I'm thinking about our assumptions regarding Madoka.
Sayaka is wrong, unfortunately. In the short term, her suggestion works. Perfectly. Sayaka knows her well.
In the long run it has no advantage. Sayaka doesn't have our insight yet.
We need to gently acclimate Madoka to a decision making process that lets her live. We have to raise a hero from inside her, sheltering Madoka is against her nature.
We didn't work enough on that yet, much to my chagrin.
Withholding information is a negative step, and we should come up with a way around it, because it holds Madoka in an inferior social position to us.
That is very dangerous. How do we get out of this? Being Madoka is conflicted.
Tuesday... Well, you really can't think of anything that might be an issue, bar one. The most important one, of course.
[12:53:15] <GriefBeGone> Tuesday sounds tentatively fine with me, but let me check with Mami first?
[12:53:16] <YatangoKagami> Of course.
[12:53:17] <TwoTails> soooo
You cock your eyebrow curiously at the screen even as you reach out by telepathy. That looks like someone who has something on her mind.
"Hey, Mami?" you say. "Do you think you'd be free for a trip out to Kagoshima after school on Tuesday?"
[12:53:38] <TwoTails> did you contract in mitakihara?
[12:53:39] <GriefBeGone> I did, why?
[12:53:40] <TwoTails> just curious
[12:53:42] <TwoTails> like, why Japan and all?
"Mm, Sabrina? Oh, the IRC group?" Mami asks. "I'd like that. Are you thinking of bringing anyone else?"
"Nope, why?" you ask, eyeing the screen. Interesting question to ask, you muse as you chew on the inside of your cheek. "Did you have someone in mind?"
"Mm... Rather the opposite. It'd be nice to take a trip out, just the two of us," Mami says. She pauses. "Is something wrong?"
"Nah, just got asked a bit of a weird question on the IRC," you say.
[12:54:09] <GriefBeGone> ... I mean
[12:54:13] <GriefBeGone> why *not* Japan?
[12:54:25] <GriefBeGone> Overall it's a bit of a complicated story, but honestly
[12:54:46] <GriefBeGone> The best answer I can give you *now* is that Mitakihara is my home.
[12:54:47] <TwoTails> huh
[12:54:50] <TwoTails> yeah, Iguess
[12:54:57] <GriefBeGone> Why do you ask, anyway?
"'Why Japan'?" you quote. "To which I answered, well - why not Japan?"
Mami's laughter echoes over telepathy, warm and sweet. "Well... I'm very glad that it was Japan, for what it's worth."
"So am I," you tell her. "So am I, Mami."
[12:56:23] <YatanoKagami> Because Yugito is terribly rude
[12:56:33] <TheWall> and I just got nodoka to sit on her
[12:56:34] <GriefBeGone> ... er
[12:56:39] <GriefBeGone> Weren't they fighting?
[12:56:47] <GriefBeGone> TwoTails seemed a bit irritated earlier.
[12:56:48] <TheWall> nsh
[12:57:00] <TheWall> just irritated with nodoka embarassing her all the time
[12:57:00] <GriefBeGone> ...
[12:57:03] <GriefBeGone> Fair enough.
"I'll leave you to it?" Mami says, affection in her voice.
"I'll see you soon," you murmur in response.
"See you soon," Mami echoes, and ends the connection. You sigh, and smile to yourself, because even if you have to stop talking to Mami now, you'll see her again soon.
[12:57:51] <GriefBeGone> Anyway
[12:58:01] <GriefBeGone> I just realised that I never actually confirmed:
[12:58:16] <GriefBeGone> Yeah, Mami's fine with Tuesday, so shall we make it official?
[12:58:27] <GriefBeGone> Tuesday, at... let's say about four?
[12:58:31] <YatanoKagami> That would be fine.
[12:58:31] <GriefBeGone> Also
[12:58:34] <GriefBeGone> I gotta ask
[12:58:49] <GriefBeGone> Did you literally get Hatsumi to sit on TwoTails?
