Puella Magi Adfligo Systema
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SaltyWaffles
I am dissapoint, son
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It's all fun and games until some girl cuts through your unbreakable shield and stabs you in the eyeballs
EtchedSteel
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I'll be optimistic
Mister Bad Guy
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You're talking about this question like Kirika has some kind of answer. Kirika, a girl so uninterested in experimentation that her solution to dealing with a witch she couldn't cut with her claws was to make even bigger claws.
The answer: use a claw. And if that don't work... use more claw.
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The interesting thing about Kirikas power is that it doesn't seem to affect things that were created by magic.
In the fight Mami's ribbons only go limp and don't disappear:
It also only kills the time stop magic from Homuras shield, but not the shield itself:
Our grief cloud dissipates when the anti-magic hits, but I don't think the grief itself disappeared, only the magic.
It just isn't a stable construct without the magic binding it together, similar to how she melts witches.
But doesn't make them disappear outright.
If Kirika has to fight a magical girl that relies on premade weaponry or super strength or something like that, her anti-magic could be useless.
Edit: Something else I just noticed: Homura's hammerspace didn't get affected by the anti-magic zone. Maybe it only works on active abilities and not passive ones, like shield storage?
The interesting thing about Kirikas power is that it doesn't seem to affect things that were created by magic.
In the fight Mami's ribbons only go limp and don't disappear:
It also only kills the time stop magic from Homuras shield, but not the shield itself:
Our grief cloud dissipates when the anti-magic hits, but I don't think the grief itself disappeared, only the magic.
It just isn't a stable construct without the magic binding it together, similar to how she melts witches.
But doesn't make them disappear outright.
If Kirika has to fight a magical girl that relies on premade weaponry or super strength or something like that, her anti-magic could be useless.
Edit: Something else I just noticed: Homura's hammerspace didn't get affected by the anti-magic zone. Maybe it only works on active abilities and not passive ones, like shield storage?
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EtchedSteel
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Speaking of which, don't we have a hammer? Have we ever hit anything with it instead of using grief powers? Have we even learned any cool poses with it?
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We mauled Kirika with it during the fight. But no poses yet.
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EtchedSteel
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We did once, against Kirika IIRC.
EDIT: GUIIIIIIIIILLOOOOOOOOPPPPPP NINJAS, I SEE NINJAS I SWEAR
Ah. Well, I guess that would be the one situation when all we had was a hammer
. Meanwhile, for poses, we also have a longcoat/cape thing, and grief wings. Still seems like a waste.
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To be honest, that we were able to take down Kirika with the Warhammer and one good grief marble shot, even if she was distracted by Homura gunning down Oriko, shows that her anti-magic is a great ability, but can be worked around.
But what if the post-it makes them shadowderp and think of us as even more of a threat?
Loops
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I'd like to think that at the moment Sabrina's the one who starts panicking over random pieces of paper left on rooftops.
Are we really going to start shadowrunning over someone else's possible shadowruns?
Uncreative
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Sometimes I feel like that's the next logical step. Then we start shadowrunning our shadowruns about other people's shadowruns and this continues until paranoia begins to spread to the farthest corners of the magical girl world.
FlatlineAskari
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... It'd be bad form for me to be insufferably smug at this point, wouldn't it. Fuck.
Most of the short-term actions look great, except for -
- this. Homura specifically wasn't willing to discuss it over a telepathic party line, what could possibly make you think that discussing it openly in front of Mami is a good idea? Do a couple of high-altitude transsonic Crazy Ivans or something to throw off pursuit, set down somewhere random, and ask to speak to Akiko alone.
As for actually ending the war, I think I've got the beginnings of a maybe-workable plan.
Okay. At this point, we have massive leverage over the Sendai group (we could make them virtually immortal, we could join the other side and doom them, and they probably currently think they owe us their lives. If we tell them to jump, they will jump or give us a fucking good reason not to) - but none over its opponents.
However! Sendai aren't the aggressors. There's no action we can ask them to take that'll end the war in a way we're happy with. (Bar a couple of long-shot options that we're not desperate enough for yet - exile, faked deaths, anything like that).
So; how do we turn the leverage we have into a war-ending bargaining position?
We can take them over. Talk Akiko into taking a demotion, and take direct personal responsibility for them.
Then, we go to their opponents in a spirit of sincere regret and contrition. Our subordinates have erred, and we cannot permit them to be harmed. We're going to be dealing with a Walpurgisnacht soon, and need cannon fodder. They owe us. We have territory to hold, and obligations to keep. Whatever reasonably-plausible excuse or combination of excuses, we just need them alive.
However, we also acknowledge the need to make amends, and are willing to offer effectively limitless reparations as long as the hostilities end.
We're personally dangerous enough and our support is valuable enough that, with a bit of luck, they'll take the deal.
FlatlineAskari
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... Are you reading completely different posts to the posts I'm posting?
I want to find out the problem in the immediate future. I just don't want to potentially witchbomb Mami on top of picking a fight with the local approximation of the forces of justice and righteousness.
Or do you think Homura gave us that non-answer for no reason? :/
Remember what we thought of them when we thought they were going to take the 5 grief seeds and leave (and with a teleporter, there's no way that's legitimately the actual cost of their travel). How many other girls have they done that to without someone like us to intervene?
Plus, remember how we shadowderped about them killing off a rival healer when we were debating whether to talk about Yuma existing? We still don't technically know they don't do that.
Plus, remember how we shadowderped about them killing off a rival healer when we were debating whether to talk about Yuma existing? We still don't technically know they don't do that.
@FlatlineAskari
I have some concerns about this clause, relating to a perception that this may create among the Ishinomaki meguca towards us.
Orrrrrrrr it could just be Homura being Homura. I find them making enemies through extortion more plausible than the witchbomb, and regardless, what makes you think we can get a private moment without triggering alarm bells for Mami right now?
FlatlineAskari
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We can easily make token resistance, argue the terms and sums to their heart's content. If they'll settle for no less, though, there's very little they can't demand of us in exchange for peace.
They have a lot of people gunning for them hard. Plenty of plausible reasons, very few of which we want Mami to hear. Mami won't be happy being (briefly) left watching over the rest with Kirika, but it beats the hell out of finding out the hard way that they're somewhat worse people than we thought.
*frowns* Being the Ishinomaki group's doormat is very unappealing to me.
But we're not going to be able to hide the revelation by going with any plan that involves negotiation and if it's a worst case scenario, better to ask the people who aren't going to just blurt out the details of what happened after they refused to heal.