Dragontrapper
Homeless Draconis
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Oh my Madokami, it even has a watermark.
Puella Magi Adfligo Systema
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Oh my Madokami, it even has a watermark.
Raiseth
I Find Your Lack of Memes Disturbing
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- Russia
Fuck I'm so slow
Please don't laugh too much
But only now it occurred to me, that considering Homura attended a Catholic school ( for whichever reason, not important ), it means she's more or less familiar with the Abrahamic imagery
It means she deliberately invokes the Fallen Angel wardrobe choice
Wings and calling herself Akuma
Because if she wanted to just call herself a demon, then Maou would suffice, but Akuma is the name assigned to Satan in Japanese Christianity
So she literally associates herself with contemporary Lucifer ( Baal/Samael/Azazel/Iblis/whatever )
Like, really self-aware of where she's going with the whole thing
God it took me six years to realize this
Well, I've spent four-five of them desperately trying to forget everything connected with PMMM, but yeah
Please don't laugh too much
But only now it occurred to me, that considering Homura attended a Catholic school ( for whichever reason, not important ), it means she's more or less familiar with the Abrahamic imagery
It means she deliberately invokes the Fallen Angel wardrobe choice
Wings and calling herself Akuma
Because if she wanted to just call herself a demon, then Maou would suffice, but Akuma is the name assigned to Satan in Japanese Christianity
So she literally associates herself with contemporary Lucifer ( Baal/Samael/Azazel/Iblis/whatever )
Like, really self-aware of where she's going with the whole thing
God it took me six years to realize this
Well, I've spent four-five of them desperately trying to forget everything connected with PMMM, but yeah
Cae Lumis
Chief Director of Shinra Archaeology Department
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I'm... just gonna link this here. Suffice to say, there is much more to it than simply being a Catholic School.
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The Phoenixian
The Glacier Witch
- Location
- My own little world
*reread reaches current chapter*
*notes that Sayaka mentions hating memory manipulation, and the idea it could be applied to her.*
*Squints at Rebellion and takes it as a reminder to update angel-chat plans for a post-witchbomb argument*
EDIT: AUGH, ate my post with formatting.
*notes that Sayaka mentions hating memory manipulation, and the idea it could be applied to her.*
*Squints at Rebellion and takes it as a reminder to update angel-chat plans for a post-witchbomb argument*
EDIT: AUGH, ate my post with formatting.
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- Somewhere up the tree
"Miki Sayaka, have you ever to your knowledge met or come into contact with a celestial being or entity with a range of power bordering on being a fundamental force of reality and been made into its emissary?"
sayaka: "wat"
Cae Lumis
Chief Director of Shinra Archaeology Department
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- Southern New Jersey
How do we test her to see if she is Madoka's Secretary and not just this Universe's/ Timelines Sayaka. I guess we could steamroll our way through and bluntly ask, "Does The Law of Cycles mean anything to you? A Being of Hope said to arrive when a Magical Girl nears the point of becoming a Witch to take in her soul?" And hope we roll a perfect D20 Perception to see if we can catch a Micro-twitch of a reaction out of her.
Edit: Ninja'd by @soulsguardian
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Speaking of Rebellion Revelations... doing some quick rereading on Material has caused me to realize something. There are witch runes on "Akuma Homura's" ear piece...
Homul... Homulilly.
I think Akuma Homura... might actually be better called Ascended Homulilly. Just a thought.
AuraTwilight
The Sorcerer of Smiles
- Location
- The Silver City
Not quite. Homucifer's Earring is Homulilly... you know, as like, a Doppel. It can move on its own as a salamander and she needs it to translate the Clara Dolls and such for her.
The Phoenixian
The Glacier Witch
- Location
- My own little world
Okay, here's the rest of that post that got eaten. That'll remind me to use closing tags on horizontal rules. (Incidentally, you guys have no idea how many posts I have half-written here and cut for later, more appropriate points just because my thoughts spilled out that much.)