[12:58:52] <GriefBeGone> If so, uh
[12:58:53] <GriefBeGone> Hi?
[12:58:53] <TwoTails> hi
[12:58:55] <TwoTails> um, yes
[12:58:58] <TwoTails> this is nodoka
[12:59:00] <GriefBeGone> Well... hi!
[12:59:05] <GriefBeGone> I hope you're well?
[12:59:07] <TwoTails> yeah, just
[12:59:17] <GriefBeGone> Ah, gotcha.
[12:59:29] <YatanoKagami> Is there anything else we can help you with?
There's a gentle 'please go away' if you've ever seen one. Which... well, fair enough. They still seem kind of scared of you, which is something you'll dig into it gently, maybe. Gently being a key word here. Hm. Still, your presence alone is enough to make the awkwardness all but bleed out of the screen, but you'll hopefully sort it out when you get to meet her face-to-face, and it's not as if you don't have other things to do right now.
Still, you've got one last question to ask, you think, before you do hop off... and it's not as if you can't multitask.
Oriko and Kirika first.
"Oriko, Kirika? Got a moment?" you call softly.
[12:59:34] <GriefBeGone> Well... just one question?
[12:59:35] <YatanoKagami> Yes?
[12:59:52] <GriefBeGone> Do you know anything about what the Tokyo Council are like, or if they're friendly?
[12:59:55] <YatanoKagami> Only by reputation.
[13:00:18] <TheWall> weeee're sort of as far away from them as possible while being still part of japan
[13:00:25] <YatanoKagami> We *are* rather far away from Tokyo.
[13:00:27] <GriefBeGone> That's fair!
[13:00:33] <GriefBeGone> Just thought I'd ask, in case.
[13:00:38] <YatanoKagami> Though... Nodoka?
"Good afternoon, Sabrina," Oriko says. "How are you?"
"I'm good!" you say. "You? And Kirika?"
"Quite well, thank you," she says. "And Kirik-"
"Hiya!" Kirika chirps. "I'm good too~"
"I should hope so," Oriko says, sounding amused. "The trackers have arrived, by the by, and we're... ready for you to set them up at your convenience."
"Eager, even!" Kirika says happily. "I wanna take Oriko out on a proper daaaate."
"Geh," you say with a frown. "Right. Hm. Ugh, I should have planned this better. I'll see what I can do. Homura and Sayaka will probably want to be there... Hitomi, too. But today after school... yeah. Yeah. I can't give you anything firm, but I'll do my best?"
"Understandable," Oriko says. "We'll eagerly await your word on that, then."
"Yeah, I'll do my best," you repeat. "Sorry 'bout that, I should be more on the ball about this kind of thing."
"Perfectly understandable," Oriko says.
[13:00:50] <TwoTails> it's how I know about the whole grief controller thing
[13:00:57] <TwoTails> I heard they come dwn hard on us?
[13:01:01] <TwoTails> but yeah that's it
[13:01:06] <TwoTails> heard it from a friend
[13:01:08] <TheWall> *hugs*
[13:01:12] <GriefBeGone> ah. Yeah, I see.
[13:01:14] <GriefBeGone> Well...
[13:01:24] <GriefBeGone> So I'll actually be meeting them this weekend.
[13:01:37] <GriefBeGone> If you want, I'd be ask anything on your behalf?
[13:01:39] <TwoTails> no! nonono
[13:01:48] <TwoTails> I just want to be left alone
[13:01:52] <GriefBeGone> That's fine too!
[13:02:02] <GriefBeGone> But I did mean just *questions*, just in case?
[13:02:20] <YatanoKagami> I think we'd be more than happy to stay out of their way.
You tug at your hair, thinking, and then frown and start trying to comb it back into place with your fingers. Honestly, the way it sounds, it sounds like the nyantokanyaru crew have been burned before, but it's a story they're unlikely to share right off the bat.
