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Keep in mind, traditionally, kings were elected. For life, usually, and not by anything near as universal suffrage, but basically a bunch of people got together, and picked which of a number of likely candidates was the best fit to rule.
Now, what with people being people and families making alliances to further themselves and all, it tended to be that the candidates all usually came from mostly the same groups of prominent families with enough resources to produce good candidates and influence others into picking their particular one, and eventually it tended to be one or two families that got the kingship often as not and past that point it was really just rationalization to make it inheritable - cleaned up a bit of the mess and confusion, eliminated some sources of weakness (in times of foreign threat) and introduced others (civil wars).

Anarcho-Monarchism could just be a return to that - elect the king, for life. The king is in charge of the large scale stuff and leaves people alone other than the taxes needed to do that stuff. If the king levies to heavy a tax or meddles with things the King rather oughtn't, then the taxed may revolt and revoke the kingship. And when the king is dead, elect a new one and long live the king.
 
A system with a protector/king that leaves the people alone for the most part could work as long as you can trust the king. In our world you can't because when a new king rises to power there's no guarantee that they will preserve the system since they will have a ton of personal power. Our history shows that you eventually whiff a roll on the die of kings and get an awful ruler who collapses your system, but eh ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (downside of one person having a ton of personal power).

In the PMAS world, it's more plausible since Meguca don't seem to have a definite lifespan, communities are generally much smaller, and Sabrina might be able to figure out how to mitigate the grief problem. There's still a ton of potential problems, but what system doesn't have those?
 
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If the only form of recall election is murder, then either steps will be taken to prevent a recall, undermining the anarcho, or other less disruptive forms will be introduced, undermining the monarchism.
 
All these last few pages of posts have told me is that Anarchism in it's pure form sounds much better than it's colloquial term suggests, and that we need to have the tag 'luxury gay space communism' added to the thread tags
 
Angrygenius said:
All these last few pages of posts have told me is that Anarchism in it's pure form sounds much better than it's colloquial term suggests, and that we need to have the tag 'luxury gay space communism' added to the thread tags
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A large part of how the colloquial concept of anarchy has been shaped is a direct result of people in power propagandizing against and shit-talking about Anarchism, for well over a century.
 
Godwinson said:
A large part of how the colloquial concept of anarchy has been shaped is a direct result of people in power propagandizing against and shit-talking about Anarchism, for well over a century.
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I mean, it's pretty obvious that's why it happened. I pretty much knew why it was such a bad term colloquially when I heard the good definition of it.
 
TLDR: in the same way that the ideal of communism sounds actually pretty good if we remove the individual ambitions/greed factor, actual Anarchism definetely sounds pretty ideal when you think it like that.

Of course, this depending on people not being themselves.

Edit: quick correction
 
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O2Deprived said:
TLDR: in the same way that the ideal of communism sounds actually pretty good if we remove the individual ambitions/greed factor, actual Anarchism definetely sounds pretty ideal when you think it like that.

Of course, this depending on people not being themselves.

Edit: quick correction
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as an anarchist, i dont think its perfect or infallible, i do however think its more workable than capitalism or more authoritarian communisms. (workable as in can be made to create results in invested in with the least tinkering) people who havent heard of anarchist theory often reinvent some of the earliest formal anarchist thought from back in the 1800s because its (one of) the natural reactions to the material conditions of capitalism.
 
ReluctntCrusader said:
From my understanding, an anarchist society under the protection of a monarch. This is similar to anarcho fascism which operates the same way. (Yes. Both are meme ideologies.)
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I thought anarcho-fascism was either pretty much decentralized fascism that explicitly rejects the anarchist mainstream of all unnecessary hierarchies being bad or anarchism but with ethnostates?
 
None of you are thinking LONG enough! You could make anarcho-monarchism pretty simply, if you have universal cognatic partition inheritance and then have literally everyone adopt everyone else.
Hence, assuming death continues to occur, you have an absolute, hereditary, nonrecovable monarchy in which everyone happens to be a monarch.
(Or better yet, have instead or partitioning the country, just have everyone technically be co-monarchs!)
 
