Obviously we would never use it in the same galactic arm, at least. Accidentally-ing Earth, humanity, and Mami is not on my to-do list.

As for making one, I don't think we need two neutron stars worth of Grief, when we can just go out and find a pair of actual neutron stars. Also, to get even close to controlling that amount of mass/high energy, we would need a much larger control range; something at the point where we could just fly by populated planets and drain their grief en mass, no torture required.

Of course we would never actually do this, outside of intergalactic warfare. But hey! I'm a high science enthusiast. High-energy particle/astrophysics is what I do.
Rather than using two Neutron Stars worth of matter/grief, maybe we could just use two balls of Neutronium and some absolutely silly amounts of smashing to make a smaller one with a event horizon located somewhere within our control radius?

I dunno, I started reading about how black holes work and my brain gave up and went on vacation in 4chan.

Never heard of that fic, sorry. I got the joke though, just that my sense of humor has two settings, sarcasm and deadpan overreaction. Could be worse, I suppose, frankly given I'm english, middle class and privately educated, it's a wonder I have any sense of humor at all.
I was really just taking the piss out of the antimatter omake. It's not all that great of a fic.

Any fic which involves accidentally vaporizing all we love and hold dear isn't that great of a fic.
 
It's fine. This is the internet, where nuance comes to die. As a rule though, if I ever start going on about MegaHitlerStalin in a post, there is a non-zero chance that I might be taking the piss a little.
...Huh. At first, I was just going to comment "still want to read about the magical girls of WWII", because it would be fascinating, but then I had a bizarre train of thought.
-Magic is tied at the hip to human history
-Virtually ever major woman in history is implied to have been a Puella Magi, and major men in history are ideal candidates for fulfilling Wishes.
-By extension, pretty much every major historical socioeconomic institution will have come about as the result (direct or indirect) of one or more wishes (building it up or tearing down an opposing one)
-It's possible to use your Wish to do egregiously impossible things, like bringing back the dead.
It's likely that Hitler came to power through the heartfelt but misguided wish of a young girl in the crushing poverty of post-Versailles Germany. Further, there's a non-zero chance that he's not only still alive somewhere out in South America, but immortal.

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because i just remembered:
[X]Redshirt Army
 
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Sounds like Youjo Senki, the evil loli
That was WWI though. Also, she's more callous than evil. Also also, blame Being X.
>be God
>engage a cynical Japanese salaryman who's about to be rendered into paste by a train in a battle of wits
>lose
>get so assmad you throw him into the most dangerous situation you can think of
>get so assmad when she thrives in that situation that you start tilting the table to deliberately fuck her over
>get so assmad when she continues to thrive that you renege on the deal and just start unilaterally brainwashing her

As meguca, though, I think Tanya Von Degurechaff and Homura would get along great. She'd freak out Mami and make Sayaka chafe, though.
 
THE POWER OF HOPE AND LOVE
No, going to our Moms and getting them to solve our problems does not make for a good story. :p
Unless you are suggesting deliberately torturing meguca so we can farm the grief off of them, and doing that on a society-wide level for a few millenia, just to provide the feedstock, we can't do it.
Keep in mind that the mass of any given volume of Grief is whatever we say it is. We just haven't really messed with any dangerous densities, yet.
It's likely that Hitler came to power through the heartfelt but misguided wish of a young girl in the crushing poverty of post-Versailles Germany. Further, there's a non-zero chance that he's not only still alive somewhere out in South America, but immortal.
And then he encountered Type Mercury and gets ganked, because screw you, it operates on alien laws of physics. :V
 
No, going to our Moms and getting them to solve our problems does not make for a good story. :p
So if Madoka runs on HOPE, and Homura runs on LOVE, can we say then that Sayaka runs on JUSTICE? What about us and Mami? Which one of us is FRIENDSHIP, and who's the poor sap stuck with the power of DEPENDENCY?

