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Redshirt Army said:
I like Kinematics general idea, but don't think we should start with melee only - we're garbage at it, we know we're garbage at it, and it comes off as pandering. Still, multiple rounds, stepping up each time, seems decent. The way I'd do it is by limiting the amount of grief we use each time, since that's our major limit. So in the first round, maybe a few basketballs worth of compressed grief, and we just shape and move it, no witchy transformation. That still lets us shield, net, entangle, trip, homing bullet, and air jump, so we might last a minute or two before getting shanked. Depending on how that goes, we can up the amount and start doing flechette swarms and wings of grief, still more and go mobile oppression fortress, or go for the gold with a grief-powered Gundam while turning the surrounding 100 meter radius into pure magical napalm and belting out power metal.
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:V

Fresh Meat \o/

(Why yes, I did go back through all of PMAS to find Redshirt's first post, all for the sole purpose of sweet, sweet revenge!/shitposting. Why do you ask?)
 
Aris Katsaris said:
No, it doesn't work that one just makes the 'correct' arguments, and convinces everyone. That's rather arrogant. At best you might have convinced *some*.

In the end most people weren't convinced even by the end and Sabrina's actions were decided by Firn, not by the vote. This is definitely his prerogative as an author, but don't talk as if people just took too long to be convinced to gem Riona, or that a more timely argument would have convinced us all sooner, when the majority of us were never convinced to gem her even up to the end.

I've no idea what Rionna was meant to be. She effectively came, spoke about how evil she is, and we were supposed to just fight her, job done, monster of the week type of deal? Or were we were supposed to have a morality debate, but with a specific predetermined outcome about the proper action to take? We were supposed to be empathic to people EXCEPT where Rionna is concerned? We were supposed to act, not react, EXCEPT that we were supposed to just react to Riona coming over and her bwahahaing at us out of the blue? We were supposed to care about her shades' wellbeing or weren't we?

I don't understand anything about what the author intended here, or what ethical issues he wants us to freely discuss and which he doesn't. As such I don't think I'll be discussing ethics in this thread again, at least not until I have a much clearer understanding about which topics are permissible and which aren't.
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I mishandled her introduction severely. I've been coming down hard -and vetoing discussions- because I'm trying to course-correct for it. And I'm trying to fix the arguments she caused, and both of those combined mean that I'm getting Rionna out of the story, OoC and IC, as soon as possible. I don't mind discussions, I mind the sheer level of acrimony she generated. With that said, stop trying to reignite the argument about Rionna. No, I won't publicly share what Rionna was "for". I may attempt to introduce something similar with better framing.

And once again with that said - welcome, @Loktarogar, @UmbraofChaos. As you can see, you've come in at a slightly volatile time in the thread - Rionna has been the subject of intense arguments, and I've been trying to usher her off. Keep that in mind.

@angelofwhim Again, I'm removing Rionna on GM's perogative because she lit the thread on fire. Do not attempt to tar the entire thread for that decision.
 
Torgamous said:
This is what Octavia was born to do.
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"So," Sayaka says. "What do you think?"

"I think she's..." Sabrina cuts herself off. "I think, uh, this wasn't what I was expecting when you said you had something to show me. But it's, it's very nice. Wh-where did you find her? Find it."

Oktavia von Seckendorff sits -- stands? -- behind Sayaka, conducting a symphony, larger-than-life. The song sounds distinctly upbeat for something coming out of a Witch, but then again, it is Sayaka. Probably.

"Okay," Sayaka says. She scratches the back of her head. "It's a funny story."

"Tell me?"

"So, you know, I was thinking -- I really wanted to find a musician, right? Magic is pretty cool, it has a bunch of downsides in the fine print, but it's magic. Totally worth it. It lets us do things that are literally out of, I dunno, anime! And I was thinking, what's more anime than having a literal musical score for your battles? You could even coordinate based on that, it would be -- the ultimate in conducting!"

"Right."

"And I like Kwjibo -- I mean, Kyousuke -- but he's not a Magical Girl yet, so I can't lean on him."

"Yet?"

"Ask Oriko. Anyways, no musical Magical Girls for me to copy, so I had to get creative. You would not believe the power combination it took to grow my own pet Witch to specifications. It's actually really nice for a horrible creature born of curses. I feel like we're already besties, even though she's only been around for like, a day. Speaking of which, can you check me for Witch Kisses and so on?"

"Um, you're clean." Sabrina pulls a face. "I think. Just so I'm sure, you're telling me that you wanted a musical score for your battles, so you created a Witch from the ground up, and it just happens to be... this Witch?"

"Well, yeah?" Sayaka replies. "What's so special about this Witch? She's just mine."

"Right. Yours."

Sabrina stares at the Witch for well over a minute.

"What's wrong, Sabrina?" Sayaka asks.

"It's nothing. Uhhhh." Gosh dang it, fuck, how do I get her to not show this to anyone?

"It doesn't look like nothing. Is there something you want to tell me, Sabrina?"

"...you mean, besides the usual-?"

Sayaka smirks.

