Woo! 6000 pages!

Thank you to everyone here for helping to make PMAS what it is, especially @Firnagzen for continuing to tell Sabrina's story.

I've put something together to commemorate the occasion - an upgrade of sorts to the existing day planner. Namely, a wiki!

www.adfligosystema.com

Editing access will be made available to anyone who asks me for it.

My thanks to everyone who has and continues to help me maintain the day planner, especially @Julian Bradshaw for writing most of the original calendar entries, and @Onmur for helping expand the number of things tracked.

Special thanks to @Vebyast and @Godwinson for giving me advice while setting up the website.
 
Happy 6,000 pages, @Firnagzen!
Adhoc vote count started by Godwinson on Mar 12, 2019 at 7:29 AM, finished with 150010 posts and 15 votes.

  • [X] Pause flight, turn windows opaque. It's not a privacy field, but it's the next best thing.
    [X] Intent: Establish that this topic is kept secret to protect Homura from emotional damage, and involves other secrets too.
    [X] Tone: Frustrated with your inability to act and fix things, sympathetic to Sayaka's right to ask (it's her best friend who is the target of this, after all), and sombre empathy for Homura's reasons for keeping quiet.
    [X] "Goddess, I would love to be able to talk about it, but it would be a breach of Homura's trust, and it's hard enough for her to be able to trust me -- trust anyone -- as it is. She's been burned by opening up to people before, and been called a liar and a traitor because of it. Even more, talking about this would get into some really painful, traumatic stuff for Homura, so I don't feel right trying to pressure her into talking about it. I've been talking to her about all of it, trying to help, but there's only so much that talking can do when dealing with years of trauma."
    -[X] "It would also mean getting into that other secret, the one that's bad enough that if Chiyoda is using memory magic toward it... I don't approve, but I can understand someone using it on enemies, allies, and friends."
    [X] Basically everything of Homura's past is a no-go, although you wish it wasn't.
    -[X] You've seen the same things she has. They make sense, given context... You can't tell her what to think, but this isn't something you'd worry about.
    [X] On a separate note... You can understand Chiyoda's actions, given certain assumptions. Enough that you're not massively upset with her.
    [x] Answer her. That's a good part of it. Yes.
    [x] Why? The short answer is Homura cares for Madoka very much and is doing the best she can to keep her safe.
    [x] The long answer is complicated and involves things I can't tell you and aren't mine to tell. I was hoping one day she'd tell you herself.
    [x] Homura has her reasons. They are good ones and they'll make complete sense to you once you have the context but only then.
    [x] Sayaka? Be patient with her okay? Things are hard for her.
    [X] It's one of those things that's not mine to tell.
    [X] I'd tell you to ask Homura about it, but she's probably not ready. It's difficult for her to talk about it even with me, but I am watching out for Homura, and Madoka too.
    [X] Do let me know if you think Homura's behavior is troubling Madoka, you know her better than I do.
    [X] Sayaka did notice
    -[X] How does she think Madoka feels about that?
    -[X] Is she aware what sort of answer she is asking for?
    -[X] Would she leave it to us to schedule a time for her to ask Homura?
    -[X] We want to help them during a complicated conversation that might result.
    -[X] We can't speak for Homura, but we can vouch for her.
    --[X] By the Goddess.
    [X] Consider Chinese IRC contact with Sayaka
    [X] Enchant some Grief
    [X] Your mostly right?
    -[X] Homura would fret terribly and be unhappy yes, and that's not far from my mind...
    -[X] But it also IS really dangerous. You said so yourself "casually superhuman".
    -[X] So what exactly have you noticed?
    -[X] Because there is honestly too much it could be.
    [x] Homura would murder you if she ever heard you telling anyone about her past, so you're afraid you can't tell Sayaka anything other than that the situation is as close to being under control as it's possible for anything related to this colossal clusterfuck to be. Her reasons are as good as anyone's, though, you suppose, so Sayaka should just keep in mind that everyone you're willing to put up with is a Good Person and that everything should make sense eventually.
 
