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Neinet said:
We told them about them existing in the context of a potential threat in Asunaro, not that they will arrive in Mitakihara.
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All can discussion of the pair cam be found under "soujo", and "souju," in the story only thread. (Along with a number of passing references)

We talked about their arrival with Mami, the Kures, and Homura, shortly after our first conversation with Kazumi.
 
Where did we talk to Mami about their arrival to Mitakihara? I can't find it anywhere. I can find the Kures and Homura, but not Mami.
 
Neinet said:
Where did we talk to Mami about their arrival to Mitakihara? I can't find it anywhere. I can find the Kures and Homura, but not Mami.
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It's here:
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"I... admit, your knowledge there seems more complete than my visions," Oriko admits. "I was rather focused on local events. You mentioned the Soujus too?"

"Yeah," you agree, eyeing Homura. "You predicted them arriving in Mitakihara sometime this week, as I recall, but... bleh. I don't really know much about them. They're twins, I think, or maybe a split personality or something. Two Soul Gems, one body, fire and ice powers. And they collect Soul Gems."

"They collect Soul Gems?" Homura asks, a trace of incredulity in her voice.

"Yep," you confirm. "They steal girls' Soul Gems."

"That matches what I saw," Oriko agrees, frowning. "They come by Mitakihara targeting you, barring your intended interference. They seemed to be able to combine their powers into a channelled attack?"

Mami's grip tightens on your arm, and you smile at her. "Forewarned is forearmed," you tell her, reassuring and warm. "She won't get me."

Mami swallows, looking up at you. "Beat her into the ground," she whispers. "That- they sound like monstrous people. If they come here, we'll crush them."

"Yeah!" Kirika agrees, pumping her fist. "Kick their asses... Hm. Kick their ass? They only have one, after all."

"I like to think the best of people, but they do it knowing what Soul Gems are. It's not exactly excusable," you say.

Mami nods firmly in agreement. Her hand finds yours, interlacing your fingers.
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Also, going back...

Vebyast said:
That said, I would prefer if we could whack the Soujus before they even get to Mitakihara. Heroes should act, after all. What resources do we have that would allow us to intercept them for a takedown in the next city over? Alternatively, do we think that we could coordinate with Mami and Yuki to set up some kind of city-scale warning net?
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I think I'd like to look into a warning network here. @Cae Lumis suggested Sayaka training the birds to look for the Soujos, and I think that has a great deal of merit, both now and perhaps even and generally (if they can be trained to look for new arrivals with the correct rings and fingernail marks)
 
The Phoenixian said:
I think I'd like to look into a warning network here. @Cae Lumis suggested Sayaka training the birds to look for the Soujos, and I think that has a great deal of merit, both now and perhaps even and generally (if they can be trained to look for new arrivals with the correct rings and fingernail marks)
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Again, I further recommend the method of doing this is by taking full advantage of our ludicrous metaknowledge by using a Grief-Made Statuette of The Sisters Souju. A visual representation of her probably would be a much easier guide to training the birds in knowing what to look for and by-pass concepts they don't have themselves (remember how they had trouble parsing some of the description when Sayaka trained them to find she-who-must-not-be-named.)

Edit: After we're done using it for training purposes, we can turn it into a Mami figurine or something. Maybe a Madokami statue? Though that might raise more than a few questions.
 
Creating a good agreement and plan with everyone in the region should make for a much safer environment in general, and not-coincidentally make it easier to punk serial-killer style criminals in the future, as well as the sisters we know about.

The Phoenixian said:
I think I'd like to look into a warning network here.
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We need to go beyond just our animal buddies. Tech, and humans all have important roles to play. Single layer defense invites more attacker effort to gain victory. Multiple layer defense advertises the certainty of their losses. Birds first, because we have them up right now. Info networks, convoy plans, and hired watchers as we can. There are already public servants who secure the daily commuter traffic... if only we could get them to participate in our little nation, and make the phone call...

In terms of Magical Girl self protection, what we should aim for is a fall back plan for each girl, a communication plan (such as all-call location first, then threat, then status), and a minimum sized group such that in each case, the initial (presumably incapacitated) contactee can be evacuated by her friend, and the whole group has a better than 30 second survival even if they can't extract. Shelters, routes and tactics should be decided in advance, and practiced. Some girls come with combat smarts, but some don't. I want our folks to be skilled at not dying, even if they we don't want them to live as fighters. Passing out Shield charms would make for a clever preparation? Enough time for Homura to engage her magic is our basic measure. Once we can get grouped up, Sabrina and friends can then cancel out the crime in progress, resulting in Good for all.

