Puella Magi Adfligo Systema
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- Location
- Earth, probably.
- Pronouns
- None/Any
[x] Nadia
- [x] Vote in abeyance
[x] Mami
- [x] Ask Mami to examine the flask
- [x] Talk to her about the evening
[x] Relax for the evening
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Lord Chungus
God of Nutella
- Location
- The Hague (it’s where all the cool people are)
Looking good, looking good. Homura still isn't a fan of Oriko's, to no one's surprise, but with
[ ] Ask Mami to examine the flask
-- [ ] Talk to her about the evening
[ ] Nadia
-[ ] Don't blame her. Make it clear you're not doing so.
--[ ] Explain Rionna's apparent motivation and actions. Let her know Rionna is currently detained.
--[ ] Discuss how you might want to manage the possible PR issues of this.
--[ ] Does Nadia know any therapists or therapy magical girls?
--[ ] Are there any other magical girls who Nadia might have underestimated, or who might be more evil than previously appeared?
[ ] Relax for the evening.
--[ ] Hugs for the Hug Gods.
[ ] Something else to cover?
--[ ] Thank her once more for being the best.
--[ ] Request that if a similar situation comes up, with an evil/hostile magical girl, she makes sure we don't act stupid. We value her advice, and we know we can get a bit wierd, so she shouldn't hesitate to mention if we're being dummies. It helped tremendously back there, and it will help in the future.
I'm not as sure about the last line, as we sort of just said that, but I think it's something we really need to hammer home. Worst case scenario, she says that we're being silly and she was already going to do that, which is good because saying that we're being silly is exactly what we're telling her to do.
Thoughts?
it looks like she's warming up to Kirika's Best Buddy-ness, at least a bit. She can't think Kirika's that bad, if she'd comfortable comparing Brina to Buddy. Now, to try my hand at making a vote.
[ ] Ask Mami to examine the flask
-- [ ] Talk to her about the evening
[ ] Nadia
-[ ] Don't blame her. Make it clear you're not doing so.
--[ ] Explain Rionna's apparent motivation and actions. Let her know Rionna is currently detained.
--[ ] Discuss how you might want to manage the possible PR issues of this.
--[ ] Does Nadia know any therapists or therapy magical girls?
--[ ] Are there any other magical girls who Nadia might have underestimated, or who might be more evil than previously appeared?
[ ] Relax for the evening.
--[ ] Hugs for the Hug Gods.
[ ] Something else to cover?
--[ ] Thank her once more for being the best.
--[ ] Request that if a similar situation comes up, with an evil/hostile magical girl, she makes sure we don't act stupid. We value her advice, and we know we can get a bit wierd, so she shouldn't hesitate to mention if we're being dummies. It helped tremendously back there, and it will help in the future.
I'm not as sure about the last line, as we sort of just said that, but I think it's something we really need to hammer home. Worst case scenario, she says that we're being silly and she was already going to do that, which is good because saying that we're being silly is exactly what we're telling her to do.
Thoughts?
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Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
Don't feel like voting.
Now that it's time, we should remember a lot of things and decide what things are getting done and which aren't.
Before the Shiogama girls arrived, we were going go:
- Call Best Little Sister Nagisa to talk, we haven't seen nor talked with her in a while.
- Make Spekcled Enchantments for enhanced perception, defense, and general utility.
Other than that:
- Niko asked us to call her after we met Riona.
I think pretty much everything else either got done or postponed, so hopefully Sabrina and Mami can have a relaxing evening/night.
BTW, nice to see Kyouko:
Now that it's time, we should remember a lot of things and decide what things are getting done and which aren't.
Before the Shiogama girls arrived, we were going go:
- Call Best Little Sister Nagisa to talk, we haven't seen nor talked with her in a while.
- Make Spekcled Enchantments for enhanced perception, defense, and general utility.
Other than that:
- Niko asked us to call her after we met Riona.
I think pretty much everything else either got done or postponed, so hopefully Sabrina and Mami can have a relaxing evening/night.
BTW, nice to see Kyouko:
Where's her pride gone?
Took Sayaka way too long.
- Location
- The state of Paranoia
Welp. Iowa group foreshadowing. And others, probably.
I really want to learn more about she-who-must-not-be-named though. It doesn't look like we'll get to interrogate her, so maybe Firn could drop the notes for her on us? Or is that just not something Firn would do, giving us information we haven't earned?