So, my reread also reminded me that we need to schedule the visit to Tokyo and forgot to due to the whole scheduling thing. The current current suggested times are Saturday, Sunday, or a weekday after school. Of these, I prefer to consider Saturday, Monday, and Wednesday for reasons I'll explain.
Regardless of what we pick, there's certain scheduling conflicts that may come up.
First off, there's a couple days that should be locked off, I feel.
We should also put this to our friends too, but I'm iffy about that being this vote.
... Honestly, I'm wondering about just going and... printing out the next few days of day planner/schedule (in a high level, low detail way) and having our friends give input on it.
[x] Continue enchanting as per previously locked in votes, until...
[x] Dinner!
[X] Suggestion: Sayaka might want to use Kazumi's power to copy the enchantment booster.
[X] Try an using enchanted grief device if Hitomi's mind reading suggestion fails in the same way soul gem analysis did.
[X] What do you do during downtime?
-[x] Brainstorm over Tokyo with Madoka and Hitomi
--[x] If Homura doesn't object, work on that written report with her in timestop before dinner.
---[x] You want Hitomi to have time to discuss it before she has to leave.
---[x] Working on it together with Homura, instead of presenting it to her at the end, means you can work over differences and take the time to explain how you think Madoka thinks.
---[x] Ask her opinion on Sayaka helping with the write up. On the one hand she was there too and would have her own insights, on the other she doesn't know everything.
-[x] Make a copy for Hitomi to take home. Who knows, maybe her mom will be interested too.
[X] Cut at/after dinner, as appropriate.
So I rearranged things to work more clearly because my old idea was dumb and warped the vote in weird ways and it's so much simpler to just say "cut at dinner."
I also addressed some concerns of my own and @Torgamous. Added the question of whether Homura wanted Sayaka's input and a note to attempt enchant grief in case mind reading runs into the same problem soul gem analysis did. Since that seems not unlikely.
Figured it didn't add more plans, just more detail to the ones that exist.
So, my reread also reminded me that we need to schedule the visit to Tokyo and forgot to due to the whole scheduling thing. The current current suggested times are Saturday, Sunday, or a weekday after school. Of these, I prefer to consider Saturday, Monday, and Wednesday for reasons I'll explain.
Regardless of what we pick, there's certain scheduling conflicts that may come up.
First off, there's a couple days that should be locked off, I feel.
- Tomorrow is simply too soon, IMO
- Sunday is the trip, and I want that day to be dedicated to that.
- Enchantment practice will be Tuesday and Thursday, afternoons and I really don't want to mess with that.
- Saturday is planned to be an internal-administration day. There's a free spot where folks are discussing heading abroad (Kyushu or Kyoto) but that could be switched to Tokyo. Alternatively, it may be wiser to simply dedicate the entire day on activities within Mitakihara and any time not solving problems to being with our friends and building things up that way.
- Monday is a KyouSaya training day and also when the Soujos are expected to hit. If we can prepare for that beforehand and leave the day dedicated to just those two activities, we may be able to solve things in the morning or afternoon, and leave after school is out.
- Wednesday, meanwhile, is free save for Sayaka's training but also the furthest date from now. On the other hand, it also means Madoka and Hitomi have the most time to complete their political analysis.
We should also put this to our friends too, but I'm iffy about that being this vote.
... Honestly, I'm wondering about just going and... printing out the next few days of day planner/schedule (in a high level, low detail way) and having our friends give input on it.
[x] Continue enchanting as per previously locked in votes, until...
[x] Dinner!
[X] Suggestion: Sayaka might want to use Kazumi's power to copy the enchantment booster.
[X] Try an using enchanted grief device if Hitomi's mind reading suggestion fails in the same way soul gem analysis did.
[X] What do you do during downtime?
-[x] Brainstorm over Tokyo with Madoka and Hitomi
--[x] If Homura doesn't object, work on that written report with her in timestop before dinner.