Holy hell, six thousand pages. Thank you so much, everyone, for sticking with me on the journey! :D
To commemorate 6000 pages of brain damage, here's some pixel Sabrinas I made last night:


Ooooh. Very nice!
Woo! 6000 pages!

Thank you to everyone here for helping to make PMAS what it is, especially @Firnagzen for continuing to tell Sabrina's story.

I've put something together to commemorate the occasion - an upgrade of sorts to the existing day planner. Namely, a wiki!

www.adfligosystema.com

Editing access will be made available to anyone who asks me for it.

My thanks to everyone who has and continues to help me maintain the day planner, especially @Julian Bradshaw for writing most of the original calendar entries, and @Onmur for helping expand the number of things tracked.

Special thanks to @Vebyast and @Godwinson for giving me advice while setting up the website.
Oh, this is fantastic. Thank you for the effort, guys!
 
Woo! 6000 pages!

Thank you to everyone here for helping to make PMAS what it is, especially @Firnagzen for continuing to tell Sabrina's story.

I've put something together to commemorate the occasion - an upgrade of sorts to the existing day planner. Namely, a wiki!

www.adfligosystema.com

Editing access will be made available to anyone who asks me for it.

My thanks to everyone who has and continues to help me maintain the day planner, especially @Julian Bradshaw for writing most of the original calendar entries, and @Onmur for helping expand the number of things tracked.

Special thanks to @Vebyast and @Godwinson for giving me advice while setting up the website.
Any way you could do the needed DNS stuff to make it so that the URL you specified is the URL that gets displayed in the address bar after the page loads, rather than just a redirect to the Google Sites URL?
 
Any way you could do the needed DNS stuff to make it so that the URL you specified is the URL that gets displayed in the address bar after the page loads, rather than just a redirect to the Google Sites URL?

IIRC Google sites has a way to do that?

Also wooo! 6000 pages!

I'll probably do something to celebrate kdkdjdk
Adhoc vote count started by Norad the Borad on Mar 15, 2019 at 12:53 AM, finished with 150065 posts and 24 votes.