Regardless, I'll vote for whatever plan I think tries to get the most information about her, like examining that flask. I hope that Sayaka decides to learn the witchbomb at some point so she can use the soul power. Fixing Oriko and figuring out what's up with our soul would be nice. Probably a liiiiiitle early to be thinking about that though.
If anyone thinks their plan has the most in depth look into she-who-must-not-be-named, just tag me and I'll take a look (and vote for it if I agree that it looks like it will get the most information about her).
Spectral Waltz
Scatterbrained Writer
- Location
- Walking the Endless Corridors
Too business, we need some non business, or at least as little business as possible. We can handle stuff like the call to Nadia in the morning.
/is pat.
Kirika is putting her lessons to good use (lessong that Oriko isn't always right)
The highlight of the update: Homura can't stand to agree with Oriko!
Spectral Waltz
Scatterbrained Writer
- Location
- Walking the Endless Corridors
[x] Mami
-[x] Ask Mami to examine the flask
-[x] Call Niko, she did ask you to after you met Rionna.
[x] Relax for the evening
-[x] You should call Nagisa, you haven't spoken to her in a while.
-[x] More Mami enchantment practice, work on speckled.
-[x] Just... Relax and try to destress, you can deal with Nadia and everything else tomorrow.
-[x] Ask Mami to examine the flask
-[x] Call Niko, she did ask you to after you met Rionna.
[x] Relax for the evening
-[x] You should call Nagisa, you haven't spoken to her in a while.
-[x] More Mami enchantment practice, work on speckled.
-[x] Just... Relax and try to destress, you can deal with Nadia and everything else tomorrow.
- Location
- Not the asylum anymore
- Pronouns
- She/Her
So, is everyone's least favorite soulguca Voldemort now? I mean, she has at least one horcrux.
Granted, we ourselves and almost everyone we know also have horcruxes.
ADeshantis
King on the Chromium Throne
- Location
- United states
Who are we not naming? Rionna?
- Location
- The state of Paranoia
I like examining the flask.
There is ONLY ONE Hug God however.
Perhaps adding some SCIENCE would help us relax? A lie detector would be really nice to have. I'm not sure if we need soul/mind protection for ourselves anymore, since that just washed over us, but it would still be useful to have enchantments of it for our allies, and it couldn't hurt for us either.
Yes, her.
For now
[X] Spectral Waltz
Has both the flask and SCIENCE.
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- Location
- Illinois
So... We're on our way home but haven't dealt with Nadia convo...
Eh.
Eeeeeeeeeh.
Hm.
*Eyes big red button with a Mami stamped on it*
...
One more edit cycle. Shopping trip with Homura tomorrow, we're doing this now.
The thing about the flask -- if it's been delayed this long it's unimportant. That's how these things work. Firn doesn't delay important stuff without telling us it is, in fact, important
Eh.
Eeeeeeeeeh.
Hm.
*Eyes big red button with a Mami stamped on it*
...
One more edit cycle. Shopping trip with Homura tomorrow, we're doing this now.
The thing about the flask -- if it's been delayed this long it's unimportant. That's how these things work. Firn doesn't delay important stuff without telling us it is, in fact, important
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Lord Chungus
God of Nutella
- Location
- The Hague (it’s where all the cool people are)
Damn it SV, why can't I rate a post Insightful and Hugs? This is why we can't have nice things
Also wow, I completely forgot that Nagisa existed. Not that I forgot we were supposed to call her, I just actually forgot she existed. My Goldfish Brain in ever evolving. Yeah, I'll add Nagisa to the vote.
I think we can put off these two, if only for the night. Enchantment can be done when we aren't mentally exhausted, and Niko will probably understand if we wait until tomorrow to call her. Plus, Mami might be worried that we're not in the best state of mind to be calling Niko and Doing Things, and the thread's exhausted enough that I can see her point. Rest is good, for mind and spirit.
Vote edited to include Nagisa, and trim up the Nadia bit.
I get where you're coming from, but I think Nadia should be addressed soon; she may worry, among other things, and we've got a bunch of other stuff put off until the morning.
Edited vote:
[x] Ask Mami to examine the flask
-- [x] Talk to her about the evening
[x] Nadia
--[x] Vote in abeyance, plus:
--[x] Try to keep it short. You've had a long day.