Improve upon the theory as you will, please.
Making this behavior better is a key to our current growth period, as our patrol strength doesn't exist yet.
 
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Raiseth said:
Fuck I'm so slow
Please don't laugh too much
But only now it occurred to me, that considering Homura attended a Catholic school ( for whichever reason, not important ), it means she's more or less familiar with the Abrahamic imagery
It means she deliberately invokes the Fallen Angel wardrobe choice
Wings and calling herself Akuma
Because if she wanted to just call herself a demon, then Maou would suffice, but Akuma is the name assigned to Satan in Japanese Christianity
So she literally associates herself with contemporary Lucifer ( Baal/Samael/Azazel/Iblis/whatever )
Like, really self-aware of where she's going with the whole thing

God it took me six years to realize this
Well, I've spent four-five of them desperately trying to forget everything connected with PMMM, but yeah
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"Yes... Madoka! I will be the devil to your angel! The Satan to your Godhead!"

"Actually, Homura-chan, if you're trying to trap me inside of the conditioned universe again, isn't it more like you're the Mara to my Buddha?"

"JUST LET ME HAVE THIS MOMENT, OKAY?"
 
Vebyast said:
No need for lichbomb; the old assumption, that soul gems are "just" the source of power and a de-gemmed girl is powerless, still holds.
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Ok, this kind of attitude is really baffling to me. Every major secret a magical girl is unaware of is a potential pressure point that Kyuubey will use against us. I understand not telling girls secrets that we know they can't handle, witchbombing Mami is clearly out of the question. However, Kyouko can almost certainly handle the lichbomb at least, and its information that someone who is basically the guardian of another magical girl should have.

Also, more importantly, can we hurry up and tell all our friends that a freaking meguca serial killer is on the way? Masami and Kyouko's groups aren't technically in Mitakihara proper, so the Soujos could potentially end up in either territory a bit early, and that isn't even accounting for whatever butterfly effect we may have had on Oriko's initial prediction.
 
Given the timeline/story alterations to PMKM here, it seems that the Soujus would most likely fit into MG society as either mercenaries or contract assassins. They absolutely should be subdued and imprisoned for their crimes, but I think we can get away without killing them or indefinitely gemming them; they're psychopaths, but they're not insane or You-Know-Who-level committed to being complete fuckups. In fact, given their combat monster build, part of their penance could be to help hunt the biggest game of all-- Walpurgisnacht.

The reason I think that they're for hire is that they're incredibly prolific for a mere spree killer-- If we can rescue their collection, we're looking at something on the order of thirty souls we need to rehabilitate, and there's no way they could keep that collection safe and clean without a steady supply of Grief Seeds. It also brings up a couple gem-related thoughts:

  • How do we deal with the refugees? Umika and Niko('s powers) will let us rebuild their bodies and let them return to living properly, but these are girls who will have no worldly possessions, may be from as far afield as the continent, and are also legally dead. We're probably going to end up having to house them here in Mitakihara and/or distribute them to our allies, with all of the logistics (especially cleansing-related-) that entails.
  • As was mentioned earlier, some of their victims might have been Lich/Witchbombed girls who went willingly (I'm an undead monster/going to become an eldritch abomination- if I just give them the Gem/go quietly, I can be rid of this nightmare/never be a threat to others/people I care about). Some of them might not want to come back, and we need to figure out how to deal with that.
  • There's an extremely low but non-zero possibility (given timeline drift) that the Soujus have an undercover demilich in their possession, which is a wildcard we'll need to account for when engaging them-- hypothetically, it could be a Magi who's waiting for the opportune moment to sabotage them and escape, or one who's magically influencing them for their own ends.
  • We need to keep tabs on Kanna Hijiri. We know she's capable of forming Dawn of Hyades (aka Ikeasnacht), and that it takes a very large number of souls to do so-- The Soujus are the only people we know of with such a collection, so we need to make sure she can't swoop in for the gank after we defeat them. In fact, it might not be a bad idea to track them down to ensure that Hijiri can't get to them first.
 