Is Kyouko run on the power of FOOD? Yuma on CUTE? What does that leave Nagisa? CHEESE? CAKE? CHEESECAKE?

What sort of hero has the balls to run up to the villain of the week and scream, "VILLAINS LIKE YOU SIMPLY CANNOT UNDERSTAND THE POWER... OF CHEESECAKE!"

Nagi a badass tho. Is Kazumi run on the Power of DAT ASS?
 
That was WWI though. Also, she's more callous than evil. Also also, blame Being X.
>be God
>engage a cynical Japanese salaryman who's about to be rendered into paste by a train in a battle of wits
>lose
>get so assmad you throw him into the most dangerous situation you can think of
>get so assmad when she thrives in that situation that you start tilting the table to deliberately fuck her over
>get so assmad when she continues to thrive that you renege on the deal and just start unilaterally brainwashing her

As meguca, though, I think Tanya Von Degurechaff and Homura would get along great. She'd freak out Mami and make Sayaka chafe, though.
True, but WW2 basically happened a decade earlier, sooo.
On a side note, there was an idle discussion on how a 'Brina landing in Youjo Senki would go, and how to avoid several countries gunning for them. I didn't get very far.
 
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I wrote the fic suggesting we never make the Quasar Laser, remember?

We couldn't ever fire it because it would, at the least, destroy our sector of the galaxy, which inconveniently includes both Earth and Mami, both of which we would, I assume, prefer to be out of the way of yottawatts of radiation.

Building it would also be a bit of a hassle.

That's thinking way too small. Just force our grief to create a self-perpetuating energy valley compared to conventional physics and watch the false vacuum collapse envelop the entire universe at c. We can chill in our Barrier while it happens.
 
[jk] Show those bunnycats what they should really be afraid of, i.e. us
-[jk] Engineer a vacuum metastability event

:V
 
What's a RKKV?
I'd like to know what crazy ass thibg you guys are suggesting Sabrina should do.


And on that speed of light question thing...
Can Sabrina make an electron sized Grief sphere and fire it super fast?
 
What's a RKKV?
I'd like to know what crazy ass thibg you guys are suggesting Sabrina should do.


And on that speed of light question thing...
Can Sabrina make an electron sized Grief sphere and fire it super fast?
An RKKV is a Relativistic Kinetic Kill Vehicle.

In other words, it's One, At Sufficient Velocity, except that the velocity is roughly comparable to the speed of light.
 
We can probably eventually accelerate something to relativistic speeds through raw Griefbending (which is another term that my phone's autocomplete thinks is a real word thanks to this thread). Griefhax magic can probably be used for FTL, as well as the inertial dampers and deflector screens needed to make it safe, much like how we've used it simulate other scifi devices in the past.
 
Yeah, we'll need viable FTL if we ever want to help alien magical girls, or take the fight the Incubators, or expand our empire.

Likely, though, those things that are years, or even decades, away In-universe. First, we got to survive Walpurgisnacht, and Feathers, and the inevitable bomb dropping, and....
 
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As meguca, though, I think Tanya Von Degurechaff and Homura would get along great. She'd freak out Mami and make Sayaka chafe, though.
Only superficially - Homura is completely irrational in Tanyas eyes in that she only cares about Madoka. Though she'd approve of Homuras methodology.

Tanya would get along better with Koko.
And she'd likely be perfectly able to get along with Mami, so long as they don't start discussing griefonomics. Though Sayaka is probably a lost cause. Risk is she'd encourage bringing out the worst in Mami, though.
 
Highway 17 pt. 3
You grin at Homura. It's...

You're not sure if it's actually progress, to be fair. Homura probably does feel safer with Oriko out of the city, and that's probably the biggest reason that she even considered it. You can't blame her, really, even if you can pick holes in her logic: but a trauma of Oriko killing Madoka just when she'd thought all was lost?