--[x]
--[x] Are there any other magical girls who Nadia might have underestimated, or who might be more evil than previously appeared?
[x] Relax for the evening.
[x] Something else to cover?
--[x] Call Nagisa. How's she doing? Be Silly Brina. Relax
--[x] Thank Mami once more for being the best.
--[x] Request that if a similar situation comes up, with an evil/hostile magical girl, she makes sure we don't act stupid. We value her advice, and we know we can get a bit wierd, so she shouldn't hesitate to mention if we're being dummies. It helped back there, and it will help in the future.
I was kind of considering keeping the talk with Nadia short: just update her today, and then have the actual Talk with her tomorrow, but I don't really think that spreading the talks out like that would work too well. Also, it would be kind of hard to do without seeming really weird, and the idea sounds kind of dumb now but I'll throw it out anyway.
Say, where is Nadia, geographically? If she's a few time-zones away, we may be calling her at inopportune times.
gasps in magic
Raiseth
I Find Your Lack of Memes Disturbing
- Location
- Russia
Damn it SV, why can't I rate a post Insightful and Hugs? This is why we can't have nice things
It's called Meow rating and you have to pay for the privilege.
Lord Chungus
God of Nutella
- Location
- The Hague (it’s where all the cool people are)
Kai, pleeeeeease! I does is want to know!
And more pragmatically, the sooner you tell us we have more time to critique/find things wrong with whatever idea you have. I don't want to go with your idea because it's brilliant, then wake up a few mornings later in a cold sweat because I just realized that there was something wrong with it.
At this point either make your vote about the "thing" you wanted to do or tell us what's the idea without a vote, because the next update will probably get Sabrina to her early night.
You really seem to like keeping people in suspense, huh.
So, what's this big thing? We finally having Sabrina tell Mami she loves her or something?
- Location
- Illinois
Everyone here is aware that Sabrina values Mami a shitton. The thread is deeply attached to her, as is Sabrina as a character. We choose to spend time with her.
In the end, all of Mami's issues circle around her loneliness and her fear of loneliness. Perceived inadequacies have grown, and continue to grow and froth amongst them: that she has never done enough for us, that she's "broken," that sort of thing.
At the end of the day, much of the understanding in this relationship is one-sided. Sabrina is completely aware of virtually all of Mami's major issues, hopes, dreams, etc etc. She knows why Mami likes her, she knows what Mami likes about her, etcetera.
But on Mami's end?
Sabrina knew about her. Okay.
Backstory: Sabrina showed up in an alley with no memory.
General desires: improve the world.
Why she likes me: ??? apparently she does though... she... said I make every day brighter?
Issues: ??? gets frustrated with villains... wants to save people? Hard on herself?
What she enjoys: cooking, apparently. Basically everything we've done together...?
Meanwhile, behind the scenes we're juggling =all of the things=. We have yuge issues, they're just easily survivable ones. The list goes on.
The only reasons she's even aware that we like her at all are our reactions to & surrounding the date and our having told her we enjoy being around her during the damn metabomb. But... we've never said a word about why.
And largely as a result of that, and partially just because we've not done anything that could reasonably be expected to disabuse her of the notion, she honestly believes we've done far more for her than she has for us -- and isn't she right, from her perspective? We filled a void in her heart and saved her from an inevitable and painful death. She understands that. All she did that she can see is giving us shelter. And so...
So I went and thought about how to address this. Explaining why we like her is a concept that's floated around my archives since the metabomb. But we needed more if we wanted to get anywhere meaningful. Mami believes, among other things, that we've done more for her than she has for us. She fears, even if she's perhaps starting to hope it's irrational, that we'll leave her. And she simply does not understand the level of attachment Sabrina has to her -- she's seen signs of it, and heard partial declarations of it, but for the life of her she can't see why it would be that way: and so she fears, and it tears her apart. All of that has to be addressed. Furthermore, we need to give her reason to understand why we feel she's done as much for us as we have for her. Because fuck letting her develop an inferiority complex alongside her abandonment trauma -- that'd screw her up even more.
So, a few months back, right before Rionna showed up, in response to that Firnpost I've been quoting here, I hit on this concept:
What's Mami done for us? How has Mami as a character changed the thread?
And it was a fucking gold mine.
I looked at how Sabrina has developed as a character. I looked at our responses as a thread to Mami and other topics over time. And the basic line that I settled on was this:
When this quest started, it was about a mission.