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Always Happening said:
part of their penance could be to help hunt the biggest game of all-- Walpurgisnacht.
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Did you just make an elephant pun?
You did, didn't you.
Do you feel it?
It's me. Looking at your comment. Judging it. Judging you.
:V

Always Happening said:
  • How do we deal with the refugees? Umika and Niko('s powers) will let us rebuild their bodies and let them return to living properly, but these are girls who will have no worldly possessions, may be from as far afield as the continent, and are also legally dead. We're probably going to end up having to house them here in Mitakihara and/or distribute them to our allies, with all of the logistics (especially cleansing-related-) that entails.
  • As was mentioned earlier, some of their victims might have been Lich/Witchbombed girls who went willingly (I'm an undead monster/going to become an eldritch abomination- if I just give them the Gem/go quietly, I can be rid of this nightmare/never be a threat to others/people I care about). Some of them might not want to come back, and we need to figure out how to deal with that.
  • There's an extremely low but non-zero possibility (given timeline drift) that the Soujus have an undercover demilich in their possession, which is a wildcard we'll need to account for when engaging them-- hypothetically, it could be a Magi who's waiting for the opportune moment to sabotage them and escape, or one who's magically influencing them for their own ends.
  • We need to keep tabs on Kanna Hijiri. We know she's capable of forming Dawn of Hyades (aka Ikeasnacht), and that it takes a very large number of souls to do so-- The Soujus are the only people we know of with such a collection, so we need to make sure she can't swoop in for the gank after we defeat them. In fact, it might not be a bad idea to track them down to ensure that Hijiri can't get to them first.
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I know you were looking for an extensive discussion, but until it becomes an immediate problem, the answers are probably going to be placeholder ones. Doesn't mean we won't prepare for this, but unless Sabrina learns to delegate and time-manage and how to not sleep from Homura, we can't devote our 100 percent for every eventuality.

So the answers are

1) Mamigold Hotel founded by Hitmomi and funded by ( our, not their ) yakuza blood money.
2) Therapy. Fucktons of therapy. Anyone thinking they are better off as an inanimate Gem is one step away from suicidal.
3) Eh? Expand on that please, don't understand your idea.
4) Maybe. As soon as Oriko gets a hang on her powers. Unless you have any ideas about how to track Megucas. They'll probably come from the south, considering that's where most of the rest of Japan is... probably through Tokyo. That's just my lazy assumption, mind you.
 
we really need to try to mend things over with hijiri kanna and niko. we could use the fact that we are also an artificial human as something we can bond over, start over and try to have a friendlier rapour with an end goal of reconciliation between the two sisters and perhaps getting niko back into contact with her family,
 
Having *some* sort of early warning system for when meguca enter the city seems pretty darn vital considering we *know* the Soujo sisters and the Iowa group are coming, not to mention any other number of hostile meguca who might come after us due to Kyubey meddling/just hearing our reputation.

Maybe Inoue Yuuki could help us hack CCTV and make a meguca recognition system?
 
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robinic said:
Having *some* sort of early warning system for when meguca went the city seems pretty darn vital considering we *know* the Soujo sisters and the Iowa group are coming, not to mention any other number of hostile meguca who might come after us due to Kyubey meddling/just hearing our reputation.

Maybe Inoue Yuuki could help us hack CCTV and make a meguca recognition system?
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Every little bit helps. That's my position. As a plus, few Magical Girls of ill intent would be likely to think they were being tracked in a strictly Normal way. I'll think this, because victimizers often have an elevated opinion of themselves - "as they have magic, only magic is good enough to counter their efforts." Rings are not the easiest targets to photograph, but clever ideas can fix that.

soulsguardian said:
we really need to try to mend things over with hijiri kanna and niko. we could use the fact that we are also an artificial human as something we can bond over, start over and try to have a friendlier rapour with an end goal of reconciliation between the two sisters and perhaps getting niko back into contact with her family,
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Did we say anything to her today? Waiting for her to call us is less optimal.
I think we should be "available" until we can prove we have an interest level she can accept. Small conversation, carefully chosen, can illustrate our personality. I don't think it is impossible to help her find a good way of living.

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they're not insane or You-Know-Who-level committed to being complete fuckups.
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If they are taking trophies as in OTL, they are definitely insane. Saving their victims is a priority. But I would be comfortable giving them a chance to enter our jurisdiction and imprisonment on good terms. As long as living under our regulation works for them, it is the better choice. They might say yes? Oriko showed us this can be done. I'll just want us to be prepared to deliver unto them, if that is the way they wish to go. No risks need be taken, we have a purpose beyond them, people need Sabrina.
 
So it occurs to me that, despite the "names are important" tag, and despite Firn explicitly mentioning Masami having a meaningful name early on (Gaikotsu = Skeleton IIRC), we don't really do much analysis of names here.

So I think I'd like to look at a couple. Though it'll be a bit slapdash, since I don't speak or read Japanese.

