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I'm not going to weigh in on the logic of either side's arguments, but I will ask that everyone read over what they write and really consider if the words they used are polite and won't be inflammatory intentionally or not. You cant account for people's tolerances perfectly but at least try to say your piece without saying things that can be easily construed as overly dismissive of the other side of the argument, thank you.

Please endeavour to be cordial. :^)
 
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[X] The Statue. You're fairly sure that being around the big Rune statue with your equipment will only improve its capabilities.
[X] Brynna has been meaning to ask about the eye.
[X] A messenger from Kraka Krum, bearing a letter with the seal of Ogra Wardmaker.
[X] A band of Runesmiths muttering to each other at levels they think are quiet.
[X] [Line:] Being forced. Do you have it in you to open your heart again? Maybe. It may never come to pass and you may never actually meet anyone who you would even consider being romantic with, but you wouldn't dismiss the idea if it ever did happen.
[X] [Support:] Fully Support the proposal
 
[X] [Line:] Being forced. Do you have it in you to open your heart again? Maybe. It may never come to pass and you may never actually meet anyone who you would even consider being romantic with, but you wouldn't dismiss the idea if it ever did happen.
[X] [Support:] Fully Support the proposal.
 
[X] The Statue. You're fairly sure that being around the big Rune statue with your equipment will only improve its capabilities.
[X] Brynna has been meaning to ask about the eye.
[X] A messenger from Kraka Krum, bearing a letter with the seal of Ogra Wardmaker.
[X] A band of Runesmiths muttering to each other at levels they think are quiet.
[X] [Line:] Being forced. Do you have it in you to open your heart again? Maybe. It may never come to pass and you may never actually meet anyone who you would even consider being romantic with, but you wouldn't dismiss the idea if it ever did happen.
[X] [Support:] Fully Support the proposal
 
[x] [Line:] Being forced. Do you have it in you to open your heart again? Maybe. It may never come to pass and you may never actually meet anyone who you would even consider being romantic with, but you wouldn't dismiss the idea if it ever did happen.
[x] [Support:] Fully Support the proposal.
[x] The Statue. You're fairly sure that being around the big Rune statue with your equipment will only improve its capabilities.
[x] A messenger from Kraka Krum, bearing a letter with the seal of Ogra Wardmaker.
[x] A band of Runesmiths muttering to each other at levels they think are quiet.
[x] Let them come to you. Random Encounter.
 
[X] [Line:] Being forced. Do you have it in you to open your heart again? Maybe. It may never come to pass and you may never actually meet anyone who you would even consider being romantic with, but you wouldn't dismiss the idea if it ever did happen.

Snorri has been steadily learning how to have healthier a relationship with his grief over the last little while, from making peace with putting away the gifts his wife gave him to actually acknowledging (slyly and partly) the relationship between him and Karstah. Time to open himself up at least to the possibility of having another partner.

[X] The Statue. You're fairly sure that being around the big Rune statue with your equipment will only improve its capabilities.
[X] A messenger from Kraka Krum, bearing a letter with the seal of Ogra Wardmaker.
[X] Brynna has been meaning to ask about the eye.
 
[X] [Line:] Being forced. Do you have it in you to open your heart again? Maybe. It may never come to pass and you may never actually meet anyone who you would even consider being romantic with, but you wouldn't dismiss the idea if it ever did happen.
 
[X] [Line:] In general. There has only been one, and with Valaya as your witness, there will only ever be one. From the moment you wed you belonged to each other, and not even death would have you break that oath.

Doesn't make sense, character- or narrative-wise to look for another partner. There's no need for it, at least from what I see of Snorri's current life.
 
[X] [Line:] Being forced. Do you have it in you to open your heart again? Maybe. It may never come to pass and you may never actually meet anyone who you would even consider being romantic with, but you wouldn't dismiss the idea if it ever did happen.
[X] [Support:] Fully Support the proposal.
 
[X] [Line:] Being forced. Do you have it in you to open your heart again? Maybe. It may never come to pass and you may never actually meet anyone who you would even consider being romantic with, but you wouldn't dismiss the idea if it ever did happen.
[X] [Support:] Fully Support the proposal.
[X] The Statue. You're fairly sure that being around the big Rune statue with your equipment will only improve its capabilities.
[X] A messenger from Kraka Krum, bearing a letter with the seal of Ogra Wardmaker.
[X] A band of Runesmiths muttering to each other at levels they think are quiet.
[X] Brynna has been meaning to ask about the eye.
 
I truly don't understand why people are voting the way they are. Snorri's devotion to the love he lost is an integral part of the character. Why exactly vote against that?
 
[X] [Line:] In general. There has only been one, and with Valaya as your witness, there will only ever be one. From the moment you wed you belonged to each other, and not even death would have you break that oath.
 
I truly don't understand why people are voting the way they are. Snorri's devotion to the love he lost is an integral part of the character. Why exactly vote against that?
Loving again does nothing to diminish love lost.

More over this is not Snorri going out looking for it, the option itself explicitly says that he may never meet anyone, it merely says he's open to the possibility if it comes up. Which is healthy. I'd like to see what might come up.
 