It's come to be as much about our friends.
Why?
Because of who they are, what they do, and how those things influence us.
The OP even says it. "Tabula Rasa." But are we that now? No, and we haven't been in a long time. Sabrina has developed attachments, personality... and most of all, happiness. Honestly one could say she's developed a life, where once there was only a mission.
And I'll tell you now: those developments aren't the result of a single-minded mission to improve the lives of meguca planetwide.
When this thread started out, it wasn't expecting Sabrina to end up dating a character. Hell, I don't think it was expecting to enjoy reading about Sabrina's interactions with anyone nearly as much as we do. But it has happened anyway, and it has happened not because we as a thread -- or as a character -- set out to achieve it, not because we were aware it was possible, and definitely not because we were aware it was something we wanted before we stumbled into it. I mean, otherwise we would have gone looking for it.
No. We have these things because the characters we all so deeply enjoy reading exposed us to the fact that these were things we could have as part of this story: fluff, jokes, slice-of-life scenes... I don't think anybody ever predicted that we'd have this based on the OP. I'm not from the crowd that came from witch quest or Sayaka quest, so maybe I'm wrong about that... But I know it's true for me, and I doubt anyone predicted the full extent.
And no character has had anywhere near the impact on us in this manner as has Mami.
Fact of the matter is, we've long since stopped spending time with her just for her sake. At this point, it's as much because we honestly enjoy having her in the story with Sabrina.
These are the things which need to be explained to Mami: at length, in detail, and leaving as little room for doubt as possible. That Sabrina is drastically happier than she would be if not for Mami (and behind the scenes, we enjoy this story vastly more than we might otherwise). That that is something incredible which she has done for us. That we do not want to leave her, because she is someone we do not want to lose.
... And most of all, that even if at some point we might have been okay with repairing her life and then leaving her, we no longer want that. More than that, in fact: we fear losing her.
That regarding what she's done for us, it is because of her that we have any of this. Because we wouldn't have thought to seek it out! We had no idea that it was something we wanted until she showed us that we did.
These are all truths, derived as much from the thread as from Sabrina herself. I expect that there is much to be gained in adequately expressing them, intertwined. And so I've written.
We were okay with being alone, once. Who here now shall say that Sabrina, or the thread, would find that ending acceptable? And who here shall say amongst us that this change has not been for the better?
The vote (should be in word limit):
[X] Go home, cuddle, make sure Mami has her homework covered if she has any.
[X] Explain to Mami, at length:
-[X] What you feel she's done for you.
-[X] That in the process of doing it for you, you've been brought to understand that you enjoy being with her.
-[X] That at the start of all of this, you might have been okay with just making sure she got a happy ending, but that you have come to actively want to be around her: not just for her sake, but for your own happiness.
--[X] That this is what she has done for you: she showed you what it was to have a life, to have happiness of your own. You'd thought it was okay if you ended up alone in the end... You don't want to be alone.
--[X] Do it without making her freak out, or, worse, think that we're going to leave her. No repeats of the metabomb fiasco.
The blueprint (how it could be done):
[] Hug Mami.
[] The pendant, and the things she said earlier, about what you've done for her... it got you thinking.
[] You understand what you've done for her, and the importance of it -- well, she said it. "I'm not alone anymore." You filled a void in her heart, right?
[] It's an awful lot, you know that... And yet, you do feel that you're "even", as far as these things go, you've just been having trouble expressing exactly why. You've leaned on easy things, like thanking her for taking you in, and simply saying that she's done a lot for you, but... None of it has really sufficed to convey what you want to convey. You wanted her to understand what she's done for you, and the magnitude of it, what she's done for you that you honestly believe it equivalent to what you've done for her. But you could never find the words, until today.
[] You... said something once to her? That... you hadn't known the two of you could be friends?
-[] See, it wasn't really accurate, when you said that, because you'd always known that she could have friends.
--[] But... You? You were just here to fix things. Do the right stuff, get everyone happy endings, put a stop to all the horribleness. Improve the lives of everyone around you.
---[] You'd never thought that you could have a life, too.
----[] It started with small things. Just... having someone around who didn't mind your silliness. The portal theme. Mechazilla. But... it grew. You realized that you could have her as a friend... and you realized that you wanted to have her as a friend. To know her better, to be around her, not because it was part of fixing things but because you wanted it. Because you enjoyed it. Because she makes you happy, and you've found that you want that. If she hadn't beaten you to the punch, you would have asked her out sooner or later, because you have a life now, and you want her in it.
