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Hmmm...

Do we need a pew-pew tin can with charmingly janky TOS aesthetics? (The final model has to look like it was made out of carboard tubes and other household stuff and then spray-painted silver.)

Or do we want to create a SMOL BUT FIERCE bioscience/scout ship?

Truly a toughie honestly, I kinda want to do both. Legitimately hope maybe we get to do one after the other?
 
I would prefer a Bioscience ship, we can put some oomph on it for the war, and give us some good post war capability in science stuff.

that and honestly while I like the occasional Nacelle and Warp COre design stuff, and the Pharos was fun, I like the ship design stuff.
 
The tactical capabilities for a bioscience ship will heavily depend on what our tonnage limits and budget looks like.

If we're allowed something in the same mass range as a Newton or Archer we could reuse the Excalibur saucer, drop the Engineering section, and strap on a naccelle or two with an inline deflector since we aren't going for 'All the Torpedoes' here.

If we remove the rear weapons and limit it to one forward torpedo launcher (Rapid Fire one of course) we could potentially make enough room for an extra facility with part of the rear saucer section turned into a small shuttle/cargo bay setup since a Bioscience ship is probably going to want to collect samples without going through the transporters all the time.
 
Based on when we did the Pharos stations, I predict the station would end up like this:
Class - outpost/small
Power - A/M
Bottom ring - Phasers
Middle - Small basic repair dock & Rapid torpedo launchers
Top ring - More Phasers
Shields - Heavy Covariant

As this is a pure defence form, we don't need to worry about civvies and just have a basic repair ability to assist our front line fleets with. Load up on weapons and we've got a nasty suprise for any raiders.
 
TheShadowDeamon said:
Based on when we did the Pharos stations, I predict the station would end up like this:
Class - outpost/small
Power - A/M
Bottom ring - Phasers
Middle - Small basic repair dock & Rapid torpedo launchers
Top ring - More Phasers
Shields - Heavy Covariant

As this is a pure defence form, we don't need to worry about civvies and just have a basic repair ability to assist our front line fleets with. Load up on weapons and we've got a nasty suprise for any raiders.
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I think you're rather overestimating the size budget we'd have for this. It's meant to be mass deployable around minor outposts, it's not going to have any room for repair docks and it probably won't be powered by anti-matter. I imagine it'll be Cardassian ODP sized at best.

Sayle said:
As the Excalibur finishes its shakedown trials you confirm there are no pressing issues that need your attention and then turn to the next project. Starfleet has two potential gaps it is interested in filling. The first is a defense satellite that can be deployed around spaceborne installations like the Pharos or minor outposts, dissuading military action against the former and piracy against the latter. You would be constrained by certain budgetary limitations but otherwise free to tailor the platform as you see fit.

The second is a science vessel that can take thorough surveys of habitable worlds. While the Kea has plenty of facilities for general cartography and geological sciences, the biological side of that has been somewhat neglected. Several colonies have had to deal with novel pathogens or had to implement crude solutions to the activities of local flora and fauna that could have been prepared for more efficiently given forewarning. Cataloguing an entire biosphere is no small task, and a ship dedicated to that could go a long way towards making safe colonies before the first boot touches soil. Such a vessel would ideally be small and well-specialised.

[ ] Defense Satellite
[ ] Biosciences Ship

Two Hour Moratorium, Please
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Both of these are rather interesting choices, especially in light of what we know of the war ahead of us. A decent defence satellite will enable Starfleet and the member navies to bring more ships to bear against the Klingons and future foes, not needing to guard places that would otherwise see sizeable detachments so heavily.

A biosciences ship would directly aid in the growth and development of the Federation, as well as ensuring a safe start for colonies and the quick quashing of diseases when they outbreak amongst these colonies there's a lot of potential for the discovery of novel pharmaceuticals and other biosciences related boons - hardier more tolerant crops, new consumer goods and so much more.

Assuming we do go for a biosciences ship would a hull form like the Olympic-class (or more precisely, the Horizon-class) be possible? I'm rather enamoured by the idea of a sphere that can do biosciences work but have its outer layer/highest security labs jettisoned in the event of an emergency.
 
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The satellite option might not even end up being manned.

On the same hand, I dont see it being all that interesting to design personally. 2 phaser cannons, RCS to bring them to bear, a fusion reactor for power.... the most interesting design decision seems like it would be whether or not to give it shields.

Maybe they get built in such a way they can get hauled around by Archers.
 
Ooooh tough... on the one hand, INFRASTRUCTURE! But on the other hand, SCIENCE! How can I choose???

I'm going to default to being Starfleet, and design a new ship. A warp 8 science ship!
 
Candesce said:
We're being asked to develop a satellite, not a station, yeah.
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I am going to vote science ship, but for a satellite imagine a box with a surplus type 2 thrusters and photon torpedo tube. It stores just enough antimatter in a tank to charge a few torpedoes.

It's so extremely light it has very high maneuverability. It's not expected to survive combat. It is expected to break it's parking orbit and put a photon torpedo in someone's face before being blown out of the sky.

I think we can keep the cost around like 10.

You could also call it a shuttle drone rather than a satellite.

But we build them and then stuff them into the shuttlebays of combat ships to give them the ability to drop attack drones.

The Newton looks downright scary if it can trade 12 shuttles for 12 photon torpedo attack "satellites" it can deploy straight from it's shuttlebays.
 
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LOLROFL said:
The tactical capabilities for a bioscience ship will heavily depend on what our tonnage limits and budget looks like.

If we're allowed something in the same mass range as a Newton or Archer we could reuse the Excalibur saucer, drop the Engineering section, and strap on a naccelle or two with an inline deflector since we aren't going for 'All the Torpedoes' here.

If we remove the rear weapons and limit it to one forward torpedo launcher (Rapid Fire one of course) we could potentially make enough room for an extra facility with part of the rear saucer section turned into a small shuttle/cargo bay setup since a Bioscience ship is probably going to want to collect samples without going through the transporters all the time.
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Please be aware that you have just described TTL's Miranda.
 
Sayle said:
Starfleet has two potential gaps it is interested in filling.
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Will someone work on the design we do not pick or is this a case where one of the potential gaps will go unfilled?

Hmm looking at things, tech page is not updated yet but there is a temptation to make a science ship, but also the chance to do more weapons stuff is very tempting. Covariant shields are now at standard cost and the rapid torpedoes might be standard as well from Exaclibur implementation boost (would have been 2240 without)
 
Zimmerwald1915 said:
Please be aware that you have just described TTL's Miranda.
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That is intentional.

I'd argue that it would a bit undergunned relative to the actual Miranda as the Reliant was fighting evenly with the Enterprise whereas this design would get beaten soundly by our version of the Enterprise.

Also it would be making an appearance a lot earlier than the Miranda which was a 2260s design.
 
As well as ensuring a safe start for colonies and the quick quashing of diseases when they outbreak amongst these colonies there's a lot of potential for the discovery of novel pharmaceuticals and other biosciences related boons - hardier more tolerant crops, new consumer goods and so much more.

This will synergise with our already larger economy quite well, and continue to help promote greater and earlier growth than in the prime timeline.
 
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