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Torgamous said:
Where did this understanding come from?
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The fact that I can't recall any transgender magical girls? I dunno, just something I thought up.

To be honest, I haven't thought about why there doesn't seem to be any transgender magical girls. This is literally the first time i've seen it brought up, and that was my kneejerk mental thought behind why.
 
Angrygenius said:
The fact that I can't recall any transgender magical girls? I dunno, just something I thought up.

To be honest, I haven't thought about why there doesn't seem to be any transgender magical girls. This is literally the first time i've seen it brought up, and that was my kneejerk mental thought behind why.
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there was a link to a brilliant one shot posted a couple pages back exploring an AU where Madoka was a Trans girl. It was very interesting
 
Torgamous said:
Unless there are any transgender non-meguca characters, it's usually safe to assume the writers just didn't give a fuck.
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Maybe. From what I understand (and it isn't much, so please correct me if I'm wrong), Japanese culture treats transgender people and people with Gender Dysphoria very poorly compared to the US, so it may have been due to anything from their primary audience's potential negative reactions, to their own biases.

Now I'm genuinely curious if a trans magical girl is possible. Where could we find one? (Before you say it, yes, Transylvania might be one possible location.)
 
TortugaGreen said:
I have to wonder if trans magical girls are a thing and if kyubey selects for "girls" based off assigned sex(/upbringing) or gender - if he selected based off assigned sex, male magical girls would be possible ("I wish I was a man!"). If he selected based on gender, male magical girls wouldn't exist but magical girls that can pass as male would - which is very much not the same thing but might appear as the same thing if the magical girl in question never got around to sorting out her dysphoria.
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The Doylist Reason is "Because PMAS is a magical girl show and thus is about magical girls."

In Universe, there's some bullshit from Kyubey about girls being "more emotional" which is obviously wrong, but there's a bunch of alternative explanations you could possibly use to justify it. I liked @AuraTwilight 's theory that for most of human history, girls disappearing and dying young drew a lot less scrutiny and concern from people than the same thing happening to males, and since QB is an alien that operates on multi-thousand year timespans it simply hasn't adjusted its modus operandi for modern gender equality yet. Combine that with QB making an exception for males with significant enough potential and you're golden, in my opinion.

And there's no reason whatsoever that gender dysphoria should affect potential in any way - if anything, I'd expect there to be a larger percentage of gender dysphoric magical girls than the general population, since such people are more likely to already be under stress and thus more likely to witch out, and because such individuals have an obvious wish that they'd want to make.

((And OOC, due to knowing Firnagzen, I can 100% guarantee that there are trans magical girls in the PMAS universe. Firn says trans rights.))
 
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Torgamous said:
All locations are possible locations. We exist everywhere.
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Yes, but mathematically.

Lets assume that each identity that a person holds can classify them into a group (Which I personally find offensive, but for mathematical purposes lets allow it). Lets assume 0.5% of the population of any given country is transgender (This is just a number I pulled from my ass, don't take it as scripture). Now let's assume that 1% of the female population are magical girls (another random number).
What would be the odds of us finding a girl that fits under those two categories? It'd probably be higher than we'd imagine, but it's still like finding a needle in a haystack that looks like a piece of hay.
 
Angrygenius said:
What would be the odds of us finding a girl that fits under those two categories?
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Assuming that someone's gender identity has no influence on their chance of being contracted (which may not be a safe assumption, there might be more trans magi), then the odds would be 1 in 200, which really isn't that low when you consider that Tokyo alone has nearly a hundred meguca.
 
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Angrygenius said:
Yes, but mathematically.

Lets assume that each identity that a person holds can classify them into a group (Which I personally find offensive, but for mathematical purposes lets allow it). Lets assume 0.5% of the population of any given country is transgender (This is just a number I pulled from my ass, don't take it as scripture). Now let's assume that 1% of the female population are magical girls (another random number).
What would be the odds of us finding a girl that fits under those two categories? It'd probably be higher than we'd imagine, but it's still like finding a needle in a haystack that looks like a piece of hay.
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Meguca per capita doesn't really matter here, since the people we meet are nonrandom and weighted strongly towards meguca. Also, that math doesn't change if we go to Transylvania.
 
You know what, So do I.

Dear god, I'm supposed to be doing a lab report, and I'm sitting here talking about the Rocky Horror Show. What the hell am I doing?
 
Angrygenius said:
I wanna get back to that one comment, that some of the mecuga we've interacted with might be trans and haven't told us. Any guesses on who they might be?
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I see no reason to speculate. If they haven't told us, that's entirely their business. The only reason we were speculating as hard as we were on Ono was because it looked like she was going to witch out if we couldn't figure out some way to help her and figuring out exactly what was wrong seemed like the obvious path to figuring out how we could help.
 
Nerevar said:
I see no reason to speculate. If they haven't told us, that's entirely their business. The only reason we were speculating as hard as we were on Ono was because it looked like she was going to witch out if we couldn't figure out some way to help her.
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All right then. Doesn't really matter in the end if it's not important.

Uhhhhhhh

So will it be possible that we'll still have time to get a new iPhone once we're done with the comforting meeting with the hostages and transporting Iowa back?
 
King Washington said:
Oh Godoka, he's gotten into other universes
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How would this actually turn out, though?

Witch-form is supposed to be an inversion, an expression of the despair that mirrors the hope of the wish.

However, acting or existing in a way that is aligned to your wish magic is as close as you can get to an actual free lunch, as the hope of your wish's magic directly supplements your own magical exertions.

Would her magical girl form be an idealized, freehearted, optimistic, classical witch of fantasy and adventure? Would she cast from grief points?

Would her witch form be a jaded, hardnosed, utilitarian, cynical, postmodern magical girl of mundanity and beuracracy? Would she cast from hope points?
 
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