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Kaizuki said:
My general thinking has been that really, flight is outdated and we should be ferrying ourselves around via Sayaclone.
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Wait, Sayaclones are a method of transportation now?

I've not been paying close attention to her powerset, but rapid movement is really useful in our agenda of going back and forth to all the places and talking to all the people. Ideally all our friends would be able to do that too. It's worth specifically looking out for.
 
Genial Precis said:
Wait, Sayaclones are a method of transportation now?

I've not been paying close attention to her powerset, but rapid movement is really useful in our agenda of going back and forth to all the places and talking to all the people. Ideally all our friends would be able to do that too. It's worth specifically looking out for.
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Sayaclones aren't inherently a method of transportation for anyone except Sayaka herself (part of the power is the ability to swap places with her clones at will).

Sayaka does have a copied teleportation power from Asami of the Pleiades, but it's not suitable for very long distance travel.
 
Redshirt Army said:
Sayaka does have a copied teleportation power from Asami of the Pleiades, but it's not suitable for very long distance travel.
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I have been trying to get a clear idea of its range for ages now, do we actually know? Can it not be effectively chained city-to-city?




Also, I think we have an abeyance. Should we just run that? I don't think it's too inaccurate...
 
Kaizuki said:
I have been trying to get a clear idea of its range for ages now, do we actually know? Can it not be effectively chained city-to-city?
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I'd ballpark it in the ~10 km range, since that both seems congruent with the way we see it get used and matches the actual length of a lightning bolt.

For scale, that means it would take 9 jumps to get from one end of Tokyo to the other, another 26 to get to Fukushima from Tokyo, 45 to get to Kyoto, 448 to get to Mandalay, and 923 to get to Edinburgh.
 
Redshirt Army said:
Sayaclones aren't inherently a method of transportation for anyone except Sayaka herself (part of the power is the ability to swap places with her clones at will).

Sayaka does have a copied teleportation power from Asami of the Pleiades, but it's not suitable for very long distance travel.
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I think she can copy one of our grief platforms via Kazumi's power in order to use it for movement. And she has Mika's power to suppress the boom. And she got some sort of extra physical enhancement from one of the Iowaguca. If so, she might be good for >20 km/s^2 acceleration in atmosphere, with no boom. That's 14 s for a 1000 km trip. Not teleportation, but not bad.

Also, even without the physical enhancement, 2 km/s^2 in atmosphere is something she can do all by herself and take meguca or durable goods with her. So Sayaclones are a method of transportation after all.
 
Redshirt Army said:
I'd ballpark it in the ~10 km range, since that both seems congruent with the way we see it get used and matches the actual length of a lightning bolt.

For scale, that means it would take 9 jumps to get from one end of Tokyo to the other, another 26 to get to Fukushima from Tokyo, 45 to get to Kyoto, 448 to get to Mandalay, and 923 to get to Edinburgh.
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I mean, okay, sobutlike-- I don't think this has a cooldown.
 
Elder Haman said:
Actually, don't we have a pretty full night planned of meeting with Hitomi's parents (to discuss mundane-magical cooperation ideas) and then cramming anti-mind whammy contingencies before the Tokyo meeting?

I don't think we have time for a party or anything else. We really do not want to skimp on the anti-mind whammy considering the hints we've had about Tokyo powers that be.
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That's a fair point - I was iffy on what was planned for the evening, but this and other posts have clarified it - cheers :)
 
Redshirt Army said:
Mika didn't let Sayaka copy her power, unless I missed something.



It seems to have a windup though, and I don't believe we ever see it used to carry someone else.
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Okay, if it can't carry someone else this is bunk. But I will note that with, like, a 5s windup, 10km/5s is... 4473.87mph. Which is better than we typically do in the MOF by a lot.

Teleportation is not typically an inferior mode of transit ^_^;
 
Sakura's power is decent enough for national scale, we can cover international trips and rapid response with Homura, but decentralising transportation would be ideal.

God, we really need a department of Enchantments or something. A research team at minimum, to organize synergies once we get big enough.
 
Redshirt Army said:
Mika didn't let Sayaka copy her power, unless I missed something.
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I checked, and this is correct. In our initial meeting with Mika, we mentioned power copying and then went off and talked IDs with Yuuki. Mika did not give Sayaka a copy at that time, but Sayaka didn't say anything other than a list of powers that didn't include it. I don't think we know what Mika's reasoning was at the time.