Toshimichi Akane: I haven't been able to dig into the name meaning, but Toshimichi is apparently the (given) name of one of the people behind the Meiji restoration. Fitting for someone at the center of Tokyo politics, and implies she may well have brought it into being in the first place if that means anything. Which isn't new, but fits with current theories.

Additionally, there is someone of that (again, given) name who married an imperial princess a while back. Died under interesting what would be pretty interesting circumstances in a meguca world: Carbon monoxide poisoning in the same room as his mistress. (Though its worth noting that, yes, his wife did survive him by quite some years.)

Nodoka Hatsumi: Has a ton of different ways of being written and resultant meanings but an interesting one in there for a grief controller in her surname is apparently "hope" (Written 望 = "ambition, hope, desire" and 佳 = "beautiful, good, excellent." Google says that's "nozomi," but other sites include it under Nodoka. IDK, Kanji pronunciation rules are obscure to me.)

Notably, however I'm curious as to whether Nodoka might also be a pun: "No Madoka." The question is whether that makes her somehow the opposite of Madoka. Could be that she made an excellent wish, but she was "no doka" in terms of potential. (Though being No Doka might also imply she made a horribly poor wish... Which also fits with the fate of grief controllers.)

soulsguardian said:
we really need to try to mend things over with hijiri kanna and niko. we could use the fact that we are also an artificial human as something we can bond over, start over and try to have a friendlier rapour with an end goal of reconciliation between the two sisters and perhaps getting niko back into contact with her family,
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I want to, but I'm don't know how to get Hijiri to hopeful of Hijiri trusting us enough to do things directly. So much of what we saw of her character revolved around questioning the life she'd been given and who she was, and we kinda messed up understanding that, badly. Instead when the time came just encouraging her to be happy with her life, like everyone else was doing and she was already rebelling against, instead of giving her ways to figure the answer out for herself.

If there were something I'd like to say to her, I guess it would be something like:

"I don't know what you need, exactly, but I think I might be similar enough to you that maybe I can say things and they'll make some sense to you.

"When I woke up in an alley I had no memories of my own and never found record of any past but I knew everything of magic, and because of that and because of simply what kind of person I was, I made my wish to take a role in the world and aid other magical girls. I didn't have to, but being who I am it couldn't have happened any other way.

"Maybe someone deliberately made me or maybe some witch or something struck and things just happened that way, but I feel like I was given a purpose in life and chose accept it, and because I accepted it so easily, I guess I had a hard time seeing why you wouldn't.

"I guess part of me saw you as something like a sister --- Still does, in a way. But it's still not what I should have said back then.

"You see, I had my purpose in life and my role to fill but for all that I wasn't really complete until ...well, until Mami. And she taught me, well, what it meant to be human. What it meant to have friends. She gave me something beyond just being some hero.

"That's why I wish I'd encouraged you to leave, back then. Live abroad, or something. So you could find something that makes you more than just someone wished into being for some purpose or other, regardless of what you think of that purpose.

"I doubt understanding humanity is what you need, and I don't know what you do, but I hope you find it.

"And if you think you have a grievance to settle with me, or just want to talk to me, then come to Mitakihara. You're welcome here either way."

Wow, I teared up a little writing that out.
 
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The Phoenixian said:
I want to, but I'm don't know how to get Hijiri to hopeful of Hijiri trusting us enough to do things directly. So much of what we saw of her character revolved around questioning the life she'd been given and who she was, and we kinda messed up understanding that, badly. Instead when the time came just encouraging her to be happy with her life, like everyone else was doing and she was already rebelling against, instead of giving her ways to figure the answer out for herself.

If there were something I'd like to say to her, I guess it would be something like:

"I don't know what you need, exactly, but I think I might be similar enough to you that maybe I can say things and they'll make some sense to you.

"When I woke up in an alley I had no memories of my own and never found record of any past but I knew everything of magic, and because of that and because of simply what kind of person I was, I made my wish to take a role in the world and aid other magical girls. I didn't have to, but being who I am it couldn't have happened any other way.

"Maybe someone deliberately made me or maybe some witch or something struck and things just happened that way, but I feel like I was given a purpose in life and chose accept it, and because I accepted it so easily, I guess I had a hard time seeing why you wouldn't.

"I guess part of me saw you as something like a sister --- Still does, in a way. But it's still not what I should have said back then.

"You see, I had my purpose in life and my role to fill but for all that I wasn't really complete until ...well, until Mami. And she taught me, well, what it meant to be human. What it meant to have friends. She gave me something beyond just being some hero.