"Anyway, so, I wanted to check in on you guys," you say, shaking your head. "You particularly, Oriko, how's your Soul doing?"
"... settled, I think, after my epiphany," Oriko says. You can hear the tenderness in her voice.
"I'm happy for you," you tell her sincerely, smiling. Oriko's devotion to Kirika, and vice-versa, is honestly a spot of pure good that they bring to the world despite their rocky start with you.
And as for other rocky starts... A graceful retreat from the Kagoshima girls' IRC is in order, you think.
[13:02:25] <GriefBeGone> I can't argue with that.
[13:02:36] <GriefBeGone> Still, if you change your mind, please feel free to let me know.
[13:02:46] <GriefBeGone> I gotta go for now, so... take care, everyone?
[13:02:46] <TwoTails> bye
[13:02:52] <YatanoKagami> Until Tuesday, Miss Vee.
[13:02:57] <TheWall> don't forget the cake!
[13:03:01] <TwoTails> later! ~yugito here
"Thank you," Oriko says gravely. "It wouldn't have happened without you."
"I'm glad to have helped," you say, equally serious as you sign off the IRC, leaning back in your chair with a sigh and an amused smirk for the ceiling. "Seriously. You two are good people. Kirika, get the squirt bottle."
"Oh, I don't need it right now~" Kirika purrs.
"Not gonna ask," you say, toying with the string of your necklace - the necklace Mami made for you. "So, mushy feelings aside, I had some news about Tokyo and Iowa to update you about? Also, real quick before I forget - Oriko, you predicted the Soujus in on Monday, right? Most likely?"
"I... did, yes," Oriko says. "And we would be glad to hear an update."
"Alright! So..." While you tell Oriko about Tokyo and Iowa, you take the opportunity to sign into milesgloriosus.
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[13:07:59] <Genesis> argument noun To save this word, you'll need to log in. Log In ar·gu·ment | \ ˈär-gyə-mənt How to pronounce argument (audio) \ Definition of argument 1a: the act or process of arguing, reasoning, or discussing : ARGUMENTATION b: a coherent series of reasons, statements, or facts intended to support or establish a point of view
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[13:07:59] <Genesis> 1b
[13:08:03] <Genesis> ergo we're arguing
[13:08:13] <TomatoPotato> dictionaries are descriptive not prescriptive
[13:08:14] <Genesis> hi gbg
[13:08:22] <EleseCanGoDie> c: an angry quarrel or disagreement
[13:08:23] <EleseCanGoDie> heyo
[13:08:30] <EleseCanGoDie> none of us are *anrgy*
[13:08:38] <Genesis> dictionaries are descriptive and I say
[13:08:50] <Genesis> this describes an argument pretty well
[13:09:08] <Fireblade> I don't know, I might be very anrgy. You wouldn't like me when I'm anrgy.
[13:09:08] <Genesis> and *as you well know* not every line has to apply
[13:09:19] <Fireblade> Heya, GriefBeGone. How's it going?
[13:09:20] <GriefBeGone> Heya!
[13:09:29] <GriefBeGone> Are you arguing about whether you're arguing?
[13:09:29] <Genesis> yes
[13:09:31] <WhiteRabbit> Hi GBG
[13:09:37] <EleseCanGoDie> no, because we're not arguing
[13:09:52] <EleseCanGoDie> but yes we're *discussing* whether we're arguing
Ah, the sweet whimsy of Internet Arguments, capital letters intended. Or Internet Discussions, maybe. Especially when they aren't half-terrified of you, which is... really a nice change. You vaguely wonder about introducing the two groups to each other, but then again, language barrier.
"... so yeah," you say, finishing your spiel about Tokyo and Iowa. You'd left out speculations that Kyuubey's the one feeding Iowa information, of course - and the fact that you're planning a strike. You're not sure whether Kyuubey's always listening, but there's no reason to make things easy for it. "So that's about where I am now."