---[x] You want Hitomi to have time to discuss it before she has to leave.
---[x] Working on it together with Homura, instead of presenting it to her at the end, means you can work over differences and take the time to explain how you think Madoka thinks.
---[x] Ask her opinion on Sayaka helping with the write up. On the one hand she was there too and would have her own insights, on the other she doesn't know everything.
-[x] Make a copy for Hitomi to take home. Who knows, maybe her mom will be interested too.
[X] Cut at/after dinner, as appropriate.
So I rearranged things to work more clearly because my old idea was dumb and warped the vote in weird ways and it's so much simpler to just say "cut at dinner."
I also addressed some concerns of my own and @Torgamous. Added the question of whether Homura wanted Sayaka's input and a note to attempt enchant grief in case mind reading runs into the same problem soul gem analysis did. Since that seems not unlikely.
Figured it didn't add more plans, just more detail to the ones that exist.
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- USA, Midworld world line
Homura is aware of herself - but is she acting out a script planted in her mind?
If we go with her internalizing a concept of the Devil for her early childhood,
and her school was a Catholic school,
what else is a Sin, something that only the Devil could approve of?
The dialogue for the Akuma Homura scene includes her talking about the existence of her love.
A love she has just come to terms with, while simultaneously falling into despair.
Please tell me you have met at least one person who was able to talk about their personal experience of leaving behind a "book religion" childhood for an adult life without a church? How did that go for them?
Depending upon what sort of Catholic school Firn sends her to, I think simply the fact of being processed through religious instruction has relevance to understanding her self worth.
When I think about it, that is really suited to become Walpurgisnacht's title? She actually comes with a low pressure cell, though she hasn't been sociable enough to require business cards lately.
If you want 90's cred, making our name line "M.D. Sabrina" would be properly niche, somewhat chuuni, and technically appropriate.
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Cae Lumis
Chief Director of Shinra Archaeology Department
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- Southern New Jersey
Suffice to say, due to my upbringing, I do have a very clear perspective of what might rattling around in Homura's mind. I won't make it any secret, I was born and raised a Catholic myself, went to CCD in the afternoon of every Wednesday after my Public School and had my Confirmation. However, between family feuds due to inheritance, the way my Grandmother's funeral was carried out (along with the last few years of her life in the care of said family branch) causing me to not attend church since 2012 along with my personal beliefs running far more liberal than said branch involved in the feud... it probably would be more accurate to call me a lapsed Catholic at this point. So... yes... I have a pretty good idea of whats going on in Homura's mind.
This would also be on top of having a personal history of being bullied, socially rejected, and treated as an outcast.
She sees her love for Madoka as Abnormal (Urobuchi more or less admits that Homura most likely does harbor romantic love for Madoka) and knows the lengths she went too along with the methods she's chosen were not right (i.e. tearing Madoka from the Law of Cycles bit). So, being raised in an environment where she was already seen as abnormal by her peers, ostracized and isolated... the dolls that would become the visual inspiration for her Clara Dolls most likely being her only friends growing up in a religiously ran orphanage... Its no surprise at all that, rather than reject the notions others have for her and decide who she is that she instead embraced every hate-filled opinion of her and called herself a Demon. She might not believe in the doctrine itself, but the teachings may be coloring the way she sees both herself and the world around her subconsciously. After all, even when she discovered she herself was the Witch in Rebellion, she did exactly what she told Sayaka she would do to the Witch when discovered... she condemned herself to Death.