You can understand why Homura would be happy to have Oriko out of Mitakihara, even if only for a short time.

Her eyes are still fixed on you, expectant.

"I... Yeah," you say. "I will. Thank you, Homura."

Her eyes flick away, hand rising to her hair with fingers outstretched to hook through the rippling, lustro-

You avert your eyes in time, but you do catch the quiet, "Don't thank me."

"No, I mean it," you say. You're not completely happy to not have Homura come along. You'd considered doing it all in timestop, but...

Homura doesn't like people she doesn't trust in timestop. It's her private world, her final retreat, and you can't exactly begrudge her that. She's willing to lend you its use, and you're definitely grateful for that trust. Still, you can't deny she was practically climbing the walls that time with Oriko and Kirika. You can imagine she might be a bit easier on people who haven't stomped on her personal traumas, but...

If she says she'd rather stay -and you did ask- then she'd rather stay. You've resolved to respect the wishes of your friends, so here you are.

Mami squeezes your hand slightly. "We'll trust you to hold Mitakihara while we're gone, Homura," she says, with a firm nod.

"Speaking of, uh, we do have the Shiogama girls due to arrive tomorrow," you note, smiling at Mami. "Nadia said something about 10AM, so... if we're still in Asunaro, you might have to receive them, Homura. Um..."

"I can handle it," Homura says, nodding.

"Maybe get Madoka's or Hitomi's help, if necessary," you say. "Help us apologise, yeah?"

Homura nods again.

"Maybe I should stay back to help there..." Sayaka says, snickering. "Homura, no offense, but you don't really do the people thing, do you?"

"I can do it." Homura shrugs.

"If you want to stay back, Sayaka, you can," you note. "I don't- look, I didn't want to drag you out of bed in the middle of the night and throw you into all this thisness, but..."

"Are you kidding?" Sayaka says with a bright grin. "I'm- no one's hurt yet, right?"

"Niko was knocked out, but apart from that, not really?" you say.

"Good!" Sayaka says. "I'm kind of excited. Go out, kick the bad guy's asses along with everyone."

You bite back a groan. Still recklessly enthusiastic... and Asunaro has enough bullshit that you'll be keeping an eye on her. Right. Something to keep track of.

"OK, OK," you say, pressing a hand to your forehead. "I was gonna ask if you're sure, because there's no shame in backing down, but right. And you're sure you can work with Oriko and Kirika?"

Sayaka's lips twist into a slight scowl. "I can work with them," she says.

"You sure?" you say, holding her eyes and leaning forward. "There's a lot of bullshit that could happen, here, and we need to be able to work together. I'm not going to ask you to forgive them, I suppose, but we'll all be fighting together."

"I'm sure," Sayaka says with a huff.

"Alright. I'll hold you to it, then," you say. "I... OK, Homura, can I impose on your timestop a little more? I wanna just talk out what I think I know, and then... you could bring Sayaka to the rooftop, so we can hide timestop from the Pleiades?"

"That's fine," Homura says with a nod. She sits back on the sofa.

"Alright, then," you say, clasping your hands as you assemble your thoughts. "Right. So. I... know things, right?"

"Sometimes," Mami says with a teasing smile.

You shoot her a betrayed look. She giggles, and cuddles closer.

"OK, so, interruptions aside, Sayaka, here's what you need to know," you say. "Well, prefacing this with the fact that my knowledge about Asunaro can and has proven unreliable, and a disclaimer that this doesn't go beyond the bounds of Homura's timestop and the four of us, yeah?"

Sayaka nods impatiently. "Yeah?"

"Right. So, we have three potential possible enemies," you say. "Kanna Hijiri, the Soujos, and Yuuri..." You go over the basics of what you know, their powers and their motivations. Which, ultimately...

"That's stupid," Sayaka says.

"Right you are!" you say, pointing a finger at her. "It is! On the other hand, my knowledge has proven unreliable about them, and I don't know why."