-----[] And... it's because of her, that you found any of this. You... there's been an image burned into your head, since the very start -- of you, alone, wandering the universe in the distant future, and being asked whether you didn't want to stop. Whether you didn't want to settle in a place with others you were friends with. And you... you said no, in that image. And back then... you thought it was something of a success story, if a little sad. At the time, it had meant to you that you'd fixed things -- after all, you being alone forever was mostly fine, right?
------[] Hands on her shoulders, look her right in her eyes. Earnest, honest, soft: That is what she has done for you. Perhaps it's been less visible than what you've done for her, but it has been no less life-changing: your happiness matters. You matter. You understand why she still has some worries about you leaving -- it'd be hard not to, after what she's been through -- but the fact is that someone would have to force you to do it, so long as she'll have you. Because you have a life now, and you want her in it.
-------[] Quietly: you don't want to be alone.
[] Cleanse everything ever just in case.
Now, I wanna make some stuff clear. I've tried, above, to lay out some of the logic behind this, but what was written first was the blueprint, and it's there where the most meaning is. When I visualize social it is inevitably in the form of statements. I've been historically shy, introverted, etc: this is something I do in real life, too. Thus, the blueprint is the purest conceptualization of the vote, designed by running the concept of "get Mami to understand what she's done for us and that we *want* to have her with us" against my mental model of her, same as I use in MQ. If you're looking for meaning in this post, go there first. Everything else is me trying to explain why that is the way it is, or trying to cram a summary down into a word limit.
And, lastly, to everyone suggesting an early night of doing little... No. Do this instead. I promise you'll enjoy it more.
In the end, all of Mami's issues circle around her loneliness and her fear of loneliness. Perceived inadequacies have grown, and continue to grow and froth amongst them: that she has never done enough for us, that she's "broken," that sort of thing.
At the end of the day, much of the understanding in this relationship is one-sided. Sabrina is completely aware of virtually all of Mami's major issues, hopes, dreams, etc etc. She knows why Mami likes her, she knows what Mami likes about her, etcetera.
But on Mami's end?
Sabrina knew about her. Okay.
Backstory: Sabrina showed up in an alley with no memory.
General desires: improve the world.
Why she likes me: ??? apparently she does though... she... said I make every day brighter?
Issues: ??? gets frustrated with villains... wants to save people? Hard on herself?
What she enjoys: cooking, apparently. Basically everything we've done together...?
Meanwhile, behind the scenes we're juggling =all of the things=. We have yuge issues, they're just easily survivable ones. The list goes on.
The only reasons she's even aware that we like her at all are our reactions to & surrounding the date and our having told her we enjoy being around her during the damn metabomb. But... we've never said a word about why.
And largely as a result of that, and partially just because we've not done anything that could reasonably be expected to disabuse her of the notion, she honestly believes we've done far more for her than she has for us -- and isn't she right, from her perspective? We filled a void in her heart and saved her from an inevitable and painful death. She understands that. All she did that she can see is giving us shelter. And so...
So I went and thought about how to address this. Explaining why we like her is a concept that's floated around my archives since the metabomb. But we needed more if we wanted to get anywhere meaningful. Mami believes, among other things, that we've done more for her than she has for us. She fears, even if she's perhaps starting to hope it's irrational, that we'll leave her. And she simply does not understand the level of attachment Sabrina has to her -- she's seen signs of it, and heard partial declarations of it, but for the life of her she can't see why it would be that way: and so she fears, and it tears her apart. All of that has to be addressed. Furthermore, we need to give her reason to understand why we feel she's done as much for us as we have for her. Because fuck letting her develop an inferiority complex alongside her abandonment trauma -- that'd screw her up even more.
So, a few months back, right before Rionna showed up, in response to that Firnpost I've been quoting here, I hit on this concept:
What's Mami done for us? How has Mami as a character changed the thread?
And it was a fucking gold mine.
I looked at how Sabrina has developed as a character. I looked at our responses as a thread to Mami and other topics over time. And the basic line that I settled on was this:
When this quest started, it was about a mission.
It's come to be as much about our friends.
Why?
Because of who they are, what they do, and how those things influence us.
