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These suppose two different "kinds" of magic, one effected by anti magic and a different kind not. This is a good old "why didn't they make the plane out of the black box" situation
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but the top emblem doesn't have any soul in them.
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Would you bet your life on it? Because you're betting someone's.
Would you further bet your life on the top emblem being entirely superfluous, with absolutely no soul maintenance or gem integrity function?
we could always remove ours, and besides, some megucas don't have a gem on the top emblem, which does seem to imply that unlike the big gem, the small one is decorative, hell, when a meguca turns into a which, the old emblem gets destroyed, and replaced with a new one.
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I think that's interesting. If that's the case, I'd like to get a better understanding of what exactly those differences are and how antimagic discriminates between them.
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Kirika's cracked gem in Oriko Magicka seems to have accelerated her witching out. Sabrina witching out is worse than other people witching out, which is itself completely unacceptable.
we're just talking about the gold exterior of the gem, not the gem itself:
This is a lot different, than to what Kirika went through.
Also, we should definitely analyse the durability of soul gems by Homura's soul gem in rebellion:
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Why do you believe the gold part isn't important? Why do you think damaging it won't have negative effects? What do you think the gold part even is?
because it hasn't show itself to be more than a fancy holder to the gem itself, heck, usually it explodes during transformations for dramatic effect(see picture above)
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Actually that does make me wonder if the cracked part affected the witch. Could it eventually heal if a girl was cleansed enough? If not, does that mess with the witch as well, and if not what does that imply about the process?
cracked soul gems either fully witchout, or start to crack until they fully shatter.
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... Did you cite Magireco when answering this?
only partially on the "fully shatter" part, most of my response comes from what we've been show in Oriko Magica.
Nope, you can just re-read the parts with cracked gem Kirika in the Oriko Magica manga, and then make your own hypotesis.
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That is speculation. Magireco is not canon, and we've seen wish rejection result in some weird 4d twisting for Oriko in the quest, so if anything goes then this could point to gems that don't fully shatter possibly being able to somewhat recover if they have sufficient support.
Edit: If nothing else it is possible it may just directly shatter if supported long enough, and also given I don't think anyone has gotten gemshotted in front of us that I recall I see no reason to not at least try healing one if we ever encountered it. Also seeing if gemming affects it is another question.
Edit: If nothing else it is possible it may just directly shatter if supported long enough, and also given I don't think anyone has gotten gemshotted in front of us that I recall I see no reason to not at least try healing one if we ever encountered it. Also seeing if gemming affects it is another question.
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lil bro, listen to me, we're talking about Oriko Magica, not Magia Record, and that didn't went well for Kirika, her soul gem keep breaking, and it was either going to fully shatter, or she was going to turn into a witch, the only time that fate was adverted was in MagiReco, and it required literal time magic for it to happen, so unless Homura can do micro-scale time travel, chipped/cracked soul gem=death/witchout.
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Relying purely on fictional media to guide our experimentation is like looking at pictures of plane crashes to try to fly. We can speculate about some aspects of what we see, but till we have the equivalent of aerospace engineers for souls and magic we really should avoid messing with people's souls. The goal is to have actual experts, not headcannons.
The question is how to get that information without unethical experiments. Stealing it from whatever the incubators use as data storage is my suggestion. That runs into the problems of finding where they keep it, how to get it out of there, and applying it/training people. Those are problems, but solvable ones.
The question is how to get that information without unethical experiments. Stealing it from whatever the incubators use as data storage is my suggestion. That runs into the problems of finding where they keep it, how to get it out of there, and applying it/training people. Those are problems, but solvable ones.
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I still want to make that griefhax scanner to get their physical properties through non-destructive means. Knowing their hardness, brittleness, thermal tollerance, etc. would make so many things easier. Trying to extrapolate from scenes like that only gives us the vaguest possible idea of what is and is not safe to subject a Soul Gem to.
well, we at least know that a meguca can "easily" chomp down a soul gem(yeah yeah is nutcracker symbolism on that scene, don't mind me)
i also got something for you:
now one interesting thing to note is that magic comes in pulses, between 4 to 10 seconds:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp0tBXtxDbc
it takes Kyoko 5 seconds for her magic to fully dissipate, same with Mami(exactly 121 frames)
and the same with witch labyrinths:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk5hWHJF_8k
Mami takes 4 seconds to die, while Charlotte's labyrinth takes the full 10 seconds.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARhHq-aw5DI
Gerturd's labyrinth only takes 4 seconds(the video doesn't fully show it disapating)
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZPSPFNupZw
Elsa Maria is the longest one, taking a full 24 seconds to dissipate(doesn't fully show it)
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB2akZ2LdzI
Candy takes 6 seconds
Felicia and Kyoko Kills the Witch [Magia Record] 1080p
Symbol's witch takes 4 seconds
Answer the questions.we could always remove ours, and besides, some megucas don't have a gem on the top emblem, which does seem to imply that unlike the big gem, the small one is decorative, hell, when a meguca turns into a which, the old emblem gets destroyed, and replaced with a new one.
uhh, i did answer the question tho?
You did not.
If you claim you did, do point to the statement or statements in which you stated whether you'd bet your life on your hypothesis.