4D Spaghetti Twirl. Just spiral it in.

You know how I mentioned structural integrity in my word-wall last page? That's what I'm referring to, right there: Is this a thing we are allowed to do, or do most objects dislike that sort of non-translation transformation in the 4th dimension?

If they don't, or if they have definable and workable rules about how they should be 'bent' or 'twisted' or whatever, cool. Let's science up that shit; solves a lot of problems. Not the volume-related ones, and we'd have to be careful about applying the whole "moving objects bigger than our radius by relying on their structural integrity" thing if we've warped them along the 4th dimension as well, but most problems, solved.

But we do need to actually determine that's the case, yeah?

... SCIENCE!

Edit for clarity because "do most objects object to" is exactly the sort of fun English phrase that's perfectly reasonable, but really rather unnecessary.
 
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I'd like to point out that just as you can stack an infinite number of 2D layers without gaining any thickness in a 3D space, it follows that you can stack an infinite number of 3D hyperplanes in 4-space without using up any amount of 4-volume.
 
I'd like to point out that just as you can stack an infinite number of 2D layers without gaining any thickness in a 3D space, it follows that you can stack an infinite number of 3D hyperplanes in 4-space without using up any amount of 4-volume.
They're probably not actually infinitely thin, and I suspect you'd find force interaction between 3D layers if you push them too close together, even though that means everything should disintegrate in a shower of radiation, because that's how people would think of it intuitively.
 
Random thought: If we take the theory that we are a dewitched Walpurgisnacht , and since Walpy is a conglomerate Witch, then does that mean that we are the equivalent of an Arrancar created from a Adjuchas/Vasto Lordes class Menos? I don't know if anyone else had this thought.
 
Random thought: If we take the theory that we are a dewitched Walpurgisnacht , and since Walpy is a conglomerate Witch, then does that mean that we are the equivalent of an Arrancar created from a Adjuchas/Vasto Lordes class Menos? I don't know if anyone else had this thought.
I thought we were a dewitched Ultimate Kriemhild Gretchen.
 
I'd like to remind everyone that Sabrina exists in PMMM not earth. Meguca and their wishes can and will have significant effects on politics. Syria might have a benevolent dictator. North Korea might have a puppet ruler controlled by a secret cabal of magical girls.
North Korea might have a puppet ruler controlled by a secret cabal of magical girls.

... this would be hilarious. It would be great to see Sabrina be half expecting our world's politics and then have to react to-

... wait. So. What you're saying is that clearly North Korea may be ruled by another quest protagonist who's being piloted by a secret cabal of magical girls because one of them wished for democracy. And they got it in the form of an SV Quest. With all the local meguca in the country as the 'players', the voters, the votecrafters. And now they're caught between fighting Witches, desperately trying to run a country reasonably, desperately trying to run a person reasonably, abusing their new power for the lolz and/or personal gain, and trying to make sure they don't have a winning vote that threatens to nuke Tokyo.

... North Korea better have a really good QM. And maybe some mods.

... PMAS and North Korea-Quest; the crossover we never knew we needed.
 
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Hm... I looked through their thread history and found what I think your referring too. That wasn't quite the same as the impression I got from that post, which would be occurring quite separate from the events of canon PMMM, but it does look interesting.

Not that hilarious. They have to get grief seeds somehow and don't have our advantages.

I imagine that having to manage the grief seed resources within the cabal would be part of the point of such a quest. As would such stuff as personal relations within and without and of course trying to keep the mundane side from boiling over into collapse or foreign invasion.
 
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All the abject suffering in North Korea would probably make it a fertile feeding ground for witches and farming familiars.

EDIT: In other words, if there is a shadowy cabal of magical girls running things over there, they're probably not very nice.
 
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Not that hilarious. They have to get grief seeds somehow and don't have our advantages.

Spoil my fun, mwargh. }=o)

But in all seriousness, no, yeah, as was shown about the whole "no the nuclear reactors are not liable to Suddenly without great prodding" thing, you're quite right that it's rather something we should be keeping in mind, that the state of the world in PMMM and by extension PMAS may not have quite the same shape we're expecting. Curiously enough, while Sabrina has loads of the accurate knowledge about canon story elements and characters, and of course all the thread's random assortment of skills and knowledge, the place her intel is most likely to completely fail is probably the world stage, so to speak. Places where the broad strokes of things could be radically different, while preserving the details, or vice versa. Or at least, yeah that's definitely something to keep in mind unless or until it's determined that whatever the Incubators do to preserve the status quo by extension keeps the shape of events roughly to what we'd expect on our end. Otherwise, well yeah, the possibility of actually accidentally faceplanting our way into just-as/even-more dystopian meguca secret oligarchies without planning for it is a bit not good.
 
the place her intel is most likely to completely fail is probably the world stage, so to speak. Places where the broad strokes of things could be radically different, while preserving the details, or vice versa.
We've already encountered a minor example of this already, regarding the state of the idol industry.
 
We've already encountered a minor example of this already, regarding the state of the idol industry.

Ah, there's the second one. I feel like there was a third time our intel was weird about something unexpected, or more than that, but I can't recall where. Nuclear power, the idol industry, and... hm. Not sure. Well, at the least, guess we probably shouldn't try and help with anyone's history homework without checking our in-universe sources first, then.
 
I'd like to remind everyone that Sabrina exists in PMMM not earth. Meguca and their wishes can and will have significant effects on politics. Syria might have a benevolent dictator. North Korea might have a puppet ruler controlled by a secret cabal of magical girls.
I could almost guarantee you that if Urobutchi wrote an extension of Puella Magi in the Middle East, all problems would stem from very old Magical Girls who are the local branch of the Knights Templar and never stopped waging a crusade for the Holy Land.
 
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Y'know Sayaka can use ribbons too, right? Not that there's any reason she has to be the one who does so, I'm just pointing it out; either way it would be useful if Mami teaches her how to do that trick too.

And I just had an idea relating to using Mami's ribbons to exten the range of soulgems:

First: I don't know whether soulgems have problems when trying to / can control a body that's not their own or not; but if, for any reason, we come across a meguca who lost a body *cough*GOTOHELLSOUJUS*cough* and we want to give them a temporary body while recreating their original, we could use ribbons to connect their soulgems to those bodies (how long do Mami's ribbons last?).

Tho, I don't know if it would be necessary or even a good idea in the case of the victims of the craziesSoujus, because that of the body dysphoria and the traumas.
 
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