Mika might now be willing to let Sayaka copy her power, or to let Sayaka do an effect-copy of that particular application. I think it's worth asking, now or after the Tokyo meeting.
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StellarMonarch said:
Sakura's power is decent enough for national scale, we can cover international trips and rapid response with Homura, but decentralising transportation would be ideal.

God, we really need a department of Enchantments or something. A research team at minimum, to organize synergies once we get big enough.
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Yuki's power seems potentially suitable already. Is it a problem for her in any way to scale up, if we get her lots of buildings? We haven't really asked that particular question.
 
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Yuki has stated that she maintains peripheral awareness over each and every one of her buildings but I don't believe she's mentioned whether she can teleport things around in buildings that she isn't in (although she can probably just teleport in, teleport out since grief costs are covered.)

If so, she can handle transportation very very easily as soon as we set up hubs where we need them. I'm thinking, she has doors in each building that hooks up to another doorway in other buildings and so creates an instantaneous network that requires little management, with clear seeds or yours truly ensuring that the likely astronomical costs are negated.

Still, a step after that would be to permit agents to teleport into those hubs. Providing ways of escaping dangerous situations and emergency access to grief draining. Hence, enchantment avenues.
 
Between Sayaka and Yuki our options for rapid response in territories we hold are... considerable. That's before we consider that Homura effectively negates response time from an outside perspective. Still anything we do to negate or lessen travel time for our agents is important. Days like today are to be avoided as a rule, otherwise we tire people out mobilising. It's crazy our speed options places us probably in the upper 5% in terms of longdistance travel and that's not a viable longterm solution for our plans. We need a gate-porter that can handle non-set destinations. Can't see Saya-metheus being allowed to steal that particular brand of heavenly fire but we really need that particular movement option longterm, and even more preferably for Walrus-burger night.
 
The real advantage would be for anyone in our expanding group to easily go everywhere and do non-emergency things in a hurry.

I will admit, however, that I've also thought of the alternative version of the Iowa engagement in which Sayaka zips over the horizon at 100 km/s, cuts their battleship in half with a sword, and disappears over the opposite horizon. Not because that would have been especially useful, but because of the iaijutsu aesthetic.
StellarMonarch said:
I'm thinking, she has doors in each building that hooks up to another doorway in other buildings and so creates an instantaneous network that requires little management, with clear seeds or yours truly ensuring that the likely astronomical costs are negated.
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That's what I'm hoping for, but would have to check if it's viable.
 
We gotta optimize our synergies for instantaneous fulfillment of key performance indicators by strategically leveraging our best assets to capture critical opportunities for brand development around the globe.
 
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I think it's just a reference to Lutzsan's Fukushima picture. The impracticality doesn't really matter, magical girl outfits never get in the way of magical girl activities.
 
TJSomething said:
We gotta optimize our synergies for instantaneous fulfillment of key performance indicators by strategically leveraging our best assets to capture critical opportunities for brand development around the globe.
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Are you fluent in corporate-ese? We should add it to the language list if we can find someone who is.
Recurrence said:
It's crazy our speed options places us probably in the upper 5% in terms of longdistance travel and that's not a viable longterm solution for our plans.
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Sabrina personally has adequate options for fast movement. Maybe Sayaka also. Having more people able to do that would be useful, whether by infrastructure or by vehicles. I would be reluctant to scale up the vehicle solution too far even if we had a method, because even one collision with 1000 km/s flight would be bad.

I'd like to get Homura a range of options to move faster in timestop. It's a pity this is only 2011, otherwise an F-35B would work well; timestop solves the FOD issue with unprepared fields for takeoff and landing, and it could just VTOL from wherever. It's also capable of in-flight refueling, so she could keep a bunch of jet fuel to top it up with somehow.
Redshirt Army said:
Then another secondary star from the constellation can be added to the chapter logo, like how the American flag reflects the number of states.
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Sacrificing fidelity to the constellation in the sky would allow the freedom to make details and number of the stars easier to read, but if "unique logo + stars in black grey white" is enough to unambiguously identify a group, the flag has probably already done its job.
 
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