Anyway, the reason I relinked the discussion about the Orphanage bit was just to remind the fact that "Catholic School" in Japan often means Orphanage, and that her religious upbringing has another dimension of having been socially isolated and ostracized for about as long as she had been alive potentially. Sort of like Lucy from Elfen Lied in this regard, actually (minus the whole abandoned in the woods bit... probably). Doing one's research, one finds that a good number of Orphans in Japan are often stuck in adoption limbo because a child's living relatives often veto giving the child away, but at the same time refuse to adopt said child themselves, leaving them perpetually stuck there till they reach a certain age. To quote from the Elfen Lied wiki (yay research for a side project)
The relevancy of this I think is plain. Going with the idea she's been living in a Catholic-Ran Orphanage, her personal feelings and traumas of abandonment and loneliness stem from multiple injustices from many directions. Fellow Orphans who could potentially have looked down on her and bullied her, Caretakers/ Nuns potentially not motivated to provide proper care and neglect her, along with being a potential source for why she would/ could deem her love of Madoka as evil.
Apologies if this came across as... messy or rambly. Kinda.... got personal there having to dredge up that sordid past of mine. I don't mind being frank about it though, just... urgh.
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The Phoenixian
The Glacier Witch
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- My own little world
I mean, it's been called angeru-theory because it started that and because of the imagery involved:
-but it's a bit broader than just that. Honestly, Sayaka having Madoka-style metaknowledge (madoknowledge?) is far more likely.
Going further and digging down, the basic gist of it is "Okay, Sayaka been doing weird things and some of it ties into Rebellion: Why?"
I've gone into this enough that it may annoy the rest of the old guard at this point, but if you guys want cliff notes:
Sayaka's power-copying, is markedly similar to her using other Law of Cycles familiars and copying Kyouko's spear during Rebellion. It's why we looked into seeing if her gems were similar to familiars. (Result: Some similarity, but inconclusive. We should probably try seeing if they grow with use, and just outright mentioning it once she's witchbombed.)
Her air step also has that kind of imagery to it: Imagery of angels, knights windmills, music, and other things appear during it. The angels being pretty important there.
Beyond that, Sayaka has been attempting to solving problems: Part of why Mami died in canon is because Sayaka and Madoka didn't have her cell phone number and Madoka had to run to get her. Here she's had that number since before we met her. Likewise, she never had her music player that caused the fight with Kyousuke. Likewise, she waited to make sure Hitomi came to school on a day she would have been witch-kissed and absent in canon.
Her air step also has that kind of imagery to it: Imagery of angels, knights windmills, music, and other things appear during it. The angels being pretty important there.
Beyond that, Sayaka has been attempting to solving problems: Part of why Mami died in canon is because Sayaka and Madoka didn't have her cell phone number and Madoka had to run to get her. Here she's had that number since before we met her. Likewise, she never had her music player that caused the fight with Kyousuke. Likewise, she waited to make sure Hitomi came to school on a day she would have been witch-kissed and absent in canon.
And of course, there's the resultant question: If all this is real, what caused it, and has it affected Homura too?
My own current plan, at the highest level, is to basically give her the rundown after the witchbomb, see if we can figure out the extent of it all, and find out how it works and what this can tell us about a possible cause.
EDIT: A link to the original post that got me on this whole thing, since it explains some of the cliffnotes stuff in more detail, even if I don't think I'd started going this far with it yet.
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Cae Lumis
Chief Director of Shinra Archaeology Department
- Location
- Southern New Jersey
Actually... this... makes alot of sense. What if when Madoka made her wish for the means to fix everything... it created a bunch of nip-in-tuck changes to the following timeline to guarantee everything would be fixed: Sayaka's insightfulness being increased dramatically with her own brand of Madoknowledge, Homura becoming more willing to work with others than normal, Nagisa's past being altered, Kyoko having Yuma to care for (by extension saving Yuma from her grisly fate when she isn't contracted), and Mami... having us to help her not feel alone by us becoming the one who connects everyone together and helps unite everyone.
Yeah... Sayaka having Madoknowledge is something I think is a possible avenue.