"...you're messing with me, aren't you?"

"Well... the real long story is, I was thinking about dark secrets, so I 'hypothetically' told my family about the Magical Girl system and asked them what secret twist ending they would expect to see, if this was all part of a story. And then I got to work thinking about power combinations. I found a way to copy my own power at one point, pretty useless because no-one else can use it, but it made a great way to look at my own soul-"

"Sayaka, no more hugs for you, for like, a month."

"What? For pranking you?"

"No, for doing grief science without the griefbender in the room."

"For taking the joy of discovery away from you?"

"For doing science without proper safety protocols!"

"No, I think you're just mad that I pranked you and did science without you. What do you think, Oktavia?"

An unintelligible noise.

"Yeah, I know I'm talking to myself. But I'm right, aren't I?"

More noise.

"See? Two against one, Sabrina. You're outvoted."

"I'm never going to hear the end of this, am I?"
 
Raiseth said:
But weren't all the antagonists of Tart Magica from Britain? :V
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The French had an issue with the Brits. Big news, that. :V

Jeanne's amazing, but there must be some great Brits and Irishwomen around. We just need to give them a chance, rather than judging them all over a few disreputable members of their nations.
 
I personally really want to see the fifty year old meguca. If I remember right it was also said she was maybe a healer which makes things even more interesting. On the other hand she seems like a pretty bitter and pragmatic person which befits her age and position but I'm still so curious!

Really I want to know how she can keep going on. While witches never stop being a danger even a 20 year old meguca would be a frighteningly experienced individual. But by that point you've seen friends come and go, had to put some down yourself, and gone through the revelations of how much of a twisted mess your situation is. How do you go on after decades of that? How does she cope? Does she just not care at all anymore?
 
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UmbraofChaos said:
I personally really want to see the fifty year old meguca. If I remember right it was also said she was maybe a healer which makes things even more interesting. On the other hand she seems like a pretty bitter and pragmatic person which befits her age and position but I'm still so curious!

Really I want to know how she can keep going on. While witches never stop being a danger even a 20 year old meguca would be a frighteningly experienced individual. But by that point you've seen friends come and go, had to put some down yourself, and gone through the revelations of how much of a twisted mess your situation is. How do you go on after decades of that? How does she cope? Does she just not care at all anymore?
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I could imagine Sabrina, cautious but optimistic, meeting this woman, constantly reminding herself to not call her Old Lady Catherine, telling her what her powers can do...

And Catherine's...

"Where the fuck were you fourty years ago?"

I expect her to be sane enough to accept our help, but our Clear Seed deal is gonna look more like a retirement plan than anything else, to someone who's already sortied and dealt with with the problems of being meguca her whole life.

Inb4 she hugs Sabrina and kisses her on top of the head as thanks for the free cleansing and turns out to be super jovial and nice and not a total grump like I think she supposedly is. It's just that Nadia visited at the wrong time. :V

Nadia: *Furiously re-writes Nice Lady Catherine's entry*
 
Onmur said:
Inb4 she hugs Sabrina and kisses her on top of the head as thanks for the free cleansing and turns out to be super jovial and nice and not a total grump like I think she supposedly is. It's just that Nadia visited at the wrong time. :V

Nadia: *Furiously re-writes Nice Lady Catherine's entry*
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Please no. Do you want to Witch Nadia by making her realize all her news are bad info? :V
 
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Onmur said:
I could imagine Sabrina, cautious but optimistic, meeting this woman, constantly reminding herself to not call her Old Lady Catherine, telling her what her powers can do...

And Catherine's...

"Where the fuck were you fourty years ago?"

I expect her to be sane enough to accept our help, but our Clear Seed deal is gonna look more like a retirement plan than anything else, to someone who's already sortied and dealt with with the problems of being meguca her whole life.

Inb4 she hugs Sabrina and kisses her on top of the head as thanks for the free cleansing and turns out to be super jovial and nice and not a total grump like I think she supposedly is. It's just that Nadia visited at the wrong time. :V

Nadia: *Furiously re-writes Nice Lady Catherine's entry*
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If she aged normally, she either didn't know or didn't care that Megucaing can put a cap on that.
Ignorance seems unlikely, considering she survived for so long, then that could mean she's a traditionalist.
Cue her refusing our help, because "it upsets the natural order of things" or something. :V
Cue Sabrina tearing her hair out in frustration.
Cue Mumihugs.
Quod erat demonstrandum: Everything leads to Mumihugs.
( I felt appropriate to remind you of this fact, Onmur, because I've recently found out you weren't always supporting the BrinaMumi ship.
Remember that this ship is all-encompassing, inescapable, inevitable, inexorable and ineluctable.
We'll be watching you. )
 
I did'nt support Mami shipping either! I thought, given Mami's reaction to the the various bombs it would be decidedly unhealthy.

She got better somewhat especially with expanding her circle of friends... though once the ball got rolling I jumped on.

...Actually what did cause the tip over point to occur?

... I *really* don't want to re-read the entire story thread *again*
 
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