"That's why I wish I'd encouraged you to leave, back then. Live abroad, or something. So you could find something that makes you more than just someone wished into being for some purpose or other, regardless of what you think of that purpose.

"I doubt understanding humanity is what you need, and I don't know what you do, but I hope you find it.

"And if you think you have a grievance to settle with me, or just want to talk to me, then come to Mitakihara. You're welcome here either way."

Wow, I teared up a little writing that out.
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It's a very nice speech. Unfortunately, I'm positive that it won't work, because it'll all boil down to "Good for you, now fuck off and leave me alone." :(
 
Godwinson said:
It's a very nice speech. Unfortunately, I'm positive that it won't work, because it'll all boil down to "Good for you, now fuck off and leave me alone." :(
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Honestly... That's fine.

Bringing her back isn't the sole point of this. I'm not sure that can be done, not through any means other than force or her getting so wracked with guilt she becomes like Niko. (I can't help but wonder if that's what drives Hijiri to both stop and suicide in a fixed version of PMKM: Being so weighed down with regret she desperately wants her family back and yet also feels she cannot ever be worthy of such a thing. It's the core of Niko's decision to wish after all and the main thing that separates them as people.)

No, instead, it's highlighting her canon desires to have someone like her in the world. Even if they must be enemies, there's someone out there. And if there's one...

It's pointing her on a path towards what Sabrina found with Mami, towards looking for something new, without self-destruction.

It's telling her we won't come after her, and that she doesn't have to fear us, in a way she can't mistake.

If she hates us, then it invites her to target us and only us first. We can take it.

And if by some miracle it moves her to want to talk to us, well, there's a open door too.
 
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Honestly... That's fine.

Bringing her back isn't the sole point of this. I'm not sure that can be done, not through any means other than force or her getting so wracked with guilt she becomes like Niko. (I can't help but wonder if that's what drives Hijiri to both stop and suicide in a fixed version of PMKM: Being so weighed down with regret she desperately wants her family back and yet also feels she cannot ever be worthy of such a thing. It's the core of Niko's decision to wish after all and the main thing that separates them as people.)

No, instead, it's highlighting her canon desires to have someone like her in the world. Even if they must be enemies, there's someone out there. And if there's one...

It's pointing her on a path towards what Sabrina found with Mami, towards looking for something new, without self-destruction.

It's telling her we won't come after her, and that she doesn't have to fear us, in a way she can't mistake.

If she hates us, then it invites her to target us and only us first. We can take it.

And if by some miracle it moves her to want to talk to us, well, there's a open door too.
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its more about trying to tell her that there is another way than trying trying too convince her to give the pleaides another chance chance I guess?
 
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"the body is the fursona of the soul"
I immediately regret rereading the tags, goddamnit Firn! :jackiechan:
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I would like to claim my part of the credit as the one who came up with the batshit insane idea that a new identity technically qualifies as fursona in the first place facilitated this wondrous discussion and thoughtful discourse that enabled us to arrive to this most logical conclusion.

Carry on, citizens.
Or should I say, fursonas? :p
 
A line of inquiry has appeared to me:

In PMAS, Witches rehatched from a grief seed are stronger than before. Which has long been suspected but has recently been confirmed.

In PMKM, Asunaro worked together and used all of their magic to dewitch Kazumi, which is why Kazumi there had the powers of all of the Saints. In the end, Firn did edit the PMKM scenario to unfuck it, but not quite as severely as we had thought. A significant degree of the underlying physics may still hold true.

Which brings us to: could witches be stronger after rehatching because they gain a portion of the power of the magical girls that fed them?

And if so... Our plans for clear seeds involve pooling our own thoughts and feelings into them, condensed into magic. If we dewitch someone, will they gain a portion of our magic from that? Or the magic of all those who contributed?

Now I'm wondering if there's something deeper to the enchanted grief plebbing onto Aurora and Hildegard. We channeled our magic into both of them before we tried the enchanted grief after all.

So with all that in mind... Is that plebbing an inherent property of (clear?) seeds and enchanted grief or were they using a portion of our grief control because we filled them with our magic?

No they didn't start tugging on our grief cloud or anything, but when we gave them our magic, grief already infused with our magic, and brought the two halves of the equation into physical contact it had an effect.

I think we need to see what happens if we try pressing enchanted grief against a clear- or grief-seed that we haven't done anything to.

And if it doesn't pleb...

Would a magical girl, like Mami, be able to use a portion of our powers if we soulhugged and give her enchanted grief at the same time?

