Puella Magi Adfligo Systema
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Is grief actually physical enough to block the passage of air? I've been thinking it more like a form of energy, and cutting with it like using a laser to cut something rather than a knife.
It's physical enough to make barriers and familiars- we can make objects out of it. I'm favoring using it to smother the flames in semi-gaseous form (aka: grief fire extinguisher)
Aranfan
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Ah. And SV probably has enough firefighters to know.
Okay, vote retracted.
Most efficient on Grief is to use it to just form thin barriers that keep air from reaching the fire without touching the fire. Directly smothering the fire might burn the grief away, in which case we don't have a lot of it.
We've got about half a dozen marbles on hand- and gaseous grief is a lot less concentrated, plus the actual grief just seems to diffuse away if not controlled rather than burning.
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Agreed, but we were meant to conclude that Oriko did this. It's a show of force, a statement of willing and intent. I think we should answer in kind, and soon. Going for Oriko could lead us into a trap, Kirika's a dangerous target ... maybe track down the mercenary, send her back to Oriko in small pieces?
The hypothetical mercenary- and honestly, murdering a third party'd be pointless and alienate everyone, no matter how briefly satisfying it'd be at the moment.
Time to bring over the SQ Limb removal policy for unfriendly magical girls. I'd say we'd try and convert her (?) but after trying to burn Sayaka and company alive, the sensible option's a lot less appealing than telling her "If we see you again, we're breaking your gem open with its own grief, get out of town and take your hand with you"
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I don't think Mami would be all to happy with us butchering another magical girl.
Which is why we're getting rid of her the relatively humane way.
Or tying up the loose end offscreen.
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Horahora.
Sightedjt
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No, no. We do things the Mami way here.
When you have to kill someone, you do it quick and clean. 1 shot straight through the gem.
The order goes "veiled threats, "telling them to get out at gunpoint", and "tetris".
Sightedjt
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I think we can skip stages 1 and the threats at stage 2. Just go straight to gunpoint.
Also, we might be able to get mami and homura bonding times with this. So, who wants to hunt down some phycopathic MGs who are a threat to the citizens of this city, madoka included.
Also, we might be able to get mami and homura bonding times with this. So, who wants to hunt down some phycopathic MGs who are a threat to the citizens of this city, madoka included.
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We need to make it abundantly clear that attacking us by going after our friends is an extremely bad move somehow, and nobody'll object too much if we go after the hired muscle.
One reservation is over how Mami'll take it - particularly since I'd rather we don't lie to her. But if they use force first, we can't possibly be blamed for responding ...
Oriko obviously won't care what we do. Killing her hired gun, if the hired gun did exist and was behind this, would be satisfying but get nothing done that any other way of getting rid of her would and would be ultimately pointless.
Mami and Homura'd bond in the face of the threat Oriko and friend(s) pose, not so much over the actual hunting and killing therof because >Murderface.
Oriko is doing an excellent job of making the case for "she's got to go" and any further encounters are probably going to be "roll for initiative" within the first three lines of dialogue. We might actually have more luck trying to appeal to Kirika's interest in protecting Oriko by trying to make the case that Oriko's putting herself in danger. Not that it's likely to work, but...
We might not need to actually kill the hypothetical third party meguca. (If we do need to, let's try and do it "offscreen", and quick and quiet as said. No reason to drag Mami into the actual murder or have blue/pink get traumatized. If nothing else, we'd lose influence.)
Mami and Homura'd bond in the face of the threat Oriko and friend(s) pose, not so much over the actual hunting and killing therof because >Murderface.
Oriko is doing an excellent job of making the case for "she's got to go" and any further encounters are probably going to be "roll for initiative" within the first three lines of dialogue. We might actually have more luck trying to appeal to Kirika's interest in protecting Oriko by trying to make the case that Oriko's putting herself in danger. Not that it's likely to work, but...
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I think a more important consideration than attacking Oriko is the question of why she revealed herself. She does things for a reason. Regardless of her presence we might have guessed it was her, but why show herself and thus make it all but certain? What purpose does that serve for her?
I think that's a far more important question than how to best kill her.
I think that's a far more important question than how to best kill her.
It all comes back to one thing: Oriko's plan makes no sense with the information we have. What conceivable benefit is there from targeting the peripheral characters? She's clearly not afraid, she's practically advertising these attacks, but she's never gone for a direct attack even though Sabrina's practically held up a sign saying "please gank me".
They could have firebombed the Mamipartment instead- but Sayaka's? Without so much as an attempt at an ambush?
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There has to be someone other than Kirika that she gives enough of a shit about that violence against them will be at least a bit of a deterrent.
(I hope so, anyway, because there's no way in hell we can guard all the vulnerables we care about, 24/7, against three superhuman attackers).
Unfortunately, not really. Anything else is going to bounce right off her fanaticism or just make her more inclined to pull this kind of stunt. Our problem is that we have no idea what's driving said fanaticism or what her endgame is.
We probably want to try asking/finding out- or going after the hypothetical third member one way or another.
Muramasa
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Uh, once again Oriko being present at this fire doesn't prove that she's actually done it. Suspicious as hell, true but it isn't hard proof. Still, this is more then enough to get Mami serious on the Oriko investigation. Girl has some very hard questions to answer and she's not going to be able to worm her way out of it without a few muskets and extra sharp grief in the face.
She's guilty as hell.
But yes, our first question is going to be "did you set that fire", followed by "why", and said grief projectiles.
Sabrina+anyone=Unlimited Magic Works plus constant grief attacks. We are essentially a walking pile of Grief Seeds and that's without actually using our own powers.
If Oriko's trying to drive us to witch-out, that's uncharacteristically...well, suicidal. A witch of grief-control sounds like Fun for everyone to deal with.
If she's trying to assemble a team in opposition to her...that's still dumb, but more sane.