We should probably let Sayaka and Mami know that the Soujos are coming to Mitakihara on Monday according to Oriko and ask for their input on a plan. I think we've only mentioned the Soujos to our team in the two contexts above so far
Vebyast
Nascent Transhuman
You know, actually, I'm going to amend my answer to this question. The body is not the soul's fursona. I know far too many people whose bodies aren't anything like anything they'd have chosen for themselves.
No, your body is your soul's fursuit. Complete with wide variation in build quality and accuracy.
Cae Lumis
Chief Director of Shinra Archaeology Department
- Location
- Southern New Jersey
Planning, now that is a specialty of mine. Reposting the draft of the Battleplans I wrote for dealing with the Soujo's, with minor additions/ updates added onto it. The operation has been renamed from Pisces to Gemini.
Objective: Create suitable defenses and network to neutralize The Sisters Soujo.
Current Prep Time Remaining: 3 Days.
Victory Conditions:
1) Madoka remains uncontracted.
2) Minimal to Zero Collateral Damage to Mitakihara.
3) All allies survive.
4) Sisters Soujo are neutralized (Gemmed, or Shattered. Gemmed preferable, though with risk.)
Fail Conditions:
1) Madoka manipulated to contract to save allies.
2) Allied soul gems are stolen or shattered.
3) Unrepairable collateral damage to Mitakihara.
4) Sisters Soujo escapes.
Target: Ayase/ Luca Soujo
Capabilities (Currently known, variables makes intel unreliable):
"Ayase" Soujo
- Avviso dell' Ustione (Burn Notice): Simple Fireball Spell in appearance, its impact against Kanna's clones would suggest temperatures above 870–980°C (1,600–1,800°F) due to the instantaneous conflagration and disintegration of their bodies. Avoid at all cost.
- Secondo Stagione (Second Season): By its appearance, it seems to be an explosion based spell. Assume similarly destructive capabilities.
"Luca" Soujo
- Caso Freddo (Cold Case): An Ice Spell capable of encasing a target. By the way Kazumi was able to free herself, it appears to not cause instantaneous freezing of the body, suggesting its purpose is to imprison its victim to make collecting easier.
- No other demonstratable abilities were shown, however, this may be because of how the Sisters Soujo decided to skip to their full capability. Due to Luca being less known of a threat, engage her with greater caution than Ayase.
Sisters Soujo (combined):
- Picchi Gemellati (Twin Peaks): Able to use their individual spell sets in perfect synchronization, taking advantage of the effects caused by severe cold meeting severe heat to generate explosions (magic.... ugh.... headdesks lol)
- Both are expert swordfighters with swift reflexes (Ayase demonstrating the capabilities of slicing rockets clean in two). Meleé Fighters be cautious (especially Sayaka)
Guaranteed Assets:
1) White Ribbon Team (Mami Tomoe, Sabrina Vee, Homura Akemi, Sayaka Miki)
2) Kure Team (Oriko and Kirika Kure)
3) Pleiades Saints Team (Michiru Kazusa, Kaoru Maki, Umika Misaki, Saki Asami, Mirai Wakaba, Satomi Usagi, Niko Kanna)
4) Fukushima Mercenary Team (Tsuruya Yuki, Akiyama Atsuko, Koizumi Sasami, Nishimura Moe, Nanami Shinobu)
Conditional/ Potential Assets:
1) Kazamino Team (Kyoko Sakura, *Yuma Chitose)
2) Animator Team (Wakahisa Hiroko, Gaikotsu Masami, Ono Megane)
3) Sendai Team (Mori Rin, Tachibana Sakura, Tanaka Tamiko, Minami Yumi. Hamasaki Akiko currently out of comission)**
4) Touhoku Team (Suzuki Rei, Suzuki Haru, Tsubaki Chouko, Umeko Yuko)**
5) Shiogama Refugees (Watanabe Noriko, Saito Akemi)
*Yuma Chitose should be held in reserve and out of the line of battle, however, her personality as shown in Oriko Magica means that its highly likely we might end up seeing her assist with Kyoko anyway, regardless of whether or not we suggest that she'd sit this battle out.