"It sounds like good progress," Oriko says, her next words hesitant and cautious. "Iowa is... concerning."
"Oh?" you say. "... huh."
Oriko had never mentioned Iowa as a threat, back when she had her clairvoyance.
"Indeed," Oriko says.
It's always possible that you were always going to have handled Iowa, of course, but it is a little disconcerting, now that Oriko brought it up.
[13:10:03] <TomatoPotato> NotANickname we know you wanna be a linguist
[13:10:08] <TomatoPotato> you've been quiet so far
[13:10:13] <Genesis> a cunning linguist? :^)
[13:10:19] <NotANickname> Don't you drag me into this
[13:10:28] <GriefBeGone> Also, pokemon again, Autonomy?
[13:10:30] <Fireblade> who's Autonomy
[13:10:35] <EleseCanGoDie> yeah who's autonomy
[13:10:43] <EleseCanGoDie> I don't know no autonomy
[13:10:44] <GriefBeGone> Aha!
[13:10:51] <GriefBeGone> So you *do* know Autonomy.
[13:10:51] <NotANickname> You
[13:10:55] <NotANickname> I like you
[13:11:00] <Quickshot> hi person I haven't met yet
[13:11:01] <GriefBeGone> hi!
[13:11:08] <Fireblade> Any particular occasion today?
[13:11:15] <GriefBeGone> Nah, just here to hang out mostly
You fidget with the string your necklace as you think. It could just be the fact that you apparently lack ontological inertia in Oriko's visions, and the distortion of your actions brought Iowa down on you. And you have to admit you're sort of curious about the necklace - Mami said that it wasn't finished, that she was going to practice the enchantment, and she's definitely been doing her best to keep it a secret from you.
You have to admit it's quite cute, not that you need another reason to find Mami absolutely adorable aaaand you've drifted well off topic.
Hm.
It's perhaps even likely that Oriko never foresaw you heading off to deal with Iowa, even, and it does seem like the kind of threat you'd have been incentivized to handle before they arrived in Mitakihara.
[13:11:20] <Fireblade> Ah, well, be welcome!
[13:11:31] <EleseCanGoDie> hey, anyone know where to get volcarona
[13:11:32] <Quickshot> nope
[13:11:40] <GriefBeGone> North route 18, man in the house
[13:11:48] <GriefBeGone> Well, that's a larvesta egg.
[13:12:02] <GriefBeGone> You can only catch *Volcarona* after you beat the game?
[13:12:03] <EleseCanGoDie> ah
[13:12:07] <EleseCanGoDie> perfect, thanks
"... we should, perhaps, converse in person sooner than later," Oriko suggests quietly. "I'm not asking for action on the trackers right this moment, nor that you visit today - we do know that Iowa isn't due to arrive just yet."
"Yeah," you say with a frown. Really, the key thing here is perhaps that Oriko doesn't know of your plans, and you can't tell her over telepathy.
[x] Vote in abeyance
[] Afterwards...
- [] Check on Oriko
- [] Check on the Animators
-- [] Arrange a meeting between the Animators and the Shiogama girls
- [] Drop in on Ishinomaki/Sendai/University group
[X] Also log into #milesgloriosus to hang out a bit and chat. Nothing heavy, just get to know them more.
-[x] If the conversation goes in a way that fits heavier topics, ask #milesgloriosus if they know anyone that might have info on the Iowa group, since they might be headed your way.
[X] While on IRC, confirm meeting times today with:
-[X] The Shiogama Refugees. (To check their mental health, warn about the Soujus, and check their witchbomb status).
[X] Contact the Animators, let them know about the Soujus.
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Alright, so: For the record, I'm not going back-to-back IRC updates in the future without heavy timeskipping. I thought I could make this work, but I overestimated myself. I'm not writing a script fic and these are damned near impossible to write as something other than a script-fic.