"If Kanna Niko was attacked, does she know who attacked her?" Homura asks. "The magic used?"

"She said that she didn't notice anything," Mami says, frowning. "Intangible and contactless, in her words."

"And her lab was ransacked," you add. "So I presume any obvious traces would have been covered up... at least I hope they have, and she didn't just forget to mention it or something."

"Intangible and contactless..." Sayaka frowns. "That doesn't really seem to fit any of the powers except Hijiri?"

"Who happens to be the one with the prime motive to attack Niko," you agree.

"It's a fit because her powers are so nebulous," Mami says with a frown.

"Asuka Yuuri has medicine related powers," Homura says, a touch of edge underlying her usual flat monotone. "Depending on the specifics, she could have shut down Niko's body at a distance."

"Or fill the air with some kind of gas or drug," Mami says, tapping her chin.

"But the original Yuuri has no reason to attack the Pleiades," you say. "And strictly speaking, Hijiri shouldn't have her motive now."

"Barring enemy action?" Sayaka says.

"Yep," you say. "Same goes for the Soujos."

"Or someone new," Mami concludes with a nod.

"Or that," you agree.

"How likely is that?" Sayaka asks.

"I have no idea," you admit. Conversation lapses with that cheerful thought, leaving you all alone with thoughts and the yawning silence. You take the opportunity to cuddle Mami, which she definitely seems to appreciate, her hand sliding up your back to toy with a few strands of your hair.

"I suppose that's it, then?" Sayaka asks.

"Yeah, if you're feeling ready," you say. "Homura-"

"Roof," your friend says, nodding sharply and standing.

Sayaka bounces to her feet, stretching. "Hell yeah."

"Mami?" you prompt, smiling.

"I'm with you," she says simply.

"Then..." you say, gesturing at the ribbon. Mami smiles, rolling her wris-

-t. Sayaka isn't there any more, the distant noise of Mitakihara rolling over you. The city doesn't sleep, even this late at night, or perhaps this early in the morning. Mami's a warm, comforting presence at your side, and you revel in it for a moment before standing.

"Kazumi?" you call. "Umika, Kaoru?"

"We're here!" Kazumi says, scrambling out of the guest room with a backpack looped over one shoulder. Even now, with tension humming in your veins, you can't help the detached observation that she hadn't come in with that bag.

Heh.

"Alright," you say, nodding at Kazumi. "We're going now - Sayaka's gonna meet us on the roof, and, mm... provided they're in, I'll be picking up two more allies."

"Right, let's get going," Kaoru says, clenching her fists.

"Yep," you say, and lead the way out of the apartment. Mami swings by the kitchen to snag some simple breakfast for everyone, and locks the door behind you as you head up for the roof. Your mind reaches out ahead of you as you scale the steps two at a time, an effort of will gathering Grief in sweeping whirls that whip across the roof to melt into a rather larger Mobile Oppression Fortress than you usually build. You can't help the little snicker at the way Sayaka jumps at the motion.

"Oriko, Kirika?" Another part of your mind stretches across the distance.

"... Sabrina?" Kirika responds after a moment.

"Hey, Kirika," you say. "Is Oriko there? Also, why are you awake?"

"Shitposting waits for no one," Kirika says. "Oriko's asleep. Why are you awake?"

"Got a crisis on our hands," you say. "How do you feel about a trip out of the city? You, Oriko, Mami, Sayaka, and some friends from out of town?"

"Now?" Kirika says.

"Crisis," you reiterate. "Can you wake Oriko?"

"Uhh, one sec," Kirika says.

By the time Oriko responds, you've already hit the roof, waving at Sayaka. The bleunette looks entirely too alert, in that bright, sharp-edged way.

"Good morning, Sabrina," Oriko says, mental voice slurred by sleep. "I understand we have a crisis?"

"Asunaro," you say succinctly. "Before your visions, apparently. I visited, and I left them a Clear Seed. Niko's lab has been broken into and the Seed stolen."

