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The Chaos Wastes haven't formed yet, i assume. So, no reason for there to be an excess of daemons in the North than there would be closer to civilization.
But the Chaos Gates are up there, and still broken. It's just that the Lizardmen have held Chaos back for over a thousand years. The First Incursion started long ago, hence why daemons are even a THING at all on Mallus.
 
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Ooh, boy. It's not here yet, but it's definitely coming.

Hmm. We can finish Defense in Depth pt 3 and Girded in Metal this turn, which also gives us the bonus of clearing out the backlog for either Research or Exploring. Think we might want to Overflow on Girded in Metal, we can get a +200% there, and having the Hold's best fighters kitted out to the max can only be a good thing.

And definitely do Petition the Hold. We've got loads of Favors to burn.
 
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Ooh, boy. It's not here yet, but it's definitely coming.

Hmm. We can finish Defense in Depth pt 3 and Girded in Metal this turn, which also gives us the bonus of clearing out the backlog in time for research. Think we might want to Overflow on Girded in Metal, we can get a +200% there, and having the Hold's best fighters kitted out to the max can only be a good thing.

agreed
 
[] Plan PREPARE!
-[ ] Odd Places 1/10: Look on Master Yorri's map and try and discover one of his marked locations. The locations will certainly be odd, but whether they'll be useful will remain to be seen. [Cost: 1 action] Roll for usefulness.
--[] 1 action

-[X] Teach your apprentices. [Cost: 1 Action] Locked in for 4 turns.
-[X] Teach your apprentice. [Cost: 2 Apprentice Actions] Locked in for 6 turns.

Requests: Denote which simple request will receive the Apprentice Action in your plan.

-[ ] [Simple] Defence. In. Depth Pt3: The Murder Maze. Dwarfholds by virtue of their construction are already naturally difficult to take. Mountain over top, tight confines for most non-dwarf beings, natural inclination to build things with defence in mind and the incredible indignation of dwarfs whose homes are being threatened make a tough time for any attacker to get through. You dont think it's enough. What you plan is more than just your standard dwarfhold defence. Alchemical Fire, artificial cave-ins, the tried and true tactic of funnelling enemies into kill zones, is only the TIP of this final phase. [Cost: (4-1) =3 actions] Productivity Like No Other Will proc.
--[ ] Petition the Hold, Gromril: Petition King Otrek and the Council of Elders to consider the merits of turning the main gate into a giant slab of Runed Gromril and Stone. The cost is massive, but the defence and the prestige are...incredible. [Cost: 15 Favour with the Hold and 10 Favour with King Otrek]
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-[ ] [Simple] Girded in Metal: King Otrek has come to you with a request to engrave Runes on the Gromril armour of his royal guard, or Huskarls as members of the hold also call them. These doughty elders formed from his honour guard and the best warriors of the other clans seconded to his personal defence. The position is one of great honour for these dwarfs and their clans and rewards great. It is only part of the greater armament program King Otrek is undertaking, as he has commissioned many runesmiths for a variety of tasks, but the lives of these dwarfs and by extension his own, he only dares entrust to you. There is no rush, these are dwarfs still armed in Gromril armour and weapons after all. [Cost: 1 action] Productivity Like No Other Will proc.
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we NEED to see if we have to retrieve master yorri's caches in case there is anything valuable in them before the demons arrive, time to finish the defenses asap and protect the king
 
- [ ] Petition the Hold, Gromril: Petition King Otrek and the Council of Elders to consider the merits of turning the main gate into a giant slab of Runed Gromril and Stone. The cost is massive, but the defence and the prestige are...incredible. [Cost: 15 Favour with the Hold and 10 Favour with King Otrek]
If we do this, will we be able to decide on the Runes for the Gate? A combination of Master Rune of Spite, and some combination of the Runes of Spellbreaking, Warding, and Spelleating could be pretty useful.
 
Mmm, perhaps we should get what we can from the Heart first, since the chances of us finishing the full Rune Metal tree before there is substantially more demand for our services is...unlikely. Maybe not this turn, but next turn?

@soulcake unrelated to what I just said, but can runes be removed and replaced by superior/different runes?
 
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We really should advance the Rune Metal research now. We're never going to get a better chance.

Every turn we put it off we'll have more and more other priorities.
 
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"Caught sight of some more griffons. Dead when I found em, it looks like the six of em wounded each other in a brawl before getting killed by a Greedy Troll and its band that I ran down right before they got to eat. Doing the same thing as last time, but you'd probably do more with these than other Runesmiths could I reckon," he explains.
Huh, 8 Griffin Brains now? Are you rolling for this? Weve got 10 now. Is there like a reagent trading business between runesmiths?
"I'll get right onto it, there have been sightings of daemons from the other northern holds," he king begins, mouth set into a hard line.
So it begins...Ominous Grumbling Intensifies.
 
"An eighteen-year-old?" Moira snorts in disbelief, "are you daft?"

Around you, the other elders present are having discussions of their own. Mostly trade-talk, business ventures, or grumbling about things elders do, which is basically everything but especially the youth. But Moira's statement does make a few look at you with raised brows for a second before returning to their earlier conversation.

"I swear it on my beard, she's good for someone her age. Expressing it so early? Can't leave that kind of talent untapped. Or worse, leave her instruction to some idiot with barely three centuries under their belt to cultivate. Would've been a waste!" you grumble back, taking a sip from the complimentary ale.

"Mhmm, that's why," Moira says, eyes alight with humour.

"It is, I swear on my beard," you reply gruffly, putting the mug down.

"A miracle a boy this blind could make an axe like that," Master Gormak mutters quietly.

Snorri doesn't see it ...
 
Mmm, perhaps we should get what we can from the Heart first, since the chances of us finishing the full Rune Metal tree before there is substantially more demand for our services is...unlikely. Maybe not this turn, but next turn?

@soulcake unrelated to what I just said, but can runes be removed and replaced by superior/different runes?
Add an order for a Invisible Diamond so we can make the Greater Warmachine next turn? Otherwise you've got my vote.
 
"So...another apprentice. Younger than us when we started out to boot," Fjolla says as she smoothly slides on a boot.

"Good one too, what was she? Eighteen? That's barely an adult," Dolgi asks while doing the same.

"Yeah, technically my grandaunt too which is already odd to think about. But The Gift at eighteen, can you imagine it?" Fjolla confirms, zipping up the under-padding.
Dawi family dynamics are hilarious. Here, i was thinking that Jon and Dany were absurd, but at least there's nothing freaky going on here.
"Hmmm, fine by me. Only seven years younger than you, and I'm used to being shown up. Doesn't seem the type to brag either, not that Master Snorri would ever let it get to her head I imagine. More worried I'll bungle the lessons we're supposed to teach her. How're you holding up with this Ms. Prodigy?" Dolgi grunts as he puts the weighted leather over his shoulders.

"...better than I thought If I'll be honest. Girl's nicer than most and doesn't seem right to hold it against her. I mean if you don't mind, how can't I not?" she says grinning at him.

"Be a bit daft to be jealous of a beardling too, wouldn't it?" Dolgi says chuckling.

"Aye."

"And it doesn't feel honourable begrudging a dwarf over something like that. I didn't with you and I don't think I'll start now, all it means is I have to work harder to keep up," he says with finality.
Pretty nice of our apprentices.

Evacuation plans, preparing to take in potential refugees from other holds, coordination and the like," he grumbles.
Yeah, there's gonna be a lot of that in the future. Other Holds sacrificed so that Kraka Drak can survive the storm.
 
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