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[X] Come up with a specific starting proposal with input from the rest of your friends.
-[X] Immediate cleansing for everyone present who wants it to establish your bona-fides, some amount of grief-seed-equivalents given to each group through grief seed refreshing - somewhere around five seed equivalents seems appropriate to you, it should be enough to sustain a team for a couple of weeks - and the claiming of a building by Yuki with a Clear Seed accessible from within, presumably in Chiyoda's territory?

[X] Ask Toshimichi if there are any other particularly notable Tokyo groups we should know about for the meeting.
-[X] Fill Chiyoda in on your specific planned proposal, to sort out details and spot potential issues.

[ ] Bring the idea of just *asking* about the memory modifications up to your friends.
-[ ] Only proceed if there's broad agreement to do so:
--[ ] Bring up your suspicions of memory modification up with Chiyoda. Try not to be unduly accusatory - if they've done it for the reasons you suspect, you can understand why they might have done it, but with something this concerning you felt the need to check.

Here's my vote, would like feedback, especially on the last bit (which I have not X'd yet) since it's potentially quite spicy.
 
Redshirt Army said:
[X] Come up with a specific starting proposal with input from the rest of your friends.
-[X] Immediate cleansing for everyone present who wants it to establish your bona-fides, some amount of grief-seed-equivalents given to each group through grief seed refreshing - somewhere around five seed equivalents seems appropriate to you, it should be enough to sustain a team for a couple of weeks - and the claiming of a building by Yuki with a Clear Seed accessible from within, presumably in Chiyoda's territory?

[X] Ask Toshimichi if there are any other particularly notable Tokyo groups we should know about for the meeting.
-[X] Fill Chiyoda in on your specific planned proposal, to sort out details and spot potential issues.

[ ] Bring the idea of just *asking* about the memory modifications up to your friends.
-[ ] Only proceed if there's broad agreement to do so:
--[ ] Bring up your suspicions of memory modification up with Chiyoda. Try not to be unduly accusatory - if they've done it for the reasons you suspect, you can understand why they might have done it, but with something this concerning you felt the need to check.

Here's my vote, would like feedback, especially on the last bit (which I have not X'd yet) since it's potentially quite spicy.
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I'd want to add a little something about poking Oriko.
 
IToadlyFrogot said:
I'd want to add a little something about poking Oriko.
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Good call.

[X] Fill Oriko in on the situation, ask for her thoughts.

[X] Come up with a specific starting proposal with input from all of your friends.
-[X] Immediate cleansing for everyone present who wants it to establish your bona-fides, some amount of grief-seed-equivalents given to each group through grief seed refreshing - somewhere around five seed equivalents seems appropriate to you, it should be enough to sustain a team for a couple of weeks - and the claiming of a building by Yuki with a Clear Seed accessible from within, presumably in Chiyoda's territory?

[X] Ask Toshimichi if there are any other particularly notable Tokyo groups we should know about for the meeting.
-[X] Fill Chiyoda in on your specific planned proposal, to sort out details and spot potential issues.
 
Redshirt Army said:
presumably in Chiyoda's territory?
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I think I'd prefer neutral territory, but by the sounds of it that doesn't actually exist in Tokyo, and Chiyoda's reputation as mediators makes them the next best thing. It will give them more leverage against the other groups, and whilst I trust their intentions, I'm not sure I trust their actions. Still, if Yuki controls the building, that makes it Constellation territory. Maybe put it somewhere bordering several territories, so it's not "landlocked" by a single group?

With that said:

[X] Redshirt Army

Also, I'm a little curious as to why Oriko hasn't chimed in on anything yet. She's been observing all this time, but she seems to be taking a back seat on it. We probably should have prodded her last update.
 
Muramasa said:
I wouldn't completely write off clear seed distribution yet. Not without observing the council session first.
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Agreed. We should tentatively agree, but keep an open mind to our initial solution at least until we sit in on a council meeting.
Redshirt Army said:
Here's my vote, would like feedback, especially on the last bit (which I have not X'd yet) since it's potentially quite spicy.
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For the bit about directly asking, I would ask how we intend to handle the fact that Mami doesn't know about the Witchbomb, since that is a distinct possibility.

Also, I want to ask Oriko first since I worry that she's been mind-wammied, given how quiet she has been, and I want to check that first, to inform on how to proceed.
 
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