The OP even says it. "Tabula Rasa." But are we that now? No, and we haven't been in a long time. Sabrina has developed attachments, personality... and most of all, happiness. Honestly one could say she's developed a life, where once there was only a mission.
And I'll tell you now: those developments aren't the result of a single-minded mission to improve the lives of meguca planetwide.
When this thread started out, it wasn't expecting Sabrina to end up dating a character. Hell, I don't think it was expecting to enjoy reading about Sabrina's interactions with anyone nearly as much as we do. But it has happened anyway, and it has happened not because we as a thread -- or as a character -- set out to achieve it, not because we were aware it was possible, and definitely not because we were aware it was something we wanted before we stumbled into it. I mean, otherwise we would have gone looking for it.
No. We have these things because the characters we all so deeply enjoy reading exposed us to the fact that these were things we could have as part of this story: fluff, jokes, slice-of-life scenes... I don't think anybody ever predicted that we'd have this based on the OP. I'm not from the crowd that came from witch quest or Sayaka quest, so maybe I'm wrong about that... But I know it's true for me, and I doubt anyone predicted the full extent.
And no character has had anywhere near the impact on us in this manner as has Mami.
Fact of the matter is, we've long since stopped spending time with her just for her sake. At this point, it's as much because we honestly enjoy having her in the story with Sabrina.
These are the things which need to be explained to Mami: at length, in detail, and leaving as little room for doubt as possible. That Sabrina is drastically happier than she would be if not for Mami (and behind the scenes, we enjoy this story vastly more than we might otherwise). That that is something incredible which she has done for us. That we do not want to leave her, because she is someone we do not want to lose.
... And most of all, that even if at some point we might have been okay with repairing her life and then leaving her, we no longer want that. More than that, in fact: we fear losing her.
That regarding what she's done for us, it is because of her that we have any of this. Because we wouldn't have thought to seek it out! We had no idea that it was something we wanted until she showed us that we did.
These are all truths, derived as much from the thread as from Sabrina herself. I expect that there is much to be gained in adequately expressing them, intertwined. And so I've written.
We were okay with being alone, once. Who here now shall say that Sabrina, or the thread, would find that ending acceptable? And who here shall say amongst us that this change has not been for the better?
The vote (should be in word limit):
[X] Go home, cuddle, make sure Mami has her homework covered if she has any.
[X] Explain to Mami, at length:
-[X] What you feel she's done for you.
-[X] That in the process of doing it for you, you've been brought to understand that you enjoy being with her.
-[X] That at the start of all of this, you might have been okay with just making sure she got a happy ending, but that you have come to actively want to be around her: not just for her sake, but for your own happiness.
--[X] That this is what she has done for you: she showed you what it was to have a life, to have happiness of your own. You'd thought it was okay if you ended up alone in the end... You don't want to be alone.
--[X] Do it without making her freak out, or, worse, think that we're going to leave her. No repeats of the metabomb fiasco.
The blueprint (how it could be done):
[] Hug Mami.
[] The pendant, and the things she said earlier, about what you've done for her... it got you thinking.
[] You understand what you've done for her, and the importance of it -- well, she said it. "I'm not alone anymore." You filled a void in her heart, right?
[] It's an awful lot, you know that... And yet, you do feel that you're "even", as far as these things go, you've just been having trouble expressing exactly why. You've leaned on easy things, like thanking her for taking you in, and simply saying that she's done a lot for you, but... None of it has really sufficed to convey what you want to convey. You wanted her to understand what she's done for you, and the magnitude of it, what she's done for you that you honestly believe it equivalent to what you've done for her. But you could never find the words, until today.
[] You... said something once to her? That... you hadn't known the two of you could be friends?
-[] See, it wasn't really accurate, when you said that, because you'd always known that she could have friends.
--[] But... You? You were just here to fix things. Do the right stuff, get everyone happy endings, put a stop to all the horribleness. Improve the lives of everyone around you.
---[] You'd never thought that you could have a life, too.
----[] It started with small things. Just... having someone around who didn't mind your silliness. The portal theme. Mechazilla. But... it grew. You realized that you could have her as a friend... and you realized that you wanted to have her as a friend. To know her better, to be around her, not because it was part of fixing things but because you wanted it. Because you enjoyed it. Because she makes you happy, and you've found that you want that. If she hadn't beaten you to the punch, you would have asked her out sooner or later, because you have a life now, and you want her in it.