Is that, to a certain extent, what's already happening when we try channeling like that?

*adds questions to the science planner*

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EDIT: Another topic that feels worth investigating here is what our grief does to the equation. If clear seeds end up or absorbing powers or anything based on who uses them then... yeaaaaaah. That has significant implications for our efforts to spread clear seeds. Maybe not necessarily negative implications, but significant ones.

I think we may need to look into just how and why rehatched witches are stronger.
 
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On the subject of names, here's an idea. Wakahisa Hiroko.

Wakahisa could be written 若久 , 若 = young 久 = long time and this ties in with illusion powers as a possibility for her wish.

Hiroko = Hero ko, the one who saved Masami is what I consider to be the most likely interpretation.

Something I want to note is that they managed to maintain a Grief Seed surplus while dealing with Masami's injury, which is an impressive feat, as it is hard enough for most to maintain a surplus under more optimal circumstances.
Adhoc vote count started by Neinet on May 5, 2019 at 10:54 AM, finished with 243 posts and 17 votes.
  • [X] Suggestion: Sayaka might want to use Kazumi's power to copy the enchantment booster.
    [x] Continue enchanting as per previously locked in votes, until...
    [x] If Homura doesn't object, work on that written report with her in timestop before dinner.
    -[x] You want Hitomi to have time to discuss it before she has to leave.
    -[x] Working on it together with Homura, instead of presenting it to her at the end, means you can work over differences and take the time to explain how you think Madoka thinks.
    -[x] Make a copy for Hitomi to take home. Who knows, maybe her mom will be interested too.
    [x] Dinner!
    [X] What do you do after dinner/during downtime?
    -[x] Brainstorm over Tokyo with Madoka and Hitomi
    [x] Continue enchanting as per previously locked in votes, until...
    [x] Dinner!
    [X] Suggestion: Sayaka might want to use Kazumi's power to copy the enchantment booster.
    [X] Try an using enchanted grief device if Hitomi's mind reading suggestion fails in the same way soul gem analysis did.
    [X] What do you do during downtime?
    -[x] Brainstorm over Tokyo with Madoka and Hitomi
    --[x] If Homura doesn't object, work on that written report with her in timestop before dinner.
    ---[x] You want Hitomi to have time to discuss it before she has to leave.
    ---[x] Working on it together with Homura, instead of presenting it to her at the end, means you can work over differences and take the time to explain how you think Madoka thinks.
    ---[x] Ask her opinion on Sayaka helping with the write up. On the one hand she was there too and would have her own insights, on the other she doesn't know everything.
    -[x] Make a copy for Hitomi to take home. Who knows, maybe her mom will be interested too.
    [X] Cut at/after dinner, as appropriate.
    - [X] Brainstorm over Tokyo with Madoka and Hitomi
    -[X] Ask Homura to stay after the others leave, whenever that might be
    [x] Continue enchanting as per previously locked in votes, until...
    [x] Dinner!
    [X] What do you do after dinner/during downtime?
    - [X] Brainstorm over Tokyo with Madoka and Hitomi
    -- [X] Prepare that written brief for Homura to inspect first
    [X] More sappy blushes with Mami.
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The Phoenixian said:
(Though being No Doka might also imply she made a horribly poor wish... Which also fits with the fate of grief controllers.)
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Or perhaps she has difficulty in thinking that it is right to Hope? We can give her the Word.

Hijiri is someone who is at risk. We will succeed if we can get her to at least master her impulses, and there are lots of ways to do that. If she longs to have an "authentic" authority figure to chafe at, we can go that route even if it is unsatisfying. The basic minimum action is to not break away from our position, not isolate her. Just calling over the air is functional this week. Is this the long-term stability?
More likely, I believe she would respond to a frontier where she can define herself. Niko lacked for good development in her family, and therefore Hijiri has all the same basic traits. As long as we can get her to address her own issues, and not externalize them inappropriately, we can eventually solve this. I think she should find a place for herself in the orbit around Sabrina, where she finds a ready made bias towards community and a healthy amount of challenge. But that's just me.

Looking forward to the outcomes of the Enchanting session!
 
It occurs to me that we almost certainly won't find any way to provide remote cleansing, nor will we find a way to revert grief seeds into magical girls. Because as soon as we can manage either of those, it would immediately cause everything else Sabrina might do with her time to come to a crashing halt as it becomes a moral requirement to devote all of her time to that. Thus it won't happen because at the Doylist level it would amount to ending the quest on the spot.
 
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