[13:11:31] <EleseCanGoDie> hey, anyone know where to get volcarona
[13:11:32] <Quickshot> nope
[13:11:40] <GriefBeGone> North route 18, man in the house
[13:11:48] <GriefBeGone> Well, that's a larvesta egg.
[13:12:02] <GriefBeGone> You can only catch *Volcarona* after you beat the game?
[13:12:03] <EleseCanGoDie> ah
[13:12:07] <EleseCanGoDie> perfect, thanks
Of course. The many benefits of having an internet in your brain.
As for what's next... I'd suggest that when we ask about Iowa to miles, we don't mention coobs possibly being their inside man probably genderless alien. Same deal as the telepathy; IRC isn't exactly secure against someone who's really dedicated.
Otherwise? Be Sabrina with miles, and organize something after school with Mom, Sayaka, Hitomi, and the Kures. Unless, did we have anything else planned for that time slot?
Hmmm. "Why Japan?"
What sort of a question IS that, and why would she ask it in such manner? It isn't the usual, at all. What sort of meaning is hidden under this?
I'd suggest it id relevant to her state of mind, at least.
Also, sounds like they DO have indirect knowledge of something concerning Tokyo, and they are suggesting it is bad rep. We didn't ask the about their neighbors? Too bad, that info would improve context for the opinion they showed.
We might need to build trust more explicitly. They might be a long term negotiation.
Oriko has something to say, so the better plan is to give her the proper reaction. While acknowledging her request, give her the response a friend would. We should see her tonight, perhaps? Her concern might change our other plans.
[12:54:09] <GriefBeGone> ... I mean
[12:54:13] <GriefBeGone> why *not* Japan?
[12:54:25] <GriefBeGone> Overall it's a bit of a complicated story, but honestly
[12:54:46] <GriefBeGone> The best answer I can give you *now* is that Mitakihara is my home.
[12:54:47] <TwoTails> huh
[12:54:50] <TwoTails> yeah, Iguess
[12:54:57] <GriefBeGone> Why do you ask, anyway?
See, this here is called a clever evasion, because an honest answer "My mom was here, and she thought I could help, so she ordered me into existence" would only confuse people.
I guess she asked because Sabrina Vee doesn't sound all that Japanese. Still rude.
Depending on how long the meeting goes on Tuesday this might also be an opportunity for a date/side trip afterwards, since we're out and about with Mami anyway.
Sabrina: Beats All Soulsborne games (including Sekiro) no hit, on the first day they came out.
Also Sabrina: That was easy!
Litterally everyone else: Am I a joke to you?
Hmmm. "Why Japan?"
What sort of a question IS that, and why would she ask it in such manner? It isn't the usual, at all. What sort of meaning is hidden under this?
I'd suggest it id relevant to her state of mind, at least.
Because if you know enough to make a grief control wish and get true grief control, you knew about witches etc before and you contracted *knowing all of that.*
Wouldn't *you* have considered where to contract while premeditating a wish like that? 'course, it wasn't actually like that.
We had less *stuff* we wanted to do back then, and eventually people started going well how much time is in a day and it turns out there's kind of a lot*.
*-- when your form of enjoyment is questing for friends and the salvation of the universe
Alright, so: For the record, I'm not going back-to-back IRC updates in the future without heavy timeskipping. I thought I could make this work, but I overestimated myself. I'm not writing a script fic and these are damned near impossible to write as something other than a script-fic.
With that in mind, should we specifically look to get a telepathy connection to someone in each IRC group we contact, so that liaising with them can be handled outside IRC?
With that in mind, should we specifically look to get a telepathy connection to someone in each IRC group we contact, so that liaising with them can be handled outside IRC?
Well, my stance ATM is that talking with Oriko about Iowa should be done with Homura, Mami, and Sayaka there. That line from her -- "Iowa is... Concerning" -- I'd sorta like to have Homura hear something to that effect from her. It can't hurt, to drive home that Oriko actually had things she worries for. Not a big deal though.