-----[] And... it's because of her, that you found any of this. You... there's been an image burned into your head, since the very start -- of you, alone, wandering the universe in the distant future, and being asked whether you didn't want to stop. Whether you didn't want to settle in a place with others you were friends with. And you... you said no, in that image. And back then... you thought it was something of a success story, if a little sad. At the time, it had meant to you that you'd fixed things -- after all, you being alone forever was mostly fine, right?
------[] Hands on her shoulders, look her right in her eyes. Earnest, honest, soft: That is what she has done for you. Perhaps it's been less visible than what you've done for her, but it has been no less life-changing: your happiness matters. You matter. You understand why she still has some worries about you leaving -- it'd be hard not to, after what she's been through -- but the fact is that someone would have to force you to do it, so long as she'll have you. Because you have a life now, and you want her in it.
-------[] Quietly: you don't want to be alone.
[] Cleanse everything ever just in case.
Now, I wanna make some stuff clear. I've tried, above, to lay out some of the logic behind this, but what was written first was the blueprint, and it's there where the most meaning is. When I visualize social it is inevitably in the form of statements. I've been historically shy, introverted, etc: this is something I do in real life, too. Thus, the blueprint is the purest conceptualization of the vote, designed by running the concept of "get Mami to understand what she's done for us and that we *want* to have her with us" against my mental model of her, same as I use in MQ. If you're looking for meaning in this post, go there first. Everything else is me trying to explain why that is the way it is, or trying to cram a summary down into a word limit.
And, lastly, to everyone suggesting an early night of doing little... No. Do this instead. I promise you'll enjoy it more.
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Made extensive edits to previous post. Vote and blueprint unchanged.
I should note: I talked with @Firnagzen while I was working on this. As I said, the blueprint came first, and I still have no idea how to directly convert that to a "normal" vote without a shitload of loss. Firn's said he'll happily draw on it for content, although that statement is his to confirm.
I'm well aware that this isn't what might traditionally be thought of as "fluff." It's more hurt-comfort sort of themes.
But. I can promise you something.
At the end of this? Mami's reactions?
They'll be worth more than all the fluff we've had since the metabomb. Because they will be real progress towards Mami being happier.
And, well...
Happy Mamis Date Sabrinas.
I should note: I talked with @Firnagzen while I was working on this. As I said, the blueprint came first, and I still have no idea how to directly convert that to a "normal" vote without a shitload of loss. Firn's said he'll happily draw on it for content, although that statement is his to confirm.
I'm well aware that this isn't what might traditionally be thought of as "fluff." It's more hurt-comfort sort of themes.
But. I can promise you something.
At the end of this? Mami's reactions?
They'll be worth more than all the fluff we've had since the metabomb. Because they will be real progress towards Mami being happier.
And, well...
Happy Mamis Date Sabrinas.
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I have never been more shocked or horrified in my life. How could you have forgotten Best Cheese Imouto Nagisa.
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And wow. Kaizuki that is....
Well you have my vote that's for sure.
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Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
You know what's the real sad thing. We really can't precisely name her. Not all the time, at least...
We didn't ask Rionnnna how her name is spelled.
She does kill without leaving traces in the corpse...
... How. Why. When. How could you.
... I need to ponder.
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- Not the asylum anymore
- Pronouns
- She/Her
[X] Kaizuki
Because fuck, the catgirl hit the nail on the head. Mami helped show Sabrina how to be human. Without her, Brina'd be very different from what she is now.
Now, personally, I may disagree on whether or not Sabrina plans to stop, even eons from now. But doing it alone? Fuck that noise.
Because fuck, the catgirl hit the nail on the head. Mami helped show Sabrina how to be human. Without her, Brina'd be very different from what she is now.
Now, personally, I may disagree on whether or not Sabrina plans to stop, even eons from now. But doing it alone? Fuck that noise.
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- Borneo
[X]Kaizuki
You hit me in the heart, now take my vote dammit!
That was a beautiful analysis thing.
You hit me in the heart, now take my vote dammit!
That was a beautiful analysis thing.
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- Illinois
Stop? Hell no. Never. Retirement is for mortals.
But alone? Alone can screw the hell off.
...
I have an RP scheduled for an hour from now, so... I won't be around a ton for a while. Just for the record.