**Avoid deploying both forces at the same time.
Assessment:
In OTL (or whichever loop PMKM occurred in), The Sisters Soujo were able to be taken down by synchronized attacks between Kazumi and Kanna. Therefore, involving our conditional/ potential assets for this operation is unnecessary and could, in fact, drain vital individuals needed for Walpurgisnacht and Iowa. However, we do not know if the variables that have affected this timeline (including Feathers) have in somehow caused The Sisters Soujo to have gained additional abilities/ spells/ etc. Therefore, I recommend at least bringing in The Pleiades Saints to bolster White Ribbon in offensive capabilities. Due to how the original fight concluded, White Ribbon and the Saints should provide sufficient force necessary.
In addition, I recommend that Fukushima is to be brought in. However, their role should be defensive in nature. Have them guard the Shiogama Refugees and the Kure's in the event Soujo decides to try and use them as bait to lure us in for a rescue. After we can confirm that the Refugees and or the Kure's are no longer in danger (by virtue of us engaging the Sisters Soujo's directly), then Team Kure (and the Refugees if they wish too. They, however, do not need too) can assist in subduing Ayase/ Luca Soujo. We want to conserve their forces and energy for Walpurgis, so keeping them in reserve should be the smart approach.
Current Prep Time Remaining: 3 Days.
Victory Conditions:
1) Madoka remains uncontracted.
2) Minimal to Zero Collateral Damage to Mitakihara.
3) All allies survive.
4) Sisters Soujo are neutralized (Gemmed, or Shattered. Gemmed preferable, though with risk.)
Fail Conditions:
1) Madoka manipulated to contract to save allies.
2) Allied soul gems are stolen or shattered.
3) Unrepairable collateral damage to Mitakihara.
4) Sisters Soujo escapes.
Target: Ayase/ Luca Soujo
Capabilities (Currently known, variables makes intel unreliable):
"Ayase" Soujo
- Avviso dell' Ustione (Burn Notice): Simple Fireball Spell in appearance, its impact against Kanna's clones would suggest temperatures above 870–980°C (1,600–1,800°F) due to the instantaneous conflagration and disintegration of their bodies. Avoid at all cost.
- Secondo Stagione (Second Season): By its appearance, it seems to be an explosion based spell. Assume similarly destructive capabilities.
"Luca" Soujo
- Caso Freddo (Cold Case): An Ice Spell capable of encasing a target. By the way Kazumi was able to free herself, it appears to not cause instantaneous freezing of the body, suggesting its purpose is to imprison its victim to make collecting easier.
- No other demonstratable abilities were shown, however, this may be because of how the Sisters Soujo decided to skip to their full capability. Due to Luca being less known of a threat, engage her with greater caution than Ayase.
Sisters Soujo (combined):
- Picchi Gemellati (Twin Peaks): Able to use their individual spell sets in perfect synchronization, taking advantage of the effects caused by severe cold meeting severe heat to generate explosions (magic.... ugh.... headdesks lol)
- Both are expert swordfighters with swift reflexes (Ayase demonstrating the capabilities of slicing rockets clean in two). Meleé Fighters be cautious (especially Sayaka)
Guaranteed Assets:
1) White Ribbon Team (Mami Tomoe, Sabrina Vee, Homura Akemi, Sayaka Miki)
2) Kure Team (Oriko and Kirika Kure)
3) Pleiades Saints Team (Michiru Kazusa, Kaoru Maki, Umika Misaki, Saki Asami, Mirai Wakaba, Satomi Usagi, Niko Kanna)
4) Fukushima Mercenary Team (Tsuruya Yuki, Akiyama Atsuko, Koizumi Sasami, Nishimura Moe, Nanami Shinobu)
Conditional/ Potential Assets:
1) Kazamino Team (Kyoko Sakura, *Yuma Chitose)
2) Animator Team (Wakahisa Hiroko, Gaikotsu Masami, Ono Megane)
3) Sendai Team (Mori Rin, Tachibana Sakura, Tanaka Tamiko, Minami Yumi. Hamasaki Akiko currently out of comission)**
4) Touhoku Team (Suzuki Rei, Suzuki Haru, Tsubaki Chouko, Umeko Yuko)**
5) Shiogama Refugees (Watanabe Noriko, Saito Akemi)
*Yuma Chitose should be held in reserve and out of the line of battle, however, her personality as shown in Oriko Magica means that its highly likely we might end up seeing her assist with Kyoko anyway, regardless of whether or not we suggest that she'd sit this battle out.
