, and three science ships, if we are allowed to draw garrisons to high alert levels. This would form the nucleus of two or more fleets after adding ships from UE, Betazed, Vulcan, and Rigel. The Rigellans in particular have ships that are well-suited to detecting and surviving incidents. Contributions from Andor and Tellar would also be welcome. Members who are...less enthusiastic could send pickets or science ships. Farther spinward, our members have other borders to worry about.

-[] A Licori Border Zone would help detect and contain dangerous mentat incidents before they can affect our homeworlds near the border.

-[] We would also ask to be allowed to operate two or more Explorer Corps ships within the Licori frontier and keep them there until the situation is resolved. The EC have the greatest experience dealing with these dangerous super-science incidents.


OneirosTheWriter said:
Rapid shield roll is brutal with outnumbered frigates, lol.
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UberJJK said:
Damn! No wonder Revak thought this was illogical. Even with the +4L due to being outnumbered the cardies still had basically double the Hull and fifty percent more Combat.
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So Way of the Elephant is triggered either by being outnumbered in ships or by being outnumbered in Hull points. Neat.

Nix said:
@OneirosTheWriter it makes some sense that the Apiata didn't benefit from our tactical analyisis bonuses (using a very different doctrine means that they can't fight the Cardassians quite the same way Starfleet would), but why did they get neither comms bonus nor the bonus to shield regen?
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That is somewhat concerning, especially since they rely on their shields so much.
 
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Nervos Belli said:
Let's make one thing clear. The Gaeni and the Licori are not military peers. The Gaeni have been peacefully exploring the galaxy and accidentally blowing up their own ships, while the Licori have been on war footing for years now. On their own, the Gaeni are incapable of winning. With the Ked Paddah maybe, but I doubt the Ked Paddah are going to be happy to work with Gaen, given they view them as only slightly less dangerous than the Licori.
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Certainly, by themselves it would be a problem, Gaeni and the Ked Paddah have little in common, but a common enemy and as a certain Merc captain would say: my enemy's enemy is my enemy's enemy, no more and no less.

Luckily, there is another power that is getting involved that has a descent diplomatic corps and should be able to bring both Gaeni and Ked Paddah to a nice Yalta or Teheran like to coordinate our efforts and, hopefully, do a better job in the aftermath.
This is an important point, the post war, what the Ked Paddah will demand to be done, what we can accept and what we cannot...
 
[] Chriswriter Plan
[][OPS] Reorganise Starfleet Operations (10pp)

[]ADVICE] Advise the President

-[] First, we cannot do this alone. The Federation Diplomatic Service may be our most crucial asset in this crisis. What we need most of all is to get Starfleet, the Member Fleets, the Gaeni, Ked Paddah, and if possible the Romulans all on the same page and working together. We cannot allow a lack of coordination to undermine our efforts.
--[] As for the Romulans specifically; we shouldn't count on them joining but they do deserve an explanation of the crisis occurring on their borders.

-[] The strategic objective is to end dangerous mentat use. Mentats are controlled by the individual houses, so we must move quickly against the houses themselves and while avoiding or neutralizing Imperial forces. Tactically, the more forces we can muster, the faster we can prevent the deployment of desperate superweapons or mutually-destructive tactics, which will not only affect battles but can also threaten Federation/Romulan/Gaeni/Ked Paddah civilians.

-[] Therefore, Starfleet can provide as many as three Excelsiors, five cruisers, five frigates, and three science ships, if we are allowed to draw garrisons to high alert levels. This would form the nucleus of two or more fleets after adding ships from UE, Betazed, Vulcan, and Rigel. The Rigellans in particular have ships that are well-suited to detecting and surviving incidents. Contributions from Andor and Tellar would also be welcome. Members who are...less enthusiastic could send pickets or science ships. Farther spinward, our members have other borders to worry about.

-[] A Licori Border Zone would help detect and contain dangerous mentat incidents before they can affect our homeworlds near the border.

-[] We would also ask to be allowed to operate two or more Explorer Corps ships within the Licori frontier and keep them there until the situation is resolved. The EC have the greatest experience dealing with these dangerous super-science incidents.
 
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tryrar said:
Hrm, there are good arguments for a SOE, since that lets us call on as many ships as we need. Question is, is a SOE overkill for this particular situation?
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I don't consider it to be, not when dealing with potential stellar catastrophe.

trooperist said:
Wish we were a bit friendlier with the Ked Paddah so they we could coordinate more effectively against the Licori.
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I am pretty irked by our systematic failure to reach out to them over the past several snakepits, yes.
 
This better?


-[] First, we cannot do this alone. The Federation Diplomatic Service may be our most crucial asset in this crisis. What we need most of all is to get Starfleet, the Member Fleets, the Gaeni, Ked Paddah, and if possible the Romulans all on the same page and working together. We cannot allow a lack of coordination to undermine our efforts.
--[] As for the Romulans specifically; we shouldn't count on them joining but they do deserve an explanation of the crisis occurring on their borders.
 
Thoughts so far.
Let's all just take a deep breath and try and stay calm. Panic breeds delays and poor choices.

With that out of the way-
I am concerned that @Briefvoice is stripping the science on the borders down too far to prevent us from playing the role of Belgium when the Klingons or Romulans start feeling more aggressive.
I do like the list of member fleets.
cast2007 said:
Klingons and Romulans: Now that the Feddies are occupied, let's dance!
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That's what I'm worried about!
 
aeqnai said:
...now that, instead of being occupied on the opposite side of their space, the UFP is occupied within easy travel distance of our planets and frontlines, now is the time to dance?
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In addition to being occupied at the far end of their space, the Feddies are also embroiled in a local war, now is the time to at least take a round around the floor.
 
Glassware said:
I don't consider it to be, not when dealing with potential stellar catastrophe.



I am pretty irked by our systematic failure to reach out to them over the past several snakepits, yes.
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Think it is better this way, if we had been closer to the Ked Paddah, we might have been drawn into this sooner and would have been a bitch to do this war AND Gabriel at the same time... sure, Gabriel is still a hot potato, but if we can keep Syndraxians out of it, we only need to check and outdo Carddies.
 
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