I truly don't understand why people are voting the way they are. Snorri's devotion to the love he lost is an integral part of the character. Why exactly vote against that?
Because he is also someone who has gone through a depression spiral about that, and has managed to get himself moving onward, ever onward. If that path lead to a new love life, then so be it.

Closing himself off and giving up on even the (miniscule) chance for a new love is certainly a viable choice, but so is leaving that miniscule gap open with the understanding that Snorri is still open to the idea without being completely shackled by said small chance happening. He has after all gone single for most of his life by now, so he could still continue on with the single life until he goes to the Glittering Realm even with him being open to said possibility.
 
[X] [Line:] In general. There has only been one, and with Valaya as your witness, there will only ever be one. From the moment you wed you belonged to each other, and not even death would have you break that oath.
[X] [Support:] Partially Support the proposal.
[X] The Statue. You're fairly sure that being around the big Rune statue with your equipment will only improve its capabilities.
 
Because we're healing. Over the centuries, yes, but still healing from our wife's loss.
Loving again does nothing to diminish love lost.

More over this is not Snorri going out looking for it, the option itself explicitly says that he may never meet anyone, it merely says he's open to the possibility if it comes up. Which is healthy. I'd like to see what might come up.
Also, having a broken heart that won't heal really sucks ass.

And not allowing yourself to heal is also bad.
So your positions are that singular lasting devotion to a lifelong partner and just not wanting anyone else even if they pass is invalid, unhealthy and 'broken'? Good to know.
 
[X] The Vanguard. Where you're arguably your most effective. Also where Vragni has been putting himself for several decades now. Is it worth the potential headache?

[X] A messenger from Kraka Krum, bearing a letter with the seal of Ogra Wardmaker.

[X] A band of Runesmiths muttering to each other at levels they think are quiet.

[X] Brynna has been meaning to ask about the eye.

[X] [Line:] Being forced. Do you have it in you to open your heart again? Maybe. It may never come to pass and you may never actually meet anyone who you would even consider being romantic with, but you wouldn't dismiss the idea if it ever did happen.

[X] [Support:] Fully Support the proposal.
Freyda will almost assuredly get the Northern Kings to agree to her proposal and with good odds of them agreeing to ideas she considered outside her reach before. You'd be throwing your weight around in this manner, and it will show. With Silverbrand in Ornsmotek there's sure to be pushback there because of it. Gain +2 Standing with the Cult of Valaya. Unlocks Options. Cost: [70 Favours from Kraka Ornsmotek, 50 Favours from Kraka Dorden, and Ravnsvake, 30 Favours with Kraka Drakk]
 
[X] [Line:] Being forced. Do you have it in you to open your heart again? Maybe. It may never come to pass and you may never actually meet anyone who you would even consider being romantic with, but you wouldn't dismiss the idea if it ever did happen.
[X] [Support:] Fully Support the proposal.
[X] The Statue. You're fairly sure that being around the big Rune statue with your equipment will only improve its capabilities.
[X] Brynna has been meaning to ask about the eye.
[X] A messenger from Kraka Krum, bearing a letter with the seal of Ogra Wardmaker.
[X] A band of Runesmiths muttering to each other at levels they think are quiet.
 
[X] [Line:] In general. There has only been one, and with Valaya as your witness, there will only ever be one. From the moment you wed you belonged to each other, and not even death would have you break that oath.

[X] [Support:] Fully Support the proposal.

[X] The Statue. You're fairly sure that being around the big Rune statue with your equipment will only improve its capabilities.

[X] A messenger from Kraka Krum, bearing a letter with the seal of Ogra Wardmaker.
[X] Brynna has been meaning to ask about the eye.
[X] Let them come to you. Random Encounter.
 
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There is a thin line between attachment and obsession.
There's a thin line between a lot of things. Love and hatred. Power and weakness. But what I've seen from Snorri is not obsession - at least, not 'obsession' relative to Dawi. Snorri is functional. He works towards his goals and better things and the good of all without any difficulty and it's only when he is confronted with the last few mementos the centuries have preserved that he shows the grief of losing someone who was everything to him. Snorri as presented processes his grief and pain well. Further he has shown no need or desire for romantic interaction in and of itself, merely missing her. This is not a failing or a sign of fucking mental instability as you imply.
 
So your positions are that singular lasting devotion to a lifelong partner and just not wanting anyone else even if they pass is invalid, unhealthy and 'broken'? Good to know.
I mean if it comes to the point of refusal to consider the possibility? Yes.

People connect, it's what we do, closing yourself off from that potential is bad and unhealthy.

Edit: I think this conversation is likely to go pretty far off topic pretty quickly, so I'm just going to drop it.
 
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I'm more concerned about people fully supporting the proposal.
You'd be throwing your weight around in this manner, and it will show. With Silverbrand in Ornsmotek there's sure to be pushback there because of it.
With what we're working on already being near political suicide and us not even having enough favour for the Ravnsvake it really doesn't make sense. Like, I get it, haha Snorri go brrrrrrrr, but it's not a case of going all out being overly giving here, but outright not the best call.
 
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