There's a long pause, during which time you toss Sayaka a can of coffee and mount your flying disc. Chairs and tables rise out of the substrate, enough for all of you, and enough room for you and Mami to start assembling sandwiches as you lift off.

"I see," Oriko says finally. She probably does, too.

"We're going over right now," you say. "Would you like to come along? You and Kirika?"

"My powers are gone," Oriko points out.

"I know," you say. "I- honestly? You know the kind of bullshit we might be facing, but between myself, Mami, Sayaka, and all of the Pleiades, we probably have enough firepower to level the city. I'm inviting you because you've got to be going stir crazy, locked up in there."

"And besides!" Kirika chirps. "You do remember that your powers aren't everything, don't you, Oriko?"

"Yes, dear," Oriko says. "I remember, but this is a combat scenario."

"I'll protect you!" Kirika says. "'sides, you've still got your balls, right?"

"Phrasing," Oriko says. "I do indeed still have them available. I'm not defenseless, but I bring less to the table."

"Oriko," Kirika says. You recognise that tone, and you lean back in your seat as you snack on a sandwich, watching the early morning traffic surge through the streets far beneath you. "Sabrina's trying to do something nice for you."

Oriko sighs. You know defeat when you hear it - though you're pretty sure Oriko wanted to be talked into it, in any case. She can't enjoy being trapped in the house, either. "Very well. I assume you're on your way over?"

"Almost there," you say. "We've got breakfast, too! Simple stuff, but hey, we were in a rush. Bring a thermos of tea?"

"Can do!" Kirika says, and you can hear the excitement in her voice.

You're already descending towards the Kure mansion as you turn to the Asunaro girls, spinning yours and Mami's chairs around. "So I'll go over this quickly, and in brief - Oriko and Kirika were... mm, criminals, shall we say. They're not bad people. Oriko's power is precognition, and she saw a future that none of us wants to come to pass."

"Precognition?" Umika asks, eyebrows going up above the line of her glasses. "That's..."

"Unheard of, yes," you say, smiling in amusement. "It drove her to do things that were unacceptable." Your smile fades, and you dart a look at Sayaka. Her face is set, determinedly but only partially succeeding in suppressing her anger. "We fought. Mami, Homura, and I won, and they've been under house arrest ever since."

"But you're bringing them along?" Kaoru asks.

"Yes," you say. "They're not bad people. Oriko was misguided, yes, absolutely. She did some awful things, yes, absolutely. But I believe in them. I believe they want to do better, so... I suppose what I'm saying is that I vouch for them."

"Then that's fine. We believe you, Sabrina!" Kazumi says, nodding. "They live here?"

'Here' is the Mikuni mansion. You're landing in the backyard, and you can feel Oriko and Kirika heading out already.

"Yup," you say. "And that's them."

"Hey!" Kirika says, waving enthusiastically as she pulls the glass door open. Oriko follows with considerably more dignity than Kirika, who bounds up to your Grief platform and offers Oriko a hand.

The seer accepts it with quiet dignity, the smooth nub that is the stump of her other wrist held loosely by her side.

Voting opens
[] Head to Asunaro
- [] Heal Oriko fully on the way
- [] Discuss plans
-- [] In detail?
[] What do you do on arrival?
- [] Investigate Niko's lab
- [] Ask Niko...
[] Write-in (word count limit: 200 words)


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Here we go.
 
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"Oriko," Kirika says. You recognise that tone, and you lean back in your seat as you snack on a sandwich, watching the early morning traffic surge through the streets far beneath you. "Sabrina's trying to do something nice for you."

Oriko sighs. You know defeat when you hear it - though you're pretty sure Oriko wanted to be talked into it, in any case. She can't enjoy being trapped in the house, either. "Very well. I assume you're on your way over?"
Kirika continue to be Best Buddy :D
 
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