**Avoid deploying both forces at the same time.
Assessment:
In OTL (or whichever loop PMKM occurred in), The Sisters Soujo were able to be taken down by synchronized attacks between Kazumi and Kanna. Therefore, involving our conditional/ potential assets for this operation is unnecessary and could, in fact, drain vital individuals needed for Walpurgisnacht and Iowa. However, we do not know if the variables that have affected this timeline (including Feathers) have in somehow caused The Sisters Soujo to have gained additional abilities/ spells/ etc. Therefore, I recommend at least bringing in The Pleiades Saints to bolster White Ribbon in offensive capabilities. Due to how the original fight concluded, White Ribbon and the Saints should provide sufficient force necessary.
In addition, I recommend that Fukushima is to be brought in. However, their role should be defensive in nature. Have them guard the Shiogama Refugees and the Kure's in the event Soujo decides to try and use them as bait to lure us in for a rescue. After we can confirm that the Refugees and or the Kure's are no longer in danger (by virtue of us engaging the Sisters Soujo's directly), then Team Kure (and the Refugees if they wish too. They, however, do not need too) can assist in subduing Ayase/ Luca Soujo. We want to conserve their forces and energy for Walpurgis, so keeping them in reserve should be the smart approach.
Hopefully this can provide a framework for how to deal with those two.
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Have you considered the soul gems the sisters have collected? They might hold their collection hostage, or start using them as high yield explosives, like Kyoko did with Sayaka's witch.
I like the battle plan, and would agree that bringing in the Saints is a great idea. The problem I see is how are we going to find them? Are we going to wait for them to attack, or will we proactively search for them? I think that direct combat will not be a problem for our team, but the risk that we do have is if they preemptively strike and take someone's Soul Gem.
Raiseth
I Find Your Lack of Memes Disturbing
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- Russia
I think someone's trolling us at this point
It's either Sayaka or Firn
Or both, really
I mean, it would be sad if all character development Sayaka underwent was ascribed to her already being an angel of Madokami with memories of a little less than a hundred Seykuus
It would also mean her Homura-bashing in the beginning was both an act ( as she understands why Homura does what she does at this point of time ) and a genuine dislike of Homucifer
The quest also started a few months before the Rebellion, spout Firn could have retconned that in...
Somehow, I'm still not convinced.
Cae Lumis
Chief Director of Shinra Archaeology Department
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- Southern New Jersey
Ideally, and following Firn's maxim, I want us to proactively be hunting for them and making sure we minimize surprises. With this in mind, here's how I would ideally handle it (assuming the team formation would be Fukushima and the Saints along with ourselves.).
1) Give Sayaka as best of a description of Ayase/ Luca Soujo as possible (personally, I'd go one step further and create a Grief Statue of her so that we have a VISUAL representation of her for them to use as reference) and once again employ her
2) Have Mami set up a tripwire network with her Ribbons. No magical girl she doesn't recognize enters or leaves Mitakihara without her knowledge.
3) Divide The Saints into Defense and Reconnoiter roles. Satomi and Mirai are the right fit to bolster our Reconnoiter roles. Satomi should assist with Sayaka by adding onto Sayaka's intelligence network in order to cover more ground. Meanwhile, Mirai should station Bears in strategic locations throughout the city.