  • [x] Answer her. That's a good part of it. Yes.
    [x] Why? The short answer is Homura cares for Madoka very much and is doing the best she can to keep her safe.
    [x] The long answer is complicated and involves things I can't tell you and aren't mine to tell. I was hoping one day she'd tell you herself.
    [x] Homura has her reasons. They are good ones and they'll make complete sense to you once you have the context but only then.
    [x] Sayaka? Be patient with her okay? Things are hard for her.
    [X] Pause flight, turn windows opaque. It's not a privacy field, but it's the next best thing.
    [X] Intent: Establish that this topic is kept secret to protect Homura from emotional damage, and involves other secrets too.
    [X] Tone: Frustrated with your inability to act and fix things, sympathetic to Sayaka's right to ask (it's her best friend who is the target of this, after all), and sombre empathy for Homura's reasons for keeping quiet.
    [X] "Goddess, I would love to be able to talk about it, but it would be a breach of Homura's trust, and it's hard enough for her to be able to trust me -- trust anyone -- as it is. She's been burned by opening up to people before, and been called a liar and a traitor because of it. Even more, talking about this would get into some really painful, traumatic stuff for Homura, so I don't feel right trying to pressure her into talking about it. I've been talking to her about all of it, trying to help, but there's only so much that talking can do when dealing with years of trauma."
    -[X] "It would also mean getting into that other secret, the one that's bad enough that if Chiyoda is using memory magic toward it... I don't approve, but I can understand someone using it on enemies, allies, and friends."
    [X] You can't give her a direct response to that. But.
    [X] Sayaka has met a fair number of magical girls at this point, decent and not. She's heard you defend people like Oriko and offer benefit of doubt to others.
    -[X] Akemi Homura is not the type of person whose actions require defending or benefit of doubt. Her moral fiber is not different from, say, Mami's -- only her concerns and experiences.
    --[X] You can't make much comment on those for a variety of reasons, not least of which that you more or less promised her that you wouldn't. You can correct Sayaka's earlier assumption: Ahab was a madman motivated by revenge. Homura fights monsters to protect people who cannot or will not protect themselves.
    [X] On a separate note... You can understand Chiyoda's actions, given certain assumptions. Enough that you're not massively upset with her.
    [X] It's one of those things that's not mine to tell.
    [X] I'd tell you to ask Homura about it, but she's probably not ready. It's difficult for her to talk about it even with me, but I am watching out for Homura, and Madoka too.
    [X] Do let me know if you think Homura's behavior is troubling Madoka, you know her better than I do.
    [X] Sayaka did notice
    -[X] How does she think Madoka feels about that?
    -[X] Is she aware what sort of answer she is asking for?
    -[X] Would she leave it to us to schedule a time for her to ask Homura?
    -[X] We want to help them during a complicated conversation that might result.
    -[X] We can't speak for Homura, but we can vouch for her.
    --[X] By the Goddess.
    [X] Consider Chinese IRC contact with Sayaka
    [X] Enchant some Grief
    [x] Homura would murder you if she ever heard you telling anyone about her past, so you're afraid you can't tell Sayaka anything other than that the situation is as close to being under control as it's possible for anything related to this colossal clusterfuck to be. Her reasons are as good as anyone's, though, you suppose, so Sayaka should just keep in mind that everyone you're willing to put up with is a Good Person and that everything should make sense eventually.
    [X] Answer
    - [X] Goddess, I wish I could talk about it. But it isn't my story to tell. Homura, well, you know how private she is about herself. Talking to you about any of that, revealing anything, no matter how little... It would be a breach of her trust. I'm sorry. All I can say is she has her reasons for the things she does, how she acts, everything. Looking out for Madoka, well, she has reasons for that too. I hope she'll be able to tell you them herself, eventually. {Vaguely This, I'll Let The Thread Threadpilot. Or Sabrina. Or Firn.}
    [X] If there's time left before school ends, go to a library and contact the Japanese meguca IRC. Standard greeting protocols.
    -[X] Sayaka's clone can join the important outreach/shitposting if she wants.
 
On the one hand, we absolutely do need to tell Sayaka to stay away from the entire thing because if she gets involved she will fuck everything up. We need to give her a good reason to believe that, because right now she is getting worried about Madoka's well-being too, and we have already seen how bad things go when we don't communicate with people.

On the other hand, you're absolutely right that Homura is so traumatized that she'll end the world if we tell anyone how traumatized she is. We can't even hint at it. We just got done going over Sayaka being all perceptive and insightful about politics and shit. She's too damn smart.

I don't agree with literally any of this. My basic core complaint is that the standing vote constitutes being a bad friend to Homura and the very thought is... No.

This isn't ending the world. If Sayaka passes this info to Madoka we are stuck running damage control with Homura, which will look like this:

You turn to face your friend. "I'm sorry about that slip, Homura," you say, meeting her eyes. "I really am."

Her jaw tightens, eyes squeezing shut. "I don't want Madoka to know," she grinds out between gritted teeth. "I don't want her anywhere near being a magical girl."

"I know, Homura," you whisper. "I know, I get it, and I'm right there with you. I'm sorry. I slipped up."

"You did," Homura says, clinical and harsh.

"And I'-" you whisper fervently. "I want to beat Walpurgisnacht too, and I want to keep Madoka -to keep everyone- safe. You know that."

Homura sighs, shoulders sagging. "Do better, Sabrina." She hesitates for a long second, before adding in a voice that's barely audible, "Please."

"I promise, Homura," you say. "I promise I'll fix things. That's what I'm here for, right?"

Homura sighs again, looking away and very, very tired. "Do better."

"I will," you say. "I- I don't think Madoka's that upset, just... shaken, a bit. Sayaka talked to her, and I think we're fine."

Only probably worse.

We. TOLD HER. That we. Would. Do. Better.

Do you understand what I'm saying here? This isn't about an Armageddon either way. It's about not hurting Homura.
 
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