4) Finally, our defense. The best-laid plans are often foiled by overlooking a detail, or simply lack of intelligence. We don't know exactly in which direction or way Soujo will enter the city. We don't also have an exact time. We only know they'll arrive sometime on Monday. Thankfully, this works to our advantage because we have a good idea of where everyone will be that day. Since the Soujos are arriving on a Monday, we can count on Mami, Sayaka, and Homura being the best defense to protect Madoka and Hitomi should they target the school. However, my concern is if she'll strike sometime later in the day, such as when school is dismissed. Sayaka has training that day with Kyoko scheduled... and I'm not comfortable with splitting up our main line of defense. This also makes it hard for Sayaka, Mami, and Homura to respond quickly if Soujo targets our allies in the morning.
However, If Kyubey did direct Soujo to Mitakihara (directly or through his usual way of indirect conversation to achieve the desired result), then there is a possibility that she'll have either a good or rough idea of our weaknesses. To that end:
4-1) The key to our defensive strategy should Soujo be detected or slip through our network are the Saints and Fukushima. The Saints will assist our offense, meanwhile, Fukushima will assist us in defense. Sasami will assist Kirkia in protecting Oriko, while Moe will defend the Refugees.
4-2) If she strikes later in the day, it's imperative to keep our allies in one place where we can more easily keep an eye on their safety and ensure Soujo can't surprise us with a hostage scenario. This will also free up Mami and Homura to join the Saints and Us in our offensive.
Hopefully... this rough idea should help address those concerns.
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Controlling the Battlefield
5) In order to ensure Soujo is as predictable as we can possibly make her... I want to employ a decoy and use ourselves as bait. Specifically, see if we can make a life-size copy of ourselves (or just a very witchy-feeling statue that should feel like us until she's very close) and lure her into an ambush zone.
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If we anti-magic her, think she'd have a much harder time stealing soul gems when we engage up-close?
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DB_Explorer
Purveyor of alternate realities.
- Location
- San Diego, California
- Pronouns
- He/Him
All this talk of orphanages and Homura being mistreated gave me the following mental image for future!Madoka and Homura.
[Madoka shows up with a bunch of kids]
Homura: ....Madoka, what are you doing?
Madoka: Well I was going through the family records and doing some research when I found out how that catholic school treated you.
Homura:...Hows this lead to a gaggle of kids?
Madoka: Well I was kinda sorta a little mad so I asked the Kures for advice and Kirika suggested arson, so I burned the school down. But given that would leave all the kids without a home I adopted them all first!
Homura: ...... so your now... mom to all these kids?
Madoka: *nods* and you're their second mom!
Homura: *faints*
My mind is a silly place
[Madoka shows up with a bunch of kids]
Homura: ....Madoka, what are you doing?
Madoka: Well I was going through the family records and doing some research when I found out how that catholic school treated you.
Homura:...Hows this lead to a gaggle of kids?
Madoka: Well I was kinda sorta a little mad so I asked the Kures for advice and Kirika suggested arson, so I burned the school down. But given that would leave all the kids without a home I adopted them all first!
Homura: ...... so your now... mom to all these kids?
Madoka: *nods* and you're their second mom!
Homura: *faints*
My mind is a silly place
Cae Lumis
Chief Director of Shinra Archaeology Department
- Location
- Southern New Jersey
Did you freaking read my damn mind over the Elfen Lied project I have brewing...?
DB_Explorer
Purveyor of alternate realities.
- Location
- San Diego, California
- Pronouns
- He/Him
..... no... or at least not knowingly
- Location
- Not the asylum anymore
- Pronouns
- She/Her
We (as in Sabrina) should do this. Bring Mom along for the arson, for catharsis.
Dragontrapper
Homeless Draconis
- Location
- A Tower in the middle of nowhere